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The early 90s started the moving/new stadium craze that sucked up the NFL. Had the Bills stayed the way they were in the 80s they 100% would've been pulled into that. Figure that Raiders, Rams, Cardinals, Oilers, Browns all did move while Pats, Bengals, and Seahawks all were at risk of moving without new stadiums being made. Buffalo would've been in that crew of at least talks and the stadium renovation/club seats in the late 90s was crucial to them staying in Buffalo. Someone made this point earlier but Flutie and crew in the late 90s was actually more critical in some senses as people got really excited when the stadium reno talks were happening which made it easier to absorb.

Most times in sports it is this combination more then anything else. I do believe some orgs are healthier then others and the owner stays the heck beck which allows the FO and coaches to just do their job which eliminates overlap/division. The Ravens I have felt are the best run org in football as they have won going on 3 decades and won a variety of ways without having a true franchise elite guy until recently with Lamar. The 49ers in the last decade went from great to awful/tirefire and back to great basically because ownership stayed out, got involved, and they stayed out as they hired some smart people. They are a focal point of literally what to do and what not to do haha But yea Ralph finally hired a smart personnel guy in Polian and stayed back long enough for it to turn up. I think he even said firing Polian was his biggest mistake and while Butler was good you could slowly see things change as smart guys like AJ Smith left. Owners are very wealthy and powerful people who like to have a say as they are use to that. The best are smart enough to understand they do not understand and let the people in charge do what they should. The Pegula's got a little lucky with McD and Beane, but I do think they also saw the issues with people like Whaley/Rex and getting involved.

I would say this Kelly/Bruce/Polian helped rise the team out of the doldrums to a level that made them mythical in a sense with four super bowls in four years, K Gun innovation, Bruce dominating, HOU comeback etc... That was probably what also helped to cement the fan base as a wild passionate group too. By the fourth SB heck 3rd people were done with Buffalo. The fans basically through the middle finger up and said were here deal with it same as the team. Without that success does the team move? Probably not but by the same token without all that winning and success if they just were a fringe playoff team from time to time, then they basically are the Detroit Lions or the St Louis Cardinals. Maybe you don't have the passion to keep the team or the history etc.. of people leaning on great Bills teams that do bring great memories. Much of the national sports media throughout the drought wanted to see Buffalo get good again because it was good for the sport and the passion of the Bills fans was respected. That doesn't happen without Kelly/Bruce/Polian etc.. yea they never won a title but in a sense they became mythical for their perseverance and later Kelly with cancer. So yea I think it did play a role and without the Bills successful and that history maybee nationally the attitude is well its just Buffalo whatever. Whereas with the success your moving a franchise that played a significant role in NFL history both good and bad fortune wise. The 80/90s saw some historic franchises move that you otherwise wouldn't have thought ever happen (CLE/BAL/HOU) so I do not ever assume we would've been protected.

Until Josh Allen defeats the Packers, 85 Bears, and 07 Patriots in the Super Bowl at the same time while also defeating Thanos in the parking lot and the Emperor in pre game I need to see more.

Very unlikely this passes and even if it does loopholes exist anyway

I think he will be elsewhere at at least $11 mil avg a year.

Bud its ride or die time. From 2020 on I have been ready and experienced an immense amount of pain from losses because of expectations. Keep bringing it because they will break through and I'm ready for it. Burn the ships and just believe.

That was the part about Ty that drove you nuts. He would have games he would show incredible flashes or a few games like SEA/MIA-wk16 in 2016 where he looked the part of a franchise. But the consistency and decision making never was enough. Like I said Tua, Tyrod, Jimmy G are all guys with a certain ceiling where you can do some stuff, but when the chips are on the table their not it. They are not bad QBs, they are 100% the type for a down franchise that can help elevate things back up to some standard, but they tease your expectations.

Tua reminds me alotttt of Tyrod. He is not bad, he has had moments where you can say "hey he might have something", but overall never can put it fully together then .500 to wild card spot. I wouldn't be surprised if Tua gets the Phins a playoff spot as his weapons' are good, but like SF with Jimmy G I think they end up desiring more.

Honestly take a step back and stop buying anything. IDK if I would fully stop watching as its hard just with media coverage, but basically I would do what I did to the Sabres for 2-3 years until this year and act like they don't exist and it isn't changing. He is a monster and predator who should be in a jail cell and I wouldn't want him, so it would be a tough bunch of years basically not being a fan but so it would be. People bring up Vick but he legit served his time. If the Bills signed him fine, he paid his punishment at that point and he did seem to actually rehab himself as a person.

True commitment!

Amazingly enough there are hundreds of members of Bills mafia that ALSO puke before each game!

1000%. People forget its the language of our law that allows a lot of loopholes in many cases especially those of sexual/abuse nature. If we were guilty until proven innocent he would already be in a jail cell. He is off because we make it soo difficult, not because he did not do it.

