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I would like to see what some of the new coaches can do with him. Sometimes it takes a different voice. Obviously he has been a massive disappointment and a weird fit, but he was overdrafted and it always kind of felt like it wasn't going to work.

Good fit. Of the released guys he has taken over my favorite spot over Eddie Jackson and Rayshawn Jenkins. Any of those three guys would fit and are natural free safeties. I am guessing Simmons will be expensive.

Quality 1 tech. I am happy they are looking into the released guys. With so many free agents leaving us this year, there is a chance they can work the comp pick stuff for next year.

I think Rapp helps and I am sure that money is much lower. I'll wait and see what they do at the other spot. On the surface, he seems like a box safety, but he played a bunch in the Hyde high safety role and he looked pretty good doing it. Rapp just needs to learn to wrap!

Probably trying to hide that they will draft a punter.

I am not a big Anderson guy. He does have some ability and upside. To me, he is only around because he passed through waivers and was on the practice squad. If Nick Broeker had gotten through waivers he would have taken that spot. He has some interesting traits, but I am not sure I throw that dude in for any significant minutes for a team like the Bills. JMO. Edit: I didn’t recall that he made the 53 man so I stand corrected!

I see both sides. On the surface, it is slightly rich for a backup IOL. Ideally, those guys are young guys making nothing. If they held on to Jack Anderson or Nick Broeker, they would be minimum guys who are fine as depth. At the same time, I think Edwards is a premier backup because he could easily start for a lot of teams, has a ton of experience, and is still young. He also got a decent amount of burn as that heavy H back. You also have two starting OL in Torrence and Brown who make nothing, so it makes sense to spend some money on a guy who was reliable last year and premier depth.

I had failed high-pedigree guys like CJ Henderson and Kristian Fulton on my short list for that. Young guys who were highly touted corners and for whatever reason it just hasn't worked out should maybe consider a move to safety.

There are a few I can recall. The biggest ones are probably Drew Brees to the Saints, Peyton Manning to the Broncos and Reggie White to the Packers. Brady to the Bucs and Deion Sanders to the Niners are up there as well imo. Doug Williams with the Skins was a big one as well. Nick Foles with the Eagles was huge for them and directly resulted in a championship. Kurt Warner signing with the cardinals propelled them to the Super Bowl, and even though they did not win, they almost had no business being there and he took them over the top. Dwight Freeney, Alex Mack and Mohamed Sanu were huge pieces during Atlanta’s 28-3 debacle. Again they did not win, but those were huge signings. The Bengals signing of Trey Hendrickson was big and propelled their defens einto a Super Bowl spot. Once again, they did not win. Tyrann Mathieu was big for the Chiefs a few years ago. Michael Bennett with the Seahawks signed from the Bucs. Mike Vrabel became a key cog for the Patriots and was signed as a UFA from the Steelers. Shannon Sharpe and Rod Woodson to the Ravens. Charles Woodson to the Packers. Is free agency overrated and overhyped? Yes. But it is an opportunity to improve your roster. Only one team gets to win the championship, so the majority of the moves made next week will not lead to Super Bowls.

He may be the one. FS and he makes plays and tackles. He played for Joe Danna in Jacksonville and is a Manny Diaz Miami guy. I love the way he plays.

I think it's a possibility. I would disagree with it to an extent, but the money savings is significant. I think they should run it back with the same offensive line, something that is very rare today. I would extend Morse and spread out the hit if I can.

I have always been a big Bates guy, so I am sorry to see him go. I think he has talent. But the bottom line is that the Bills acquired guys who are better than him and the Bears have wanted him for a while. This compensation is fair and quite good, to be honest. I do not think that Alec Anderson ever amounts to anything, but I suppose he is an interesting body. I do think they try to re-sign David Edwards and as others have mentioned Brian Allen was released as was Mason Cole and Cody Whitehair. In addition, cheap guys who can play guard and center like the other Connor McGovern, Evan Brown, Lucas Patrick, Dan Feeney are all free agents. The Bills will be fine in terms of OL depth. Some hot takes in this thread are interesting. If I never have to hear the name Creed Humphrey again I will be extremely happy. I think he is a very good player. He is a top center in the NFL right now. I don't care what PFF says, I would take Tyler Linderbaum and Frank Ragnow over him, but after that, it's probably Humphrey. He is not the greatest center of all time. He has his ups and downs and goes through games in which he can't even get the snap back but he is surrounded by two all-pro guards and a QB who makes everyone look better. Again, very good player, like top 5 in the league. But I just wish we could move on as a fanbase. Mitch Morse had a really good last two years and has been playing some of his best football. The notion that he is made of glass and has a brain of mush is just silly at this point. He started 20 games this year and had zero issues that we know of. Contrary to popular belief, he is not old. He is 32 years old this April and in tremendous shape. Do I think there is a chance the Bills release him? Sure because you save 8.5 million with just 3 million of dead cap and there are a ton of centers on the market. But I think there is a better chance they extend him as at his physical shape he can probably play another 4-5 years. I think they should strive for continuity there and keep those starters together for at least another year. The fact that were willing to move Bates tells me the plan is to bring Morse back as they let go of the guy they were grooming to replace him. Finally, I wish Bates well. He will likely be the Bears starter at center as they finally get their guy and the rest of the O-line is mostly set for them. I like the trade because it gives a good soldier a chance to start elsewhere. It also adds to the pile of compensation the Bills could use to move around the draft board.

