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@HappyDays Love this take. Mark it. It's a gem.

BT Jaguar 😭

It is possible. We won't know for 2-3 years.

I'm sure he tried, but he had a limit. I don't know that limit, but I'm certain he is better informed than I am.

Are we learning ANYTHING from this? If you are honestly watching other GM's get fleeced for a very small jump up the board, and you wanted us to jump from 28 to the top 10, I pity you... Sorry... I just do. In. Beane. We. Trust.

Next year, I am literally blocking off the first two days, and taking off of work. I'm missing too many quality message board posts 🤬🤷‍♂️😂

Night I: Ziggy's ("Dive" Bills bar in The Public Market of Rochester), with the crew who watches games together all year. Night II: Bar Bill Tavern East, in Irondequoit Bay, with some dudes I'm trying to convert to BILLievers. Night III: Home in front of my compy.

@SoonerBillsFan This is precisely the situation I'm worried about: Maybe getting the next great WR, but leaving the asset cupboard bare for the next couple of seasons. This is the way good teams crumble: Over-estimating their valuations, over-paying assets, and still being uncertain whether or not the player you traded up for will make the impact you believe. Sammy Watkins, anyone?

I'll be honest, I almost ignored this video because I initially read it as "Jerry O'Sullivan," and I couldn't imagine wasting more than 5 seconds watching that deflated satchel of bones appear on screen, and listening to him talk bad about the Bills. I'm just glad he's crawled off into insignificance. Thanks for the share, in retrospect. Good insights!

Oh, I wasn't saying that the Doubts pick was better than the Shakir one; I'm saying there are talented scouts out there, who play a hand in selecting good WR outside of the 1st round. I agree that McBeane have collectively "turtled", since the Zay Jones experiment, and their resource allocation choices haven't been what I would have hoped, either. My point is that it would be wise for Beane to identify those scouts picking productive WR outside of round one, and bring them into the fold. Not every single example is perfect, but I don't feel like we have been confident enough in our scouting of rounds 2-3 WR to pick one. Maybe it is just their overreaction to the Jones pick; us amateur speculators will never know. But if the following are true: 1. Beane has a lack of confidence in our scouting of 2nd-3rd round WR talent. 2. Some other teams seem to capably draft WR in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Then, why would we not want to look to successful programs and talent identifiers / scouts? That is my point.

I wouldn't say it was Marino's idea to lure away GB and Pitt's scouts; that's just my take. All I'm saying is people on here are very likely to freak out if we don't take a WR in the 1st, while other team have proven capable of taking good WR in the 2nd and later. Piggybacking on that is that if other teams have gotten good results, why should our staff ignore that? Point on Pooka, of course. I was just mentioning two teams who have landed good WR outside of round one. And yes: I do think that paying attention to teams that draft a position we need is probably wise.

@eball Like Buffalo Rumblings podcast host, Bruce Nolan, says: Be as good as you can for as long as you can, and hope for a little luck 😉 @Pine Barrens Mafia You know, this is the kind of meta-analysis we should really talk about. Is Beane head-hunting for the scouts that keep getting hits on high-value positions in the draft? Joe Marino, of Locked on Bills Podcast, noted the other day that Green Bay has quietly built a nasty WR corps, without a single 1st round pick (two 2nds, a 4th, and a 5th). If I'm Beane, I would be in Terry's ear (or pocketbook), trying to get him to buy out some of Green Bay and Pittsburgh's scouts. That's what's going to make us successful, down the road. 4-D chess, man!

I went Franklin because if there is a chance to double-dip at WR, there's not another player left with his skillset. Also, I think Coleman falls further than Franklin would, so there's still a slight chance to trade up for Coleman.

Yeah, definitely true on the Samuel signing, and good point on Brady's potential tenure. I mean, none of us know how long these guys will last. Heck, if you told me we would move on from Morse--or to a lesser extent Diggs, due to the dead money--I'd have scoffed at it, but here we are.

@KDIGGZ Ha ha! That's exactly what I was saying: If we can get him with a trade down into the 2nd, or a slight trade up from 60, I'm in. Right there with ya, buddy! Agreed that he's not the value I want at 28.

You know who else was skinny and went down easily? Diggs. Just sayin'. I'm not super high on Franklin, but we literally just need bodies that can run and catch, at this point. If we can get him with either a trade down in the 1st or a small trade up in the 2nd, I would be down with it. Also of note: I've heard that Brady courted Franklin to try and get him to LSU, while Brady was there. He's got some intel on Franklin, and if Brady likes him, there's got to be good reason for it. Just food for thought.

Andy Reid is sending his son to consult with Sweat, now, about trying to drop further, so they don't even need to spend assets on him. Inhumane behavior, but #typical from KC...

@GunnerBill I'll have a double-portion of Option 4, with a side of chips & malt vinegar, please!

Does this mean McDermott will actually start rookie WR, this season, or is the plan to only pass to James Cook and Tyler Johnson 🤔

Just saw that Vonte Davis passed. For the less than stellar time he had here, Davis should be remembered for some seriously incredible seasons: Sad loss.

Have to agree on Corley. Sadly, he is mostly a slot guy, so he'll basically help some other team beat us 😭

PLEASE, Tomlin: Take JPJ, so we don't have to! Bump another (Insert word that's been banned from this thread) down the board! Am I doing this right?