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Care to revise your statement now? Yep, this game means nothing.

I posted this same topic back in July, and this board made fun of me. Just shows you the stupidity of many of the posters here:

For reference, September 7, 2003 was the day Tom Brady became a superstar. Buffalo that day caused the Patriots to become a dynasty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlTQcHmIE6Y

We need to pick for OL or WR more.

This is a bizarre statement to make in response to the thread. Insecure about your masculinity?

Video documentary mentioned in the article OP posted: I got in trouble at the Buffalo Bills message board back in the day for posting a pic of the dildo.

Thanks for your support and welcome aboard! I agree with the points you made. And, yeah, I hate Gary Anderson more than anyone else. He potentially set the Bills back big time.

Over at the NFL forums, they are saying Cleveland is making room for Dez Bryant or Terrell Owens to fill the number two spot, since Josh Gordon may not be ready. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000945164/comments/browns-trade-corey-coleman-to-bills-for-draft-pick

Josh Allen has been compared a lot to Ben Roethlisberger, since they are both big, mobile QB's. Roethlisberger was drafted 11th overall, whereas Allen was drafted higher, at 7th. Roethlisberger also came from an inferior college compared to Allen (Miami of Ohio vs. Wyoming, respectively). This arguably makes Allen the better QB prospect. In 2004 in his rookie season, Roethlisberger started Week 3 for the injured Tommie Maddox, and won 13 consecutive games, to lead Pittsburgh to a 15-1 season (he didn't play in Week 17 at the Buffalo Bills since they had already clinched homefield in the AFC). He also won the divisional game, making it 14 straight wins for him, and then finally lost the AFC Championship game to New England. The year before, Pittsburgh finished 6-10. It was clear that Roethlisberger was the reason they became so good. They even beat 14-2 New England that year and 13-3 Philadelphia in the regular season. Let us take a lesson from Pittsburgh: Josh Allen needs to be starting sooner than later. (BTW, as an aside, as mentioned above, Pittsburgh beat Buffalo in a close game in Week 17, 29-24. The Bills finished 9-7 and were ranked by ESPN (was it 538?) a few years ago as the greatest NFL team ever not to make the playoffs. They used advanced statistical methods to come to this conclusion. That's how good of a team were were back then. Also, I was going bonkers in 2004 since the Bills didn't move up to draft Roethlisberger. I wanted him above Eli and Phillip. We were drafting 13th and couldn't manage to maneuver ahead of Pittsburgh at 11. Instead we moved up to draft JP Losman later in the 1st round. This has haunted the Bills ever since.)

I still have a loser mentality due to our performance in the mid-80's (1982-87) and during the drought And also losing 20 straight times to the Dullphins from 1970-79. It will take dominating the Patriots for 10-15 years to eliminate that. Or winning a SB. (Or a Sabres Stanley Cup.)

Agreed. I have been waiting since Kelly retired in 1996 for this. 21 years without a franchise QB. Josh Allen is the real deal and the QB in this draft. He is the best QB the NFL has had since Peyton Manning. LOL. We weren't supposed to make the playoffs last year, but we did. This current OL is fine. Shady will have at least a 1,500 yard rushing season. Agreed. I have not seen the Bills this hyped for a player since Jim Kelly arrived in 1986. Agreed. Get on the Josh Allen bandwagon now, or don't bother later on. Go cheer for the Cheatriots or Dullphins.

Don't forget we had a chance to draft Mahomes too last year.

The entire nation did not want Buffalo to return to the SB. In fact, Jay Leno of the Tonight Show joked at the beginning of the season this was the time where all of the other 29 teams get to battle it out to see who plays Buffalo in the SB. Also, we did not know who the NFC rep would be. SF and Dallas were good, but no one could have predicted them in the SB. The Bills, however, were the clear favorites in the AFC.

No. I do realize it is a pre-season game, but how can you not get stoked for national TV? The nation will be watching and is going to be judging us. We need to make an impression. And how often are the Bills on national TV? Enjoy it while you can.