Love him. He's an animal. I don't think they do it though.

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That would be pretty awesome, but I do agree that if they take a big swing it's going to be along the defensive line. Other spots can be filled mid-tier and through the draft.

More or less the same, but younger and hopefully faster, which I think will do wonders for the roster.

Unless I am looking in the wrong place, this is what spotrac says for post-June 1: 2024 Dead Cap: $6,234,918 2025 Dead Cap: $4,134,9182024 Cap Savings: $10,208,819 If Tre is cut today it's: 2024 Dead Cap: $10,369,8362024 Cap Savings: $6,073,901 Douglas is 2024 Cap Savings: $9,973,529, no dead cap. So White is slightly more but incurs a dead cap that can be spread over two years.

I don't think so. Plus you have a significant dead money hit. Douglas is a clean nearly 10 million with no dead money. He's gone imo. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tredavious-white-21768/

I don't agree with it, but I always felt Douglas was going to be a pure rental. The cap savings are clean with no dead money and are significant. The only way he makes sense coming back is if Tre is gone. They aren't going to pay two corners, plus a nickel big money. You have to spread the cap out around the team.

yeah, I don't get what happened to him. He was a blue chipper. I suppose my idea is to see if the 25-year-old former blue-chip prospect can play safety before we take him out back.

Yeah I am not sure those guys in the expensive bracket are realistic, but wanted to present tiers. That salary is excessive for a safety, but I am interested to see what happens. I agree that this team will not be paying that.

I think they sign a safety. I think safeties fall in tiers. All my opinions... Best Fits who will be expensive: Kamren Curl Xavier McKinney These guys are both great fits for what we do in terms of scheme. Curl played in Ron Rivera's defense, and McKinney played a ton as a single high and 2 high safety guy. McKinney is my favorite and reminds me most of Hyde. He can play all over the secondary and has incredible instincts. Curl has similar traits. Box safety will be expensive: Kyle Dugger They loved him pre-draft, and I could see them going down that well again. He is very versatile but hasn't been used in New England much as a high safety. He is also about to turn 28 and will be expensive, so I am not sure how young they are getting at safety here as compared to Curl and McKinney who are turning 25 soon. Solid Realistic add: Geno Stone...OP did a great job with the description, so I won't add, but I think Stone makes a ton of sense. Older Playmaker just released and is realistic: Eddie Jackson. I think he is a great fit for what we do defensively. There would be no dropoff from Hyde, the only question would be injury stuff. Young guy who would be cheap and potentially interesting: Ashtyn Davis - was drafted for Gregg Williams Tampa 2 style defense, after Saleh came in Davis became an afterthought. Jeremy Chinn - is more of a box, big nickel guy who hasn't had much of a chance to play safety. Corner conversions: CJ Henderson Kristian Fulton Both these guys were pretty high pedigree corners, who, for whatever reason seemed to flame out. I think they could consider a move to safety rather than toiling as a backup corner on someone's depth chart. Ultimately, they probably just re-sign Taylor Rapp.

I think the released guy (no comp pick impact) who makes a ton of sense is Eddie Jackson. Playmaker who has had injury issues the last couple of years. he is a perfect fit as a FS in this defense. Chicago plays many similar coverage concepts. Honestly doesn't seem like he has lost a. step, it's more of an injury issue. The other guy who makes some level of sense is Lawrence Guy, a dude who hs some flexibility and would add a non-comp pick affecting body to the DL room.

Nice stuff. The safeties they chose are pretty disappointing considering what will be out there, but overall a good job.