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threw the sink at him, touch, took the hit and threw for a first down. nice play by Allen

tv announcer said Reilly

gale gilbert's son looks solid. great throw there

good first half team, very good

lets give the 2nd team o-line a little love. gave up a sack on the first play, really settled in after in PB and RB

murphy's law!! Ivory better watch out

pay per view battle royale with Gronk later this year?

that was an easy 62 yds

marcus murphy?

dirty Harry!

I like how Murphy runs with shiftiness and violence, Always positive yards.

poyer almost had the pick

nice rhythm drive. KB looks healthy

The Bills will have 80-100 million in cap space next year. A lot of dead cap space comes off the books next season. Those hoping for this move think he is both a trade and the equivalent to a FA 'big slash for next year'

so you are one of those types that likes to argue typos, instead of points, got it. let's talk facts. The Bills have a better chance of landing Mack than Donald. By every measure. Both are game changing. Edited PS - on record, would rather have Mack.

I believe the Bills have a better chance at Mack than this scenario for all the reasons I've posted elsewhere. Darnold is going nowhere, but Mack is in play.

I also don't like Holmes, even if you disagree with me on Dupre. Holmes is on the wrong side of 30 and did not step up at all last year when our WR were dealt away or went down with injury. He looked lost and terrible. Andre Holmes had a Season stat line of 13-120-3 which is a pathetic line for a veteran on a depleted corps. New Era, do you really think Dupre is worse than 13-120-3 over a season??? Streater was 18-191-2 in his last full year with SF. Holmes and Streater have produced 45-437-8 combined in the last two NFL seasons, yet suck up two spots on this roster. That is one avg year for Chris Hogan as a WR3-WR4 on NE, or even a WR3-4 on a run first Bills team. Chris Hogan 2018 (NE): 34-439-5 2017 (NE): 38-680-4 2016 (BU): 36-450-2 Brandon Lafell, 31, is a stratosphere above these two fools: 2018 (CIN): 52-548-3 2017 (CIN): 64-862-6 2016 (NE): 37-515-0 If I had my way at OBD, I'd cut Streater and Holmes tomorrow, sign Brandon Lafell, and open up a roster spot for a guy like Siran Neal or Malachi Dupre.

3 is the tradition. Would Buffalo have made it to 4 SB in a row without QB3 Gale Gilbert? No you say? The Chargers, yes the lowly Chargers, the Bills of the West, made it to the very next SB with Stan freaking Humphires at QB and Gale Gilbert at QB3 after he left Buffalo. Peterman is our Gilbert, or Alex Van Pelt. A guy with the brains to be an NFL QB, but not the physical ability to be an NFL QB. I always wondered what Gilbert, AVP or Edwards could contribute to a QB room if they don't have the skills to be an NFL QB, but have the brains to be an NFL QB, and aren't asked to be the starter. Poor AVP had to be the starter... At best Allen is Kelly, AJ is Frank Reich, and Peterman is Glibert. At best. But yes you carry 3 QB.

hi all, I now have 4 tickets to practice tomorrow at New Era Field. I will be at Darien Lake Amusement Park in Darien, NY (between Buffalo and Rochester) tomorrow around 1-2 pm. Visit Darien Lake during the day, ride roller coasters, then see the roller coaster ride at QB at night! I can meet anyone in the park, or at parking if needed as long as it's before 5 pm. I also wanted to note that the Mt Read Tops in Greece NY (a suburb of Rochester) still has some tickets. (585) 663-4400. It's just off I390, take first exit to I390 from I90, then take Vintage Road Exit, head south on Mt Read, then on the right about 1/2 mile after Wegmans. PM me, I got them for Sven, but he seems hooked up now. They are yours for free if you are willing to go to Darien.

I'm in Rochester, and heading to Darien Lake tomorrow. if I could get them at Mount Read I would have helped out. I'm sorry....

I'm happy we have a healthy debate here. I respect your opinions. I know my opinion is pie in the sky. But this is the time to do a move like this. The money works out, the draft picks are there, the need is real, and the player likes Buffalo. Name the last time a superstar NFL player on the ascendancy held out in Buffalo?? Happened to be what we need? Mentioned another player stole his roster spot in Buffalo? I'll wait. The good karma will only last so long. Opposed to your thought, I think McBeane showed big balls in their 1 yr tenure. Cap wise they were strapped for FA this year. Bad contracts, trades, payouts, and cutting players hamstrung this team in FA this off season. People seem to forget the Dareus contract, Watkins, Taylor etc... Look at last season. Matthews went down. The FO knew a WR was needed, and they knew Benjamin was available. Maybe KB wasn't the answer but they made the move to address an issue mid-season to get a starting #1 or #2 in the NFL. That is not a timid FO. Look at the draft. Did McBean go for the safe option in the other Josh? No. They went up for the big armed kid who would like to play here. Will JA be a stud? I'll wait and see. But they went up for who they wanted in the face of the pundits. That is moxy. When Edmunds fell, did they sit on their hands? No, they moved up aggressively and got Edmunds. Not one, but two aggressive moves in the first round, in year one of the McBeane draft marriage. They were bankrupt as far as FA goes and still got Ivory, Davis, Star and Murphy. Maybe only one or two players produce, but not bad for a limited budget. Then with the little cash they had they pivoted and addressed OC and OT with Bodine and Newhouse. Miller was sitting all the while in the garage to help at OG. Who was playing C when the Bengals beat the Ravens and put Buffalo into the playoffs? That would be Bodine. No one seems to remember that Bodine was the C for the team that helped put Buffalo into the playoffs. He also was the C for a very possible day 1 starting QB in McCarron. That is a strategic move. If Groy beats him out, aok, but if that happens Bodine may be the best backup C in the league, not a bad way to pivot with no $$$ and address an unpredictable retirement at OC. The team was aggressive in trades last year during the season, did what they could with almost no cap space bringing in legitimate NFL players, and were very aggressive in the draft. I have to disagree with you in principle. I don't think this FO is gun shy at all. But I still agree it is a long shot. IMO it is worth taking. Hell if it takes bringing Whaley in for one day to snake charm his way into getting Mack, then do it. I think he is still being paid.