I just realized we are on national TV week 3 in the pre-season at home. We are the only game at this time slot and featured on Fox. That means the entire nation will be watchng us. The fans will be in a complete frenzy. This is also pre-season Week 3, when the starters usually play for the entire first half and usually the first series of the 2nd half. Cincinnati should start Andy Dalton, Preston Brown, and Cordy Glenn. Maybe even Tyler Boyd. Do Dalton and Boyd getting standing ovations from the Bills fans? I am so pumped for this game. My palms are already sweating. We haven't had a home national TV game since early in the 2016 season. I have not been so excited for a pre-season game ever. This is the chance to prove to the nation we are contenders and that last year was not a fluke. If we do well this game, there is a better chance to be flexed later on in the season. The pressure is on Josh Allen to perform (how can he not be the starter?) This is like our Super Bowl. Are preseason home games still subject to blackout?

I guarantee you we did. I just have this feeling. He is the best QB to come out of the draft since Peyton Manning.

Plus it is rumored Mario didn't study or learn Rex's new system and purposely played bad.

Jim Kelly, before he retired in 1997, threatened to go play for our rival Pittsburgh.

Yeah, but intricate details of stuff that happened in the NFL in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's are not readily as available. There weren't tons of publications about sports like there are now. The Civil War was a huge event and has been studied buy lots of historians. I couldn't find a whole lot about the Bennett-Bell-Dickerson trade in 1987, but I can find tons of stuff about the Sammy Watkins trade, for example. Maybe, but there were only 8 seconds left and the Bills had no more time outs after the Thurman run. It would have had to been a pass and the guy would have had to get out of bounds quickly. With their offense, the Bills should have never been in that position in the first place. We handled the Giants easily in the regular season at Giants Stadium.

Yep, back then, the Bills used to own the NFL draft. We shocked the world on an annual basis and were the talk of the draft. For example, in 2002, we gave up our first pick on draft day and traded for Drew Bledsoe. Cincy wanted him too, but were only willing to give up a 2nd. I am surprised New England traded him to us, a rival in their own division. In 2003, we shocked the world again by drafting Willis McGahee by taking a big chance on a badly injured player who had a huge upside. And in 2004, we again shocked the world by trading up into the first round to draft JP Losman to be our franchise QB. People were saying Losman to Evans would be the new Kelly to Reed. I also read a comment on another board recently that Buffalo owned the off season this year. We had four of the top five news stories this offseason (not saying I agree with the poster, but it is good to see the Bills being relevant nationally--any publicity is good publicity): 1. LeSean McCoy story 2. Ruben Foster story 3. Josh Allen tweets 4. Richie Incognito meltdown 5. Zay Jones tantrum He was just trying to pit the Buffalo fans in their place and teach them a lesson by his threats to move the team. When I was a kid, I was raised by my paternal grandparents, who always threatened to send me back to my father's to live if they felt I acted up, since I was not their kid or responsibility. They were just trying to put me in my place. So same thing with Ralph..

TC used to begin around July 5 in the 80's. The first game of the season was the Sunday before Labor Day, before school began. Also, we need more threads in this dead period. I am trying to contribute a little to relieve others of the boredom. I am from the old BBMB, and there were a lot more threads there, even during this time.

Don't remind us of that fateful 1996 game, which turned out to be Kelly's and Hull's last game ever as QB and C. A sad day for all. I hate Natrone Means. LOL! I wanted to add the year, but then I would have to go back and update the post each year. I had never thought of the copyright rule either! Shhh...don't tell the mods. :-) Thanks for your support. I agree now about what you (and the others) said about Kelly.

Ok, I admit he more than made up for it. Part of me just wishes he wouldn't have held out to begin with. Then he could have possibly been a better QB than Marino and Elway. Buffalo may not have been so bad then in the mid-80's. We had a very talented team.

Ok, thank you. I remember the latter part re Butler. And he stole a lot of our players too, like John Kidd. But, he signed a contract before the pre-season with Buffalo. No one forced his hand. He was drafted by trhe Bills, who owned his rights. He was not free to work for someone else, unless he chose not to report for a year, upon which he would have to re-enter the draft. But he signed, then chose to play games and sandbag. That is what cowards do. Why didn't he just not report then and not sign the contract??

All good points. I guess I was angry at the time, as a kid, that a long-time Buffalo favorite left for the Seahawks, even though he was still good as a player. His leaving, as well as Knox's and Cribbs', helped us to become a joke of team in the mid-80's, until 1988.Two consecutive 2-14 seasons in 1984 and 1985. Almost all of our home games were blacked out. I had to listen to them on the radio. Everybody laughed at us. My father had to apologize that we came from Buffalo to the admissions officer when I went on a college tour in 1987. That is when I developed my life-long inferiority complex.