The fact someone thought of this is insane and stupid. No he doesn't belong near the wall of fame, its for players who were great and the best of their position not nice guys.

He actually would be a superb announcer. Tons of stories and experience mixed with a great knowledge of the game and he is an easy guy to listen to.

He should sign 11 one day retirement contracts one for each team lol

Sports across the board is always trend driven. TE revolution has come tenfold over the last decade and while I hate them, the Pats showed the blueprint of what you can down with two talented big TEs at once and everything has evolved since then. The WR market is getting realllyyyy interesting now that some teams would rather trade guys for picks then pay them. I wonder if the WR market money wise presses down $ wise as more and more talented guys are being found after the 1st round. If I were to rate the top 3-4 positions I would expect to hold value for the long term I would do as followed: 1. QB (franchise guy forever is 1 as it gives you 10-15 years of certainty and potential to win) 2. Pass Rusher (whether DE/OLB etc it can alter a defense completely and the gameplan of an offense) 3. LT/Blindside T 4. CB (Gotta be super elite guy the way Peterson, Revis or Sherman were back in their hey day but it can literally shut down half the passing field) Other then that most positions to me including WR are replaceable to a large extent. If you figure with Josh, Diggs probably has 3 great years left whereas Josh 10-12. Josh will likely have a phase 2 with a whole different core of great players including WR.

I think Debo Samuels usage last year could lay a blueprint for a new style of RBs that are more WR esq but large enough to run up the middle and fast enough for catching the ball.

The Pegula Super Yacht agrees with this statement

My understanding is in markets where they adjusted PSL costs you either were refunded or it credited to your tickets themselves if you paid. If you didn't just lowered payment. I think seniority will still exist you just end up either adding the additional PSL cost or if you already paid your PSL paying the difference. I thought that the Bills control the PSL market for all sales? I could be wrong

If this is the case how much do I have to pay them to list me as an average FB

Exactly. And there is a reason in LA it was a fully privately funded stadium, the development around it was a revenue generator the owner wanted. Last time I checked Orchard Park is lining up with RFP's lol

So a few things: -His second best game of his career 47-17 came at home (KC next game is his best) -His three worst games of 2021 came on atrocious weather days IND/NE/ATL where the other QB didn't do well either whereas not a single road game in 2021 had bad weather of any form. To me that explain the drastic differences you see in his stats -His worst game of 2020 came in a crappy rain/wind game vs KC and his only other truly porous game at home was against LAC. Again on the road he got good weather by comparison -2020 his stats are nearly identical with his accuracy slightly lower -I can't even go back to 2018 or 2019 as he was developing/a different player at that time to now. -In 3 playoff home games he was over 300 yds in two of them and the other game Buffalo was able to take the foot off the gas once Lamar went out and just run the clock out -Allen would've been the NFL MVP in 2020 if it wasn't for Rodgers being just that good and a little better also. His season was basically perfect minus one game (KC) across the board. MVP seasons do not happen every year, but high quality QB seasons do when you have a franchise guy which last year was. High caliber seasons still have a few off games because the guys are human and again the three worst games were all horrendous weather days that any QB would have to deal with.

I would rank it like this: Phins- On paper the roster is very solid and the offense COULD be incredibly dynamic. It all comes down to Tua on that side of the ball and whether he can take a big step or not. I truthfully see him like Tyrod where he can do some things but he is limited which means MIA can be a playoff team but nothing more. They have had a very very loud offseason which historically does not translate into the most wins and is something I always look at. Pats: By the end of last season you could easily see the Pats were hiding Jones because of his limitations. If it wasn't for this team being coached by BB I would have them 4th in the division because after Matt Judon and Devin McCourty this team has nothing in terms of blue chip talent. But with BB he manages to typically push them closer in games. I think they go 6-11 but like 2020 they are in the vast majority of games and eventually fade away. Jets: The Jets are a year away from being a playoff chaser and they are the Jets...BUT long term they make me the most nervous of any team in our division. They added in my eyes potentially three blue chip talents to a roster that needed it badly. They will probably win 5-7 games, but unlike last year I think their defense tightens up to keep them in more games and the offense shows some signs of a pulse. Wilson has the talent in a way Tua doesn't, but even if he takes some big steps that may make him a league average QB which is progress but not enough to compete fully. 2023 with another draft of talent and roster building I see them as a far larger threat.

lol my bad I read that completely wrong.. it was a long day hahahaha It is wild that for most of of their history through the 90s and the early time of Snyder that WFT was one of the crown jewels in the NFLs crown and it at this point is a waste basket. It really surprises me the NFL has not forced a sale the way the MLB did with the Dodgers so they get comptenecy back in one of their biggest most important markets.