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I vote for newer posters not being able to start threads. I don't mind the trade as much as I mind that the Jets gave up way too much to move up three spots. If Buffalo does decide to trade up, it will likely cost them a lot more to do it now.

The floor mat at St John Fisher in August of 2013 to EJ Manuel

This is a good option in my opinion(assuming a high draft pick). He would know his role as a backup and is good enough where the team is not screwed if he needs to start four or six games.

My Ideal choice would be one of the top quarterbacks drafted with Anderson or Daniel as insurance.

Ladies and gentleman, we have two very strong entries to start the new game of "How Brandon Beane can lose an entire fan base on one day."

I like this trade. If you go by the draft value chart 21 to 12 is 400 points which is about a mid round 2nd pick. To move up to top 3 from 12, you would probably need to give away the 12, 22 and at least a 2nd rounder. Now getting to 3 is suddenly doable without forfeiting an entire draft.

Maybe as an understood backup or stop gap, but this would be a disappointment to me. Out of the choices discussed, it would be my least favorite. He wouldn't be quite good enough to count on for long term success, but just good enough to expect a commitment as a starter and a large contract. Even keeping Tyrod would have been better than going with Bradford.

Anderson. Perfect balance of not being confused as a starter but good enough where if our draft pick got hurt for a few games or wasn't ready yet, the season would not seem like it was over.

Browns fans will love Taylor at first because even though he is too hesitant at times, he makes minimal mistakes. I saw a couple of Browns games and saw a bit of them on Red Zone. Kizer could move the ball but was incredibly mistake prone. Many Browns games were competitive until somewhere between late 2nd and early 4th where a boneheaded mistake, usually by Kizer would happen and cause things to unravel. Tyrod's game managing style will be a welcome change This has applied to Bills fans often during the drought We had 2 years of Losmans 100-150 yards to Evans and 30 to everyone else in a game and got sick of it. When Edwards came in his "checking down" was seen as finally spreading the ball around, managing the game and using his tools. It was a welcome relief until no progress happened in two years and we started knowing him as Captain Checkdown After we saw too many 20/25 140 yds games, we got sick of it and in came Fitz. We loved Fitz because he wasnt hesitant, threw the ball around with reckless abandon and even though there were turnovers, we were finally getting 300 yard games and points again. After two years with no progress we started calling him Pickspatrick, he was gone and the cycle repeated with others afterwards. For at least the first 8 games Taylor will be the greatest thing since sliced bread according to Browns fans.

Agreed, the Nate Peterman era is now here. I just wonder what the greatest memory of the Peterman era will be between now and when it ends next Wednesday shortly after 4PM?

It was time to move on and I have faith that there will be an upgrade, but this thread was pointless. No need to knock a guy who gave three starter calibers years here. Keep in mind that our choices in 2015 would have otherwise been EJ Manuel and Matt Cassel These last three years could have definitely been worse at QB.

I had this opinion too, but I am ok with this. I do think we are drafting in the first round but one of the veterans that available will be announced soon. (Foles, Cousins, Keenum) etc. I cant see this regime making this move without a concrete plan in the works.

As I am processing this, good move for both teams. For Cleveland, Taylor is miles ahead of anyone that they had at QB last season. They can draft someone, but they have a starter if not. For Buffalo after Taylor was benched, the writing was on the wall. They got more for him than anyone expected. I am certain that a plan is in place for quarterback if this move was made. No way they would do this if there was any chance that they were coming into the season with Peterman as their top choice. Clean break. Taylor went from a career backup to a three year starter, and Buffalo broke the curse during his time. Best quarterback that we had since arguably Flutie but it was time to move ahead. He has my respect and I wish him the best of luck.

I would have rather seen Taylor kept until a rookie was in place, but the first pick in the third round is a good grab for him. After breaking the curse last year, this regime has earned my trust. Hopefully a draft pick, veteran and Peterman battling for a job.

Easy choice, Kaepernick. He is very outspoken, but does have experience and could be a servicable stop gap or backup in the right system. If he kept if off the field and dedicated himself to football, he could be useful somewhere. Hypothetically, regardless of who our starter is, I would take Kaep as a backup over Peterman anytime. Manziel has no track record of NFL success and an addiction issue which he has yet to prove that he can kick long term. IMO, he will need at least a couple years of sustained CFL success to even be thought of in the NFL again.

