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Still need another first down

Finally. Good job offense. Good job.

Our defense has stepped up time and again this year. Rookies, third stringers. They're the real MVP.

Hartyyyyyyyyyyy

I stand corrected.

Might?

That last shot wasn't conclusive so they won't overturn. We needed that timeout.

Can Josh still catch Howell for the turnover crown?

Josh gave it away again. Unbelievable.

Josh is single-handedly killing us

We're the dumbest ***** dumb team that can't stop doing dumb *****

Frustrating time for a review. Oh well, we can get a FG here anyway as long as Josh doesn't throw it to the other team again.

Our stupid team is so stupid sometimes. We just can't get out of our own way.

Yes that would be the obvious reasons part. But as others pointed out, Watt has a spraine MCL which I completely blanked on.

I want the 2 seed for obvious reasons, but I'd almost rather get to play a banged up Phins team on the road in Rd 1 than deal with that hard-to-kill Steelers defense at home.

I did only a quick browse through the thread and so may have missed it but has anyone tracked how many of Kincaid's snaps and catches were two TE sets or with Kincaid split out in the slot? I feel like the 11.5 personnel thing might be a failure at this point even though it's incredibly early for that. If so, the people who criticized the pick might end up being right even if Kincaid turns out to be really good (I think he will) given Knox is locked up. This goes to the point about how he's been used and his lackluster YAC and YPC.

Hell no. This team hasn't proven anything, and the upside of a big win and homefield until AFC championship game is better than the downside of an injury that might put the nail in the coffin of an otherwise snakebitten season. This team desperately needs something really good to happen. Let's aim for that and hope for the best.

Diggs is a magnate for conspiracy theories. Josh/McD are trying to send Diggs a message that they can win without him?

Let's be real for a second and admit he doesn't deserve it based on his play. He has one signature win (Miami). He got his OC fired. We might still miss the playoffs despire currently ranking 4th in total points allowed. This wasn't even one of his top 3 seasons so far. I'd put last year's elbow injury season ahead of this one. Cam won MVP because Carolina won 15 games. Hurtz won 14. Lamar is going to win 13 or 14. But Purdy and Dak deserve it over Josh too. Go look at Dak's advanced passing stats. Ontgt% Dak is 2nd, Josh is 9th. Dak is 1st in bad throw%. These guys have way less turnovers which are a heck of lot more important than rushing TDs that you would've scored anyway giving it to your RB. Josh is a phenomenal player. He'll get his MVP in some other year. You can keep your fake MVP award that isn't deserved.

If this was any other team, a big RB/FB would be getting those carries. We're using Josh because we have no choice. I guess you could say that helps make his MVP case but I think it's goosed his TD numbers. He shouldn't get MVP because we're using him as our lead RB inside five yards.

This is about whether or not Josh deserved MVP, not who didn't do their job at the end of the game. We scored 16 vs. Jets, 20 vs. Jags, 18 vs. Bengals, 22 vs. Broncos...we almost lost that stupid Chargers game. We probably should've lost to the Chiefs and Giants given our lack of offensive punch. The total TD thing is a little misleading too. We started out the season not wanting to subject Josh to so many plays where he might get crushed on designed runs, leading to stingers, etc., which could've jeapardized our season last game. Thankfully not. Then Damien Harris went down and it eventually became obvious we needed to change up some things. It's not like Josh scored 15 rushing TDs from 20 yards out. Mots of those were inside the 5 because Cook is small and Murray is cooked. He's still a great player and easily one of the best in the L, but this isn't what an MVP season looks like imo. If anything, I think our defense deserves more credit given all the injuries.

Dawkins is somewhat surprising but nice to see. Cook deserved this. Amazing how many doubters he had right from the start. I think Taron Johnson should make it every year.

Josh didn't even make it as an alternate for the probowl. MVP talk has been ridiculous for a while now. His stats have overrated his overall play this season imo. Too many close games lost where he just didn't have it for long stretches.

Josh has absolutely killed me in betting this year. I'm out on him winning MVP on that alone.

I think Josh has basically zero chance. He's going to lead the league in turnovers and we're in all likelihood going to sneak in as a 7th seed. But more to the point, Josh doesn't deserve MVP. Like it or not, his hand-picked OC got fired mid-season. Our signature win of the year (Dallas) happened because of our run game and defense. Meanwhile, Josh has had some high profile bad games/plays. He might be a top 5 player in the league this year, but I don't think MVP is very realistic.