MrEpsYtown

I know this isn’t directed to me, and again I am not trying to argumentative, just kind of presenting my thought process on this, knowing full well it isn’t going to happen. So are you talking win/loss record here? If so you are 100% correct, he has a losing record as HC in both the pros and college. But he’d be coming as an OC, so to me his overall record isn’t significant in this case. I look at it has he coached guys like Case Keenum, Johnny Football, obviously Mahomes, Davis Webb, Baker Mayfield and they all put up some ridiculous numbers in his system. The guy can coach offense and that is what I would want him to do here. Let McDermott coach the defense. Based on what I just watched, I think it’s clear you have to try to outscore KC, and if that’s the goal, Kliff is the guy imo. Our Jedi knight QB could use a little slice of the dark side of the force. Forget about complimentary football, let’s beat everyone by 70 with our unicorn.

I mean I will say this, I am not sure he is a good head coach, but he certainly knows the offense side of the game he took the Cardinals to the playoffs in 2021 despite Murray and Hopkins being in and out of the lineup, no weapons, no offensive line. And I've said, I am happy he is a douchebag. That is what this team needs. A little shot of that attitude to make things happen and get results. Not feel-good growth mindset and empathy garbage. And it isn't worth arguing about because it isn't going to happen. But that's what I would do if I had the choice.

To me, that guy is Zac Robinson. Played in the league and is coming from the Rams staff. My issue is with a defensive head coach coach, the guy they hire becomes the CEO of the offense. I'd want a guy with more experience in that role and that's why I like Kingsbury or Arthur Smith even though their recent work has been less than stellar.

I don't see how. But McDermott was very complimentary of Smiley. He seems to love the yes men and scapegoats.

What did that poor dog ever do to u!!!

I did think he was out, but I've kind of changed my mind. I do not think they are going to be willing to let him go until they know for sure that he can't play anymore. So I think they take the hit in 2024 and then if he's bad they cut him with a minimum dead cap in 2025.

I believe it is two third-rounders edit: maybe I am wrong and it is only promotion to HC?

I'm a high school HC and my QB asked if we could implement the clap....and let's just say it was a no.

I like Kliff, but he needs to take a coordinator position with a team with an elite QB to re-build his value before he gets HC consideration again. He was not ready and doesn't care about defense.

I agree. They do have some skill guys as well with Dotson, McLaurin, and Robinson and two great defensive tackles. They need to rebuild the back seven of the defense and fix their offensive line. They could even let Sam Howell get killed for a year and sit their shiny new QB, especially if it winds up being Drake Maye.

Yep exactly! And that's the issue!

I hope they interview: Joe Brady Kliff Kingsbury Kellen Moore Arthur Smith Zac Robinson Brian Johnson Mike LaFluer Kingsbury would be my top choice. If you want change, you take a demanding prick and put him in the building. He is not a yes man.

So next Bills head coach? Former panther!

I’d add Brandon Aiyuk to the trade list. He is set to play on the 14 million 5th year option. Nots sure they will move him, but you can’t pay everyone and they are going to have to allocate some money to the defense.

Yeah it's funny people so hung up on Humphrey for some reason. If I am redoing that draft, I am taking Landon Dickerson at the end of the first, Nico Collins in the 2nd, Amon-Ra St. Brown in the third, Talanoa Hufanga in the fifth, and Trey Smith in the 6th. Bam! Now that’s hindsight.

Kyle Dugger. Something like 4 years, 45 million…11.25 per maybe? They were all over him pre draft and spent all that scouting time at that D2 school. I’d pay more for Xavier McKinney. He can play either strong or free and can play single high, two high. He tackles, makes plays and still has upside. He’s also 3 years younger than Dugger. I’d also sign up for Gardner-Johnson. The Bills showed a lot of interest in him pre draft. Drafted Dawson Knox about 10 picks before he went. But he is a great fit and similar to Hyde in terms of skill set.

To be fair, they were able to go get guys like McDuffie because the haul they got for the Tyreek trade. But the point is valid. They have done a really great job of drafting talent and finding value in people that maybe the league was missing out on. 2023 is meh except Rice, 2021 they found Bolton, Humphrey and Trey Smith and didn’t have a first round pick. 2022 they crushed with the extra draft capital. McDuffie, Karlaftis, Pacheco, and guys like Chenal, Williams, Watson, Moore and Cook. They do a great job. I don’t get hung up on Humphrey thing, the way a lot of people do, he was the third center off the board. But to me McDuffie was the one that got away.

In fairness, it was really Shakir who replaced McKenzie in the lineup with about the same percentage of snap counts with slightly more production but Shakir was way more efficient. Harty only played like 13 percent of the offensive snaps, which was disappointing and a clear bust. Sherfield was a liability and on the field too much. Combined they played about 46 percent of the snaps.

So who is really a number 1 receiver these days? Like a true, true 1? Jefferson Lamb Chase Hill St. Brown Like what are guys like Adams, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Devonta Smith, Nacua, Nico Collins, Mike Evans, Deebo, Aiyuk etc. Diggs? And I am being honest here. The call for a 1 or 2 receiver I get it, but where’s the line? Because true #1s to me are pretty few and far between.

That’s crazy. The funny thing is that ages for guys coming out of college are going to fluctuate so much with all the transfer portal stuff.

Yes I agree. Wilkins is a monster and I think Holland is a dude, but I was not impressed with their defense either.

I mean he’s almost as young as Tremaine. I kid I kid

Oliver was also handled by Nick Allegretti for 13 plays after Thuney got hurt. So that is definitely on him. But to me Washington/McDermott did not dial up any sort of twists or games on the line to take advantage of a historically awful left tackle and a RT who struggled all year. The tackles were the weak link and the Bills did not attack them. I have to say I thought the gameplan, or at least what it appeared to be, outside rush to contain Mahomes, stymied any pass rush they might get.

Agreed! I did not want to be too much of a homer!

I think it is a fair question, I think it’s obvious his talent is off the charts, he just played for a complete idiot loser coach. I’m based because I have always loved his game. He can do everything those other guys can do. His 2021 season is pretty much what earned him that extension.