Stank_Nasty

if they can catch a stroke of luck and actually nab a solid bridge while they develop a young guy they could end up doing solid.... they just went 5-4 to end the season with gabbert and Stanton at qb and no david Johnson..... truth is.... it would suck to be in the nfc in general. there's a big group of real good qb's there. another year or 2 and the afc is gonna be wide open after ben and brady are gone. this is soooo pointless. dude. the bills won, the ravens lost. one team did what they needed to and the other didn't. hand picking individual games to try and prove a lame point is just..... lame. whats with you and these dumb "if" scenarios? i'll say it AGAIN. one team did what they needed to over 16 games to get in and the other didn't.... WHAT THE HECK DOES A GAME AGAINST THE BENGALS BACK IN OCTOBER DO TO CHANGE THAT? all these "if's" and thanking the bengals in the name of tyring to discredit the playoff bid just becuz you don't like who the qb was. its not very becoming.... I think its sorta sad.

the truth is one team did enough over 16 games and the other didn't. again.... should we go back and credit the steelers for our playoff bid? maybe the jags for beating the ravens 40-0 back in the start of the season? it shouldn't matter when it happens. week one or week 16. one team did enough and the other didn't. bottom line. i'm not giving anyone else credit for jack squat.

ugh. the ultimate cop out from people trying to discount the season. should we give credit to the steelers as well? they drove down the field and beat the ravens weeks earlier. how about any teams that beat them in September? there's a bottom line here. one team did what they needed to over a full 16 games to get in and the other DID NOT.

as for your list earlier. I stand by what I said that you live in hypocrisy here.... I don't really disagree with your list I guess.... but if I said taylor "led" the bills to the playoffs you would probably blow a gasket. yet if they are losing he "led" them there.... did taylor lead the bills to the playoffs, shady? you said he's the leader, right?

right.... I edited the orginal post and said I was being nit picky.

the interesting part is thinking taylor would be wasting a players season but brissett wouldn't..... Hilton had 4 straight 1000 yd seasons and then brissett came into the mix this year.... if i'm fitz i'm not overly enthused with either player I guess i'm just being nit picky for the sake of it though.... I don't really care too much. lol.... that just struck me as odd.

wait just a damned minute. your hypocrisy is one of the main reason we butt heads so much... the other day you cited a bad passer rating in a handful of games as one of many reasons we need to move on from taylor but all year you narrative was that passer rating means nothing.... and now you state he "led the team" to an 0-2 start but when the team wins and makes the playoffs its in spite of him..... this right here is ridiculous. so its only a team sport if they are winning. apparently when he's losing its on his shoulders... and passer rating means nothing when his are good, but when you need to try and prove a point you say he "led" them to an 0-2 record and use horrific passer ratings to try and push the narrative. good lord dude. come on man!

well regardless of the reason for it. its a huge issue and likely the one that keeps him from ever being more than what he is.... which will be a stop-gap qb for another one or 2 franchises. I thought he did a solid job in buffalo considering the circumstances but now its time to move on.... I really hope he goes to team like Arizona. I think they could win 9-11 games with him. heck, they went 5-4 to finish out he season last year with gabbert and Stanton at qb and no david Johnson.

why do a handful of you guys do this? don't you see how it looks sorta lame when you try and say lynn got fired? the dudes work with the offense is basically what got him a head coaching gig. being overly technical and saying he got fired to prove a point against tyrod is honestly sorta foolish. I dunno how you cant see how lame it is to do that all for the sake of trying confirm an argument against the qb. 16's offense scored points. hands down. it was a good unit. taylor directly impacted that with his arm and legs. they did a good job of scoring points..... and that basically got lynn a HC job. don't pretend that taylor got lynn canned. that's a bit ridiculous wouldn't you say?