old and slow... not too worried. Who stretches the field for New England? I know TB is not a deep ball gambler, but really, facing a team with any speed on defense, who gets chunk plays? I think this led to NE losing the SB last year. I don't see much chunk play ability outside of Gronk and maybe White. Maybe Sony Michael helps as an RB threat, but his knees are a legitimate concern is relied on too heavily. Then again NE plays a platoon at RB.

I agree Dupre was underwhelming in college, but name a good or even great LSU QB? Not exactly an offensive powerhouse. I'm an admitted fanboy of Dupre. I see on the depth chart he has fewer opportunities than others to prove his worth. Even fewer than Proehl. I just have a gut feeling like I did with Hogan and Goodwin than he can be a contributor. I'm not talking a 70-1000-6, but a respectable 45-700-4 type line with Big Ben, Rogers or Rivers. A 'move' receiver who has some height and some speed. I also have a gut feeling he is one of the very few WRs on this team that can and will catch Allen's heat on full display. I think Allen is dialing it back mentally. Allen will need a guy that can and will corral anything. I see a lot of soft pass WRs on this team, who will go out and catch the Allen bullet? Green Bay would probably like to still have him in camp. The Bills did well swooping in and grabbing him when they did. I just like him, I hope he shows out in pre-season games. Maybe he is the next Da'rick Rogers, but I think he needs a decent QB with a live arm and some opportunity. I want to see him and Allen together in the pre-season. I think they compliment each other. I could be totally wrong.

I disagree. Your two most likely starting QBs are on a rookie deal and a friendly late 2 year F/A deal. White, Edmunds, Phillips and Milano (yes I think Edmunds and Phillips will be studs) are also all on rookie contracts. Hyde and Poyer aren't backbreaking deals. Look at how good the secondary did without a pass rush, and a gimpy but effective EJ Gaines. Generating regular pressure on the QB makes all of the above on defense better. Do you want to wait until you have an 80-100 million deal on a QB to try to bring in a Mack? Draft and hope to get lucky? Nope. Dare to dream big. Make the defense a nightmare to face. Take pressure off a new OC and scheme, and 2-3 QBs fighting to be relevant starters. Tell me Shady won't fight to the last to play hard for a team that did him right contractually, kept quiet this off season, and has the Bills within 7 points in any game..... strike now, the iron is hot. Dare to go big.

I'd trade next year's first and the 2nd in 2020, or next years 2nd and 1st in 2020 for a chance to trade for Mack. If the Raiders want Hughes, Murphy or Lawson do it. If you are the Raiders you get a 1st, 2nd, player x to start at DE, potential cap relief and avoid an ugly hold out/ cap situation. You save face and can rebuild the D with the picks. If you are the Bills you get a premier pass rusher before his prime and before he hits F/A, who loves Buffalo, while you are flush with cash. Both teams win. If the Raiders don't bite, keep your cap fluid next year, roll over as much money as possible and give Mack an 'offer he can't refuse'. He is worth every penny. Mack knows and loves Buffalo. No cultural shift that many other super star players experience coming to Buffalo. Heck Mack is here during his hold out. Mack is on the upswing to the prime of his career, unlike Mario who had peaked and was going into decline, or even Reggie White going to Green Bay. This is a once in a 'Blue Moon' opportunity. Also there is absolutely no effort issues with Mack. Would Mack like to play with ascending stars like Edmunds, Hyde and White, for a defensive minded head coach who led Keuchly and Davis? I'm guessing yes. Mack is an ELITE pass rusher, something the Bills woefully need, and could push this defense into amazing places. Buffalo will be top 5-10 in cap space next year, allowing them to back up a dump truck of cash to make him happy long term on an extension with up front money and lessen his cap hit over terms of his contract. Has there ever been a contract where the signing bonus was worth as much or more than the contract? Players want guaranteed money, do it. Shady didn't want to be in Buffalo, but the Bills did him right with a generous package to keep him happy, and he has been terrific. Imagine doing that for an ascending super star who wants to be here? A LB corps of Mack, Edmunds and Milano looks terrific for the next 5 years. All young, all with their prime ahead of them, playing for a HC that loves his LBs. Not to mention Edmunds and Milano are on their rookie contracts.... When Mack's contract expires, Edmunds will only be @25 and in HIS prime. Change gears dump the money on Edmunds, rinse and repeat to draft the best Edge player again within those 5 years. To me it is a non-issue. You make it happen. "I woke up this morning, with a blue moon in my eyes"