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Allen will start this year for absolute damn sure but I would like the euphoria to wear off for Allen. I don't question his brain, heart or body but New Era stadium is freaking nuts I want him to tame his emotions before he is expected to take over. Forget next year, we want Allen to come in and start for the next 20 years, screw short term I don't care about 2018.

Bodine, Groy, Miller and Duccasse is not great by any means, but they are serviceable and I don't think OL is as dire as many believe, I mean sure we could use some help but I wouldn't mortgage the farm for one.

I also believe this season is a throw away for sure! I think you start AJ McCarron 9-10 games and sit Josh Allen's keister on the bench! The goal is to stall and buy time, bring Allen along slowly.

Lack of mobility, character concerns, injury concerns, what you see is what you get, limited potential. I think Rosen will have a great career as a journeyman QB. Allen on the other hand could be special although many assume his floor is much lower. Rosen reminds me so much of Peterman.

It's really hard to say because we might move up. We are looking at late 3rd early 4th round players when there is a chance we move to the top of the 3rd and perhaps some mid to late 2nd round players are available. I'd imagine it all depends if somebody really special falls down and in that case you got to move up. How often do late 3rd round picks or later actually pan out anyways? Give me Kirk, Brown or Washington. Walking away with a stud QB, LB and WR is good enough for me. Anytime you draft 3 above average starters in a draft you did a hell of a job. Fill in the other holes with UDFAs and June 1st cuts.

The thing that's funny is fans had no problem mocking Allen #1 to the Browns but take offense to us taking him at #7. I cannot think of one mock draft I read where Allen was drafted outside of the top 10. In just about every draft I read it was split between Allen and Darnold at #1.

No doubt, I like Allen too, he is a Buffalo guy and I think he'll be great. I also believe Allen is a much better prospect than Mahomes is to be completely honest but if Allen does indeed bust and Mahomes does go on to be great, there is going to **** molecules stuck to the air.

He's had 10 sacks over 2 years, I know that QB hurries count but don't kid yourself, he is also going to be 30. You have to ask yourself, how much longer does this guy have? 15 sacks over 3 years, I think Lawson can match that production and he is 10 years younger with more upside.

I knew that but McD was, life isn't fair though. If Mahomes turns into Brett Favre 2.0 and Allen turns into Paxton Lynch, McD will not be able to persevere that shitstorm.

I think Mahomes will be an All-Pro, Andy Reid knows QBs and I liked Mahomes coming out. Tre is a shutdown corner and I like Edmunds so I think we added two studs but what it comes down to is Allen vs Mahomes. I like Allen but passing on Mahomes was incredibly risky and could end up getting McD and Beane fired if Mahomes turns into a star and Allen busts.

In an ideal world we trade neither of them. If Shaq starts dominating in camp though and we got Murphy playing well, sure I'd move Hughes for a 2019 pick. Anything less than a 2nd for Hughes or Lawson, why bother? It's like throwing talent away for nothing.

Weak.

Hughes is old and we could likely fetch a mid/late 2nd for him, he is declining. Shaq on the other hand would fetch a 4th or 5th but has tons of room for growth.

I'd rather move Hughes than Shaq.

How often do 2nd round picks succeed hit or miss? 50% maybe? So let's say half our 2nd round picks succeeded, so that leaves you with one hit and a chance you lose that player to free agency in 4 years. If we strike gold with Josh Allen, he will be here for 15 years, same can't be said for the WR, OL, DL or LB we would have taken in RD2. For Edmunds we gave up #65 to move up for a top 10 talent. How often do 3rd round picks materialize? At the end of the day we got two difference makers at our two biggest weaknesses and we still have a 3rd, 4th and two 5ths to add more talent, we are actually sitting pretty right now.

Josey Jewell the LB from Iowa would be a good pick. Milano, Edmunds and Jewell would !@#$ some **** up.

I'd be happy if every pick we own for the rest of the draft went towards OL and WR. I don't think we're that bad off but we have a lot invested into Allen, at least he has McCoy, Clay and Benjamin but I wouldn't mind a burner like James Washington from Oklahoma State in the mix.

That would be amazing if it happened that way.

LB and QB are squared away, is there any OL or WR help we can get for Allen to make his job easier?

A+ Awesome awesome awesome talent at need areas. Never gave much thought to Edmunds before because I thought we never would even get the opportunity to draft him, I expected Allen though, very happy.

I'm OK with people not liking the pick, because that's a person's opinion and everyone is entitled to their own personal beliefs and I respect that BUT when people start talking like clairvoyant know-it-alls I want to scream. I love Allen, not like, love him but do I know he'll be great? No, and I won't state it or word it in such a way that implies that. I don't see what the negativity does however, even if you are convinced deep down in your soul, what's the point of lamenting over it for the next 5 years??? And I don't think that's fair to Allen to start the guy out in your doghouse when he hasn't even thrown a single pass.

I can't express how happy I am Josh Allen is our guy, I kept it hidden because I knew it was a potential shitstorm to not gush over Rosen like 99% of fans here seemed to think. His arm is !@#$ing awesome, he is going to win a lot of people over from that alone. It wouldn't surprise me if Beane released those tweets to intentionally drop Allen down to us. Fans are going to go nuts when they him play, once again I question how much fans have actually seen of Allen, I am so !@#$ing excited.

4 maybe 5 years.

How do I disprove a negative? I said I DON'T KNOW, NEITHER DOES JROBER. Nobody knows if it's a hit or miss yet!

If you don't even give somebody an honest chance, I think that's a dirtball stance to take. Then to preach about analytics and pretend to predict the future and know what's going to happen, yeah people like that can kindly !@#$ off.