Stank_Nasty

Both Acho and Douglas, on first take this morning, think Allen is top 3 in the NFL. Although Acho not putting Mahomes in his top 5 is absolutely absurd. Qb rankings discussion starts at about the 1:45 mark.

wtf does this have to do with anything that i said?

ummm, has there been a big movement against bill simmons around here that i'm missing? speaking of Bills haters. Nick Wrong came out and said the same thing earlier in the week. Basically said if he was a bills fan watching the superbowl he'd be sick to his stomach knowing we would have rolled both the teams playing.

maybe because the wr illegally twisting the db's head via facemask was responsible for that play even happening?.... its odd i needed to explain that one to you.

the other stuff is hit or miss but you NAILED the bolded. She seemed to actively go out of her way to criticize buffalo allllll season. It was odd.

Back in November she said Mac Jones was the best QB in the conference. When she said Burrow over Allen today, i immediately went back to that moment and then just chuckled.... it doesnt warrant any other reaction really.

Reading "much better athlete than josh allen" honestly just gave me a chuckle. I feel like people sometimes forget he's doing what he's doing at 6'5 245... And then theres that arm of his. .... honestly, has there ever been a qb in NFL that was a "much better athlete" than allen?.... seriously. EVER?

These are all fair points. the only one i see thats sorta grasping is you keep trying to discount elways last 2 seasons. That doesnt make a lot of sense to me. it was part of his career... Are you saying that a packers team thats gone 13-3 for 3 straight seasons is bereft of talent? ... rodgers still has a couple years to write his story. he very well might end up winning a title or 2 on a talented team(may or may not be GB) and solidify himself as a top 3-ish. i suppose we'll discount that as well, just to be fair?

manning made 3 titles in his prime and another on coat tails. So again i disagree. Win a freaking conference title man. Sometimes i think people underrate what top 5 means. Its HALLOWED ground man. Winning the biggest games matters. It needs to matter... heck its the only reason a guy like Aikman is even in the HOF. And when did i say Elway was clutch for that superbowl? Elway is considered clutch because of his whole career and body of work. which, again, includes 5 SUPERBOWLS. i feel like your whole aim is slanting narratives. you conveniently leave out Elways 2nd title where he went for 330 yds and a 100 qb rating. And again leave out the fact he won his own conference 5 teams.... you just keep harping elways subpar superbowl win. its odd. I'm done with this for now though. you get into that 4,5,6 range and its all up for big time debate. But IMO Rodgers lack of postseason success needs to be a factor when you are talking about the 5 best qb's of ALL TIME.

i mean we can all cherry pick games and plays. Or we could look at the bodies of work. One has a rep for being one of the most clutch qb's of all time.... The other doesnt. Elway went to five freaking superbowls man. FIVE... and again, i'm not saying Aaron had to win as many superbowls as Elway. But how about get to more than one? I"m not losin my mind over somebody putting Rodgers in their top 5. I just think its highly debatable and you absolutely have to put postseason accomplishments into the equation when talking about all time lists. That seems very fair IMO. how many did his defesne give up in their playoff loss this year? fair to mention it, right?

choking away #1 seeds can drop a guy IMO. thats just me..... and honestly, a couple of years ago i may have been projecting a bit thinking he'd be in one or 2 more. thats on me.

Because in my personal opinion, and i think in a lot of other peoples, raising your game in the postseason and postseason success is a requirement when we are comparing best of all time. Not the end all be all, but definitely a large factor. Another superbowl or 2 woulda greatly helped his cause IMO. not even wins. just some appearances. Game on the line. 1:30 left. Elway or rodgers. Who you taking? For me its Elway and it aint even close. And i think stuff like that matters. Now tack on the fact that these guys all have generationally great production in their respective era's, and i'll take the guys that keep going to title games.

flip flop graham for elway and thats my list as well. Unitas never gets enough love and his numbers are absurd for the era. .... as for rodgers. before the last 2 years i argued he was a shoe in for top 5 all time with a friend of mine that happens to be a brady truther..... after the last 2 years IMO he's been relegated to top ten IMO

i agree they missed opportunities but the bottom line there for me is they went for 30+ and were doing what they wanted in crunch time before an all pro caliber player made a freak once in a season play... but i'll leave it at that. i personally just cant really put much on the offense there. its a tough game to stomach in general because a once in a career play(for allen) changed the whole complexion of the playoffs. the guy was 29 for 30 up to that point on sneaks with the only mishap being a botches snap... those freakish instances seemed to be a theme this year 🙄

allen went for 360 and 3 td if i'm not mistaken. they scored 31 and moved the ball at will on the final drive up until the freak 4th down play.... did you honestly come away from that game disappointed in the offense? other than the botched sneak? ..... thats odd to me.

I'll admit i was less confident in this team than 20's team based on the regular season. But when all was said and done the biggest difference in squads was 21 allens ability to go completely thermonuclear in the biggest of moments and thats why now that the dust has settled this 21 was our best shot in the last 30 years.... luckily i dont think his ability to go above it all is gonna vanish anytime soon.

Good for you bro. Keep it up 🙄

And it’s phenomenal. Store bought will do but I usually stop into the local bar and pick it up because their recipe is lights out. Sometimes i feel like the people that rip on ranch have only ever had store bought. … I’ve never seen a whole area be so snobby about one measly condiment. But then again I’ve stuck up for mahomes and his ketchup on steaks. Because like I said upstream….. food snobs suck.

Pizza Hut is awesome. Pizza Hut with a side of ranch is even better. …. Food snobs annoy me.

I personally think the Arrowhead mystique is done with.... They essentially got punched in the mouth in their own house 2 weeks in a row. They just so happened to get bailed out by an epic coaching meltdown.

Was there not a massively blatant block in the back right there as mahomes rolled out?

The recipe almost every single year is peaking at the right time, having some things break your way(rodgers and brady going down while bengals beat titans for a home title game), and riding out a QB on a absolute heater to the Lombardi. That was literally all in motion for this squad. No we ARE NOT overplaying or chances of winning the whole dang thing if we take care of those 13 seconds. "breezed" to it is a bit strong. But we would have been the clear cut favorite coming out of Arrowhead.

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Man, they go nuclear if you act like there's even a convo to be had. That’s my main gripe with them. They act like their boy is in some sort of mythical “god tier” and then it’s all the other mere peasants…. all while being 12-5.