Richard Noggin

He had a really bad habit of retreating in the pocket, and trying to escape out the backdoor, so to speak. He tried climbing the pocket on a number of occasions Sunday, with some success. But he also scampered up into the DTs collapsing and the DEs doubling back a bunch. He had happy feet and dropping eyes all day. *also, his throwing motion/release caught my eye again (more below) To that point about preparation: that Mahomes release, especially on deeper throws, has become seriously elongated by the end of this season. He would really load up and rear back his upper body for deep throws. His elbow was dropping way too much, too often. Almost reverting back to a pitching off the mound wind-up, in a way. I see regression. Totally correctable, no doubt. But he's played a TON of football the last 6/7 seasons, and has a ton of off-field pursuits (which might slow a little now). I don't know anything about his regimens and capacities for relentless self-criticism. I'll bet he gets a lot better next year as long as his offensive line improves. (I recall KC fixing the line after the TB Super Bowl loss, so there is precedent.)

You really think they'd re-sign Hollins, draft another 2nd round receiver, and sign Hollywood Brown in FA? Or just hope? I don't hate the proposed investment at all, but I think the Bills will more likely again hope for growth from both Coleman and Kincaid, further assimilation for Samuel, and direct that Hollywood money more towards their own guy, Shakir. Sure hope Hollins comes back. And wouldn't it be cool if Shavers takes a leap forward? (But that's all hopeful projection. That's got them into trouble with the WR corps before.)

Not the result of in-depth pre-draft analysis, yet. Probably too many picks tbh. 10 draftees usually won't all make the team. The first 4 selections should be roster locks, with another couple/few sneaky talents rising out of the back half of the draft. Consider 1 or 2 to the PS, another 1 or 2 to the IR, and still another 1 or 2 to a rival's 53. **oh, and I traded with KC, turns out. They drafted this guy at 30: Did I hand them yet another 1st round gem?

"Tough" especially for a small town girl who initially rejected Allen, like everyone else, but then hopped back on that express train once it had finally passed through late Puberty and emerged as a butterfly/specimen with professional potential. "Tough" after molding yourself into a plastic persona designed to capitalize on engagement sourced from the success of that same kid you initially rejected, and his accomplishments/appeals.

Most people in 2025 who would consider NOT watching the SB don't watch sports in ways that are actively influencing "ratings" estimates to begin with. At least not the "potential" or undecided viewers. They exist outside our data collection systems (in their minds) Boycotts might be our most powerful tool in the coming years (but not for "free items"). Very true, however, that TV ratings services are super outdated and arbitrary and only meaningful within self-fulfilling legacy media ecosystems anyways. I'm excited to 100% HATE-WATCH the SB again. Years of rooting against the Patriots prepared me for this. (God bless those two years of cheering on Eli Manning and Steve Spagnuolo...wait, what!?)

No, we're misunderstanding each other. I replied to another poster in a way that had nothing to do with Allen's awesome, sincere acceptance speech.

The poster responded to the criticism with cluelessness, and it went from there. I'm not AT ALL worried about how much fans were mentioned by Josh Allen. He's mostly beyond reproach in my book. I think everyone is happy to attack critiques of Allen, but I'm not someone presenting ANY critiques of him today.

His entire career from draft to tonight's speech, counts. He's good in our book.

Oof that's certainly a way to perceive things. I think it's fine to celebrate Josh Allen's professional sports achievements without saying he deserves it more than working folks who have remained resilient and optimistically obsessed (and willing to spend their money) for decades/generations with the Bills. That's just silly. (And I do not care AT ALL that Allen didn't mention fans in his acceptance speech. He was nervous and emotional. It's not about recognition. Recognition is only monetizable for Allen. It's actually expensive for us fans, eventually, when he and the team have ultimate success.)

MANY workers in the US put their bodies on the line without even remotely similar rewards/remuneration on the table, so let's not get lost in the sauce here.

The bolded portion, no doubt. "Allen deserves it more than Bills fans" or something like that? WTF

I'd really like to congratulate Josh Allen on this meaningful award. Whew, really nice to finally exhale and see Allen appreciated at least for his...sportsmanship! So underrated otherwise...

Brittany probably looking something like this near the end of Allen's acceptance speech: (plagiarizing myself in the other mega thread)

I'm guessing this is Twitter. Let us never expect anything but narcissistic grift on Twitter, yeah?

Brittany right now, probably

Kinda shocked he won it. Figured the Bills serve the NFL best as likeable try-hards who continually, forever, get crushed.