100%. I cant believe he’s arguing the TO differential we had wasn’t a direct impact in the season. Honestly... it’s really the only thing the team did really well. They took the ball away and didn’t turn it over and it won them games.

imagine the secondary in general if the bills had any semblance of a pass rush..... my GAWWDDDD

My bad. Right. Apparently you can’t see how flawed it is to use rating in that discussion but yet anytime he’s had a good one you basically discount it. The team wins in spite of him in those occasions right? Dude... be consistent. If you say rating is overrated then you can’t freaking use it to prove a point. When you do it’s not a good look ftr those games were enough for me as well.

Right. That sums it up. Really that simple isn’t it? This is a joke of a post. Great job. Keep it up.

I didn’t ask that question. Shady did. And then I put in my 2 cents about what you said. If you are gonna lay down blanket statements I’m gonna point out they are missing context.

All the stats need to be factored in. But it was just funny to me that rating means nothing when it’s good and Taylor is just padding stats and not taking risks but when his rating is bad we’ll go ahead and use it to prove a point. Believe it or not I actually agree Taylor’s rating has been padded a bit by his tentative play. Which is why I rarely use it in any Taylor argument. But I would like to see some consistency from people with strong opinions on the matter. If you discredit his good rated games naturally you shouldn’t put much stock in the bad ones either. Correct? There are are double standards around here on both sides. This just happened to be the one I saw this morning as I popped in the forum in my office. It’s never this black and white. But go ahead and take all context out and make a blanket statement like this. Makes sense

there's some sort of struggle going on here. that's for sure.

we need to move on from tyrod..... but its odd that I see you'll use games with a bad rating as an example of that but go on to say that rating/efficiency doesn't mean much of anything when its used in an argument for the positives on taylor. I mean.... come on man..... and any minute now teddy is gonna respond to this post with a passing yd ranking..... just wait for it.

again... what does it have to do with what I asked shady?

oh look. the worst poster on the board dipped into the passing yard well one more time....... who could have predicted that! too bad that has nothing to do with what I was asking shady about.... another awful moment in the teddy posting timeline. at least you are reliable.

so we should care about the games with bad qb ratings is what you are saying correct? am I getting that right? for some reason this doesn't jive with me when I've been told by you and others that we should pay no mind to all the games where he's had a good rating. I've been told numerous times that rating means nothing... apparently only the games with good ratings mean nothing? let me get this straight. you'll disregard any game he has a good rating but use the games with bad ratings as examples for your point? that's just really really flawed and 100% agenda driven. but at this point from what ive seen around here, I wouldn't expect anything less.

but he's got wr's running wide open all game!!!! I know becuz plenty of posters around here tell me so! on a serious note. I've already moved on. lets just make it official as soon as possible. the only way i'd be ok with keeping him around is if they still go out and make a huge move in the draft to get their guy.

from what ive gleaned he should be a go for week 1 but I heard that they shouldn't expect him to be 100%.... I don't think its out of the realm of possibility to see foles for 2 or 3 weeks to give him another month. if ya have that luxury what not use it?

accept john just stated he wants to move on from taylor.... you just lack the comprehension skills to understand you can go to bat for a guy when he's getting bagged on everyday but still wanna move on and upgrade from said player.

I think jimmy already made it pretty apparent in san fran the rest of the team isn't as big an issue if you have a huge talent at qb. so cap number at that point isn't as big an issue. is it going to surprise you if they give him a huge number and they keep winning like they did to finish out the 17 season?.... and your original rebuttal towards me was not wanting to trade those picks for him based on small sample size... whats a smaller sample size than a rookie having never played a down? its dumb i'm putting this much effort into this argument anyways becuz its never gonna happen. lol

a team wins 5 straight games after winning one all year and the only major change they made was a qb...... does much more need to be said for that? the guy had multiple 300 yd games, was tossing the ball all over the yard and they were scoring a serious amount of points. he had 1500 freaking yds in 5 starts dude. you left that part out. that's one hell of a sample. it wasn't the pats he was stepping in for again...... the niners had one freaking win. and it was against the giants. and if we are gonna argue having a small sample size as not wanting to trade those picks then i'm assuming you aren't on board with using them to move up and draft a qb?