Rock-A-Bye Beasley

Yeah I do. Don’t worry about it. You’re obviously not smart enough to understand things unless they’re explicit.

Yeah Gruden looks bad saying this but how many of you were predicting playoffs before last season knowing Peterman was the starter? There have only been 7 Bills games since Beane and McDermott allowed Nathan Peterman to start (again) for this team by the way.

I’m talking to a few different people about the 2017 draft. I haven’t gone off topic once. In fact, I’m trying to keep the conversation on-topic while some are insulting me for simply disagreeing with them.

How have the Browns or Bengals or Chargers drafted in the past couple years compared to the Bills? When you say it's a "good" draft you're implying it's being compared to the other teams. You could be right I just don't see the evidence.

ok then how about you prove me wrong and support your argument with examples? I'm really not interested in talking about myself or you. This is a Bills forum

It doesnt matter if they're EXACTLY as good as they would have been in Buffalo. That's all i was saying to you They are star QBs and it was a mistake to pass on them. Whether or not anyone knew that ahead of time is also not relevant.

hmm a personal insult instead of examples to support your argument. Not surprised

ok, true, but that's what I mean when I say it doesn't matter. Why even bring it up?

He was replying to someone who made that argument thats why he said that.

what did other teams get? That's the problem, you're not looking at other teams results. You follow the Bills so you're happy with their "starters!" when each team has their own favorite players you never give a second thought to.

What's wrong with being critical of decisions? I only talk about personnel or on the field decisions and whether or not they are going to lead to a superbowl. You're the one making it personal. You and Augie, Try bringing the conversation back to the draft and if you honestly think getting 3 "starters!" every year will lead to a superbowl victory in the future when other teams are adding definitively better players. No one said that and it doesn't matter

Here they come, the personal insults. Keep em coming guys it really helps your argument

Wait remind me when the Bills may have traded up for another receiver, one that had a lot of drops and an embarrassing naked video, I think it was pretty recently

Someone started a thread about the 2017 draft. If you don't want to talk about Peterman don't bring him up. He was part of the 2017 draft class Cool, hopefully this will end that "argument" that the Bills 2017 draft was good because I personally didn't know Mahomes would be good

I disagree, that's why I'm debating it.

My pre-draft opinion has no value or affect on anything.

Yeah but it's Nathan Peterman we are talking about. Why does it seem like I'm not allowed to use the on the field results in my arguments with you people?

I'm saying other teams also got 3 starters, probably most teams

No I'm not. I've clearly stated I didn't have an opinion about Mahomes and even if I did it wouldn't matter.

Yet he was the opening day starter less than one year ago and taking valuable first team reps from Allen

How do you evaluate a draft? do you consider if other teams got 3 starters also?

It doesn't matter if I did or didn't predict it, and I've never claimed that.

Stop being completely delusional/dishonest about this draft class? KC ended up with Mahomes and we got Peterman. Just a simple acceptance of the facts or just maybe not praising the draft when it was a disaster. It's hilarious how bad it ended up. QB is the most important position and we got the worst one of all time. Compared to what? How do you evaluate a draft? because I would think you have to compare the players picked to the ones not picked.

I didn't start this thread. What is the OP using to evaluate the players the Bills picked? Oh no! it's hingsight!

Quit under-reacting. "a really good year"? it was probably top 3 all time and they should have won the superbowl if not for some terrible calls in 4th qtr and OT against them. Listen, I'm past the point of blaming anyone, but when I see threads like this it's annoying because it's so obviously delusional. Here come the personal insults. Stick to your argument, if it's strong enough it will speak for itself.