The Crosby V. Mahomes montage going around online (where he's getting under Patty's skin by doing basically nothing in the larger context of pro football) is enough to put him at the top of my Bills fan wishlist. That kind of petty competitive juice is sorely needed. Oh, the NFL is tilting the field in favor of the Chiefs?! Then get a guy who can chase Mahomes uphill.

Brady was already QB coach during Dorsey's first season as OC. So he was brought in as part of Dorsey's inaugural staff, in fact. (Not to dispute how smart it is to simply ALWAYS STACK all the talent cupboards with coaches and players and staff and administrators, no matter what the present situation is.)

EVERY QB could benefit from having Eric Moulds (years 3-10) in the mix. It's a great comp.

Agreed in general, but the point about not taking Bruce Smith off the field still holds for top pass rushers; look at the recent snap counts of a Crosby or Hutchinson or Verse, for reference. Those top guys usually prefer mucho reps in order to learn about and adapt to and set up and then exploit specific opponents throughout a given game. The Bills don't exactly have EDGE guys right now who possess the full repertoires to adapt and overcome and excel as a game progresses. They definitely don't have elite guys anywhere on their DL, tbh. We've seen both Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau have elite single game performances, but we haven't seen it very often. So maybe rotating them makes sense, in a cynical way?

No one going to point out a certain name on that list? No wonder they have two OL assistants...

A lot of posters on this board would privately hope to be this lucky by age 46. Tommy Doyle is still only 26! Has earned over $3M in 4 years in the league. Probably went to college entirely for free. At face value, that all sounds pretty LUCKY.

Brady's scheme with Buffalo, to date, obviously hasn't been designed to feature a particular WR/target consistently, week-over-week. So the "everyone eats" mantra has been touted instead, and for the most part, I appreciate that approach. However, doesn't it seem like anything the Bills have really wanted to do in the passing game, generally, philosophically, like any ways they've intended to utilize specific targets, has either been anticipated by defenses and shut down, or just hasn't worked. I'm thinking of Harty and Samuel each of the last two years, respectively, being that motion/sweep guy, or screen guy, and also of Davis and Coleman, respectively, being that sideline/contested catch guy, and even Kincaid being much of anything to fear/respect. The obvious fits haven't "fit" in the passing game. Brady's real successes have come from isolating Ty Johnson in the passing game one week, and Dawson Knox another week, and often from Allen just making plays and finding Shakir (along with some flashes by the rookie Coleman and decent skinny posts by Hollins). Something still seems to be missing from the passing game, if we're looking for things to flag. It's gotta be the downfield threat, or lack thereof. Right?

I recall a lot of noise suggesting Hall left on less-than-amicable terms. Not necessarily open hostility, but there was talk of him feeling passed-over and also maybe not aligned with McDermott's vision for offense? His going to Jacksonville WAS a lateral move following the Bills' promotion of a different offensive coach, after all. Agree with the bolded to an extent. Allen definitely took a huge step forward with respect to on-field maturity/decision-making. But the Bills also seemed unwilling OR UNABLE to leverage all this intentional offensive physicality and balance into aggressive shot plays for the majority of the season. Part of that might have been the lack of WRs who could reliably get behind defenses. Part of that might have been Allen missing a handful of those plays when they were there. Part of that might have been conservative coaching philosophy. Difficult for us to see it clearly. *agree completely on the tight ends. The duo of Knox and Kincaid should be a menace in some way each week. Knox and Allen have always had a decent chemistry, and Kincaid is now entering year three. Time to see it on a consistent basis. **does anyone still have lingering questions about Brady's passing concepts? Route concepts and spacing? Curious if our smarter contributors can weigh in on this point. ***SUPER unpopular question: is Josh Allen kinda relatively meh at those ULTRA FAST/RPO type decisions post-snap? Seems like he's not with the Elite level guys on quick game/option-heavy plays. With Daboll he had some obvious success for stretches with a shotgun, spread, quick passing attack, but in 2020, defenses were far less muddled and variable and away game crowd noise didn't exist...I don't know

Even Robert Foster legitimately flashed in the second half of Allen's rookie season. Guys with that extra gear and knack for getting behind a defense had historically performed well with Allen...until things changed. The Bills WR depth chart got gradually worse, no doubt, and right as defensive coordinators learned to put a bit of a lid on the deep ball. Hence the offensive pendulum swinging back to balance and blah blah. But you still need at least that deep threat to compete against the best. And the Bills need to get it back to complement their balanced, physical attack. To continue to evolve.