I would easily go for Jacksoville. I am not a Marrone fan but anyone takes precedence over New England unless its a scenario that directly effects buffalo in a playoff hunt. Its not even about not liking a division rival for me. New England is the Epitome of what I dislike about the current NFL. I dislike the brown nosing from the announcers, I hate the fact that ref calls often give them a 7 to 10 point cushion against opponents(in my opinion, when you factor the officiating in most Pats games, a team has to play good enough to beat New England by 10 instead of 1 to actually get the win). I dislike the creative new arbitrary interpretations of rules that tend to come up at least one or twice a year which happen to give New England an advantage at a key time. I cant stand the personalities of Brady, Bellicheck and Gronk. I dislike the extreme arrogance of Pats fans, many of which were casual fans or fans of different teams before 2001. I find it very hard to even watch a game with New England in it now. Them losing would make in much easier for me to enjoy the Super Bowl.

Keep TT and draft someone high. TT is not a long term option, but he is definitely capable of scoring more than what happened in the second half of the season. I put a lot of the blame for this year on a very depleted receiving group(Benjamin was an upgrade but essentially playing on one leg for most of his time here), a painfully conservative offensive system and starting the wrong linemen in some cases. Taylor was putting more points on the boards under a different system. Unless we get Alex Smith or Garoppolo, I don't see any available veteran that we can count on to do more than Taylor. Cousins in my opinion is not good enough to justify the cost. Bradford is a china doll. Bridgewater is a big question mark after the injury. Keenum is a slightly better version of Orton. Draft a QB-This is easy to defend. We eventually need a franchise quarterback and Taylor is not it. The draft is the best chance to do that. With a deeper than normal QB class and a high amount of early picks, it is now or never.

The news....I mean media entertainment nbcnews, cnn and foxnews sites are readily available for those who enjoy the increasing divide in this country. This site is supposed to be about football.

I know that your a troll, but both coaches did a good job with what they had this year.

Or he can focus on the win that him and his team earned, just a thought.

Last time the Bills were in the playoffs, January of 2000 -I was fresh out of college driving my first car that I owned a 1985 Buick Century. -Angelfire sites, ICQ and AOL IM were the social media of the time -WCW was still a pro wrestling promotion -Terrible music plagued the radio stations regardless of preferred genre, Napster was the way around it. -I was laughing at the overbearing obnoxious wing nut families that my family knew for wasting thousands of dollars on bulk food and prepping supplies over the two years before to prepare for the y2k while shaming the rest of us who weren't doing the same thing.

This is exactly it. Combine this with the traditional impatience that Buffalo fans have with quarterbacks and the views on Tyrod are inevitable. Don't forget when Kelly was in his prime, that there was a significant camp of fans that thought Kelly should be benched for Reich. Imagine what the boards would have looked like if the internet existed back then? Elite QB's are hard to come by. If Buffalo has Dalton, Mariotta, Winston, Tannehill, Bortles, Eli Manning, Flacco, Alex Smith or Stafford, I am convinced that he is being anointed as a worse starting option than any rookie or mediocre veteran that comes up in conversations in the same way that Taylor currently is. This does not mean that I think Taylor is elite, just that quarterbacks in Buffalo are put under a larger microscope than most other places.

I hold no grudge against Maclin. Players always choose what they think is the best fit and I don't remember him being disrespectful to Buffalo in any way when choosing to go elsewhere. Boldin on the other hand got what he deserved. Had he said upfront that the changes made him feel that Buffalo was no longer the opportunity that he thought it was after the trades, it would have sucked but been at least honest and understandable at the time. Instead he fabricated a spiritual calling to be on a social justice crusade which apparently was going to take place in Florida or Boston as soon as the playoff hunt came around. Sorry Boldin, your loss, not ours.

Thank you. Hopefully McCoy is ok, and this scenario does not come up.

To be fair, things looked very bleak after that San Diego game. That three game stretch in the middle of the season was as bad as I have ever seen Buffalo or any team perform in a three game stretch. I am sure that most of us including myself had 2008 and 2011 on their mind and were thinking "here we go again" McDermott and the team deserve a lot of credit for finishing 4-2 after that game and doing what they needed to get in. Great show of character and any doubts that anyone had about McDermott should be erased. Many teams in that scenario would have mailed it in and finished 5-11 or 6-10.