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9.5 sacks as a situational player isn't good?

Vernon's salary is higher than Zeitler's.

I wasn't disputing there could be a work stoppage. I was disputing that claim that it affected trade talks.

His name was floated in a trade for Odell Beckham. That's basically it.

The Browns gain no cap space for trading him, so it would be stupid to give him away for a 5th and 7th.

They did. He declined. He's decent, but he slacked off a lot last year. Lacked effort and gave up a lot.

He wasn't worth near the salary he was getting. Paid like an All-Pro, played average.

Zeitler is better than Saffold.

The work stoppage part is 100% made up. What kind of evidence do you have for that claim?

Except he is usually right.

Cutting him saves no money at all, so it would be stupid. He is a top 5 guard in the league, so if they trade him, it better be for a good return.

Duke is more of a WR at this point anyway, and can be a 3rd. He just signed an extension last year.

Hunt won't put Chubb on the shelf. He'll be suspended for a bit anyway. Now, especially with Duke, they can run like crazy and keep a fresh back. Also, Duke can be a WR at this point too, and mix in some runs.

Except Conner had almost the same type of year as Bell once Bell was gone. Bell is better, but I don't think he's worth the baggage.

He was decent in Cleveland but he was hurt a lot. Once he stayed healthy, he was pretty solid. Small school kid who took a bit to develop.

"The ring nonsense." ? Brees was garbage the 1st 3 years of his career. So bad they drafted Philip Rivers to replace him. He has been great since, but isn't close to Brady. The Saints went 3 years sub 500 recently. The next closest QB has 4 rings. Brady has 6. And I know it's a team sport, but the entire team has changed 3 times over and they still win. The only lasting piece is Brady.

Please enlighten us to which QB is better than Brady.

I thought he did decent in Cleveland last year. I'm pretty sure he started a couple games towards the end of the year because of injuries and he wasn't spectacular but he was solid. I thought we'd keep him as depth.

No team gives up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for a LB.

He broke the record for rookie TD passes. Manning and Wilson had 26.

He had a crap game, along with the rest of the team. It happens. How many times did Peyton Manning choke in the playoffs? Is he a bad QB? Where were you when luck threw 39 TDs this year?

I was pointing out that he wouldn't have to fit in the QB room. Just cut him.

Cleveland only got a 2nd, and I believe Osweiler made more. And gave back a late 4th. Why would Buffalo get more?

Cleveland cut Osweiler.