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Holy crap dude! This is awesome! Great work

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb Football Outsiders says he has the 13th highest DYAR and 10th highest DVOA

Regarding the DTs, particularly Dareus, we were absolutely incredible against the run game. That tackle for Kyle he referred to is, from when I can remember the only play he made during the game. Let me rephrase, the only tackle he made in the game or the only thing that pops on a stat sheet. DTs are space eaters. I don't think we should be overly concerned right now. If our run defense looks this good, I'm betting the DTs are doing their jobs. Great post, as always, Shaw

I'm really glad I'm not the only one confused here. This really doesn't make much sense And what? You assume a guys who haven't even played a meaningful NFL snap like Mahomes and Trubisky are better already than a guy who's started 30 NFL games over the last 2 years?

Wow. You think Cutler (or Tannehill... take your pick), Goff, the current Carson Palmer, Kizer, Glennon, Watson, McCarron, Trubisky, Garrapalo, Mahomes, Moore and Siemian are all really better than Taylor? Based off what? Preseason for some of those guys? College careers for others? 1 game for Goff? What you think their careers will look like?

No. It's not meaningless. It's like at least 6% meaningful, unlike the preseason everyone was whining about, which was ZERO percent meaningful.

Nah... that was just pure luck. It would have only been a great throw if Aaron Rodgers or Russel Wilson threw it. It's just luck for Taylor. damn I wish there was a sarcasm sign here

Unless that TD came in the last minute, certainly not great. And even if it were a last minute TD, still probably not, but maybe close.

I wonder if you really know what luck is. Luck would have been that same play except a defender over the middle in between Taylor and Matthews tips the ball or nearly intercepts it but the ball still gets to Matthews, who catches it. That's not what happened and that's why it clearly wasn't luck but a great play. Maybe an unconventional great play, but that's what a lot of great plays are. Do you think Shady, who does TONS of things RBs are taught never to do is lucky?

Oy... are you seriously on this much of a crusade? Was it a 1st down or a turnover? If he didn't throw it, what happens? You are refusing to acknowledge how great that play was and how very few NFL QBs could have made that play all because it would concede something. Absolutely ridiculous. How many historically great plays have been throws QBs were largely taught not to throw? Oh, and where was the luck on that play? On that play you seem to be confusing luck and skill.

Yes, he did. One more game. I thought there was a legit chance if he played terribly in game 1 and for a good chunk of game 2, he might be benched. Pretty clearly game 1 earned him one more game this year. And if game 1 were replicated through the entire year, the conversation will be interesting.

Yep. What I've been saying all day. Special play.

Love? Seriously? This sounds like a weird form of jealousy.

Weird that you used the word "great" for a 284 yard, 1 TD and 0 INT game but "good" for a 300+ yard game with 3 TDs and 0 INTs. Truthfully, really makes you seem like a Troll. I don't think you're one, but you look like one here.

Yeah, Brees has had a lot of garbage time stats. That guy sucks! Holy crap. You're nuts.

Of course we all will be especially if (and it likely will) result in losses. We're friggin die hard Bills fans, aren't you? The better question maybe if you and a few others will be extra mad if Taylor plays really well in the next two games I think the most vile and loathsome folks on here are those who are actively rooting against Taylor, even going so far as rooting for injury. And there are clearly a few of those. Are you one of them? I don't doubt that PFR is a nice, often reliable website. But they aren't officially a part of the NFL. When I said that other poster was wrong, I was looking at the play by plays on the NFL's official website. Are you honestly telling me that I should trust PFR's play by play more than the NFL's play by play? And if that's what you're really telling me, when I have time I'll have to just go to my game pass subscription and rewatch all the third downs. But boy oh boy, it sounds really suspect to say that PFR has a more reliable play by play breakdown than the NFL's official website Sounds like you're implying that much of Brees's career stats have been in garbage time. I mean, the Saints have sucked for years now, haven't they? That guy better not go in the goddamn Hall of Fame!

Hey man... everyone makes mistakes, including PFR, apparently

Then why were the numbers you posted incorrect?

The 3rd and 11 pass to Jordan Matthews over the middle that gained 14 yards (is 14 yards a short and simple throw, to you?) was one of the most difficult and impressive plays and throws (QB running to his left and throwing a dart to a WR with defenders all around) you'll see from a QB. There were other plays that were those intermediate timing routes slanting to the middle designed for YAC like the 1st play of the Bills 2nd series to Zay Jones. 21 yard gain. 7 YAC after the ball was caught 14 yards beyond the LOS. Do you want your QB doing headstands while he's throwing the ball or something? If you didn't include so much definitive and ridiculous hyperbole in some of your posts, you'd sometimes sound reasonable.

No, he didn't. This is where you lose everyone else. Yesterday Taylor was throwing pretty consistently (I haven't gone through and analyzed play by play, yet, but I plan to go have a look) to the middle 1/3rd of the field beyond 5 and 10 yards... that whole "intermediate" portion folks are so critical of. They were hardly "short and very simple throws." If that's really what you think, you weren't paying attention. Taylor was really good using the middle of the field yesterday. Any objective observer could see that. That's why you see so many nationally are recognizing that from the game. If Taylor's play from yesterday is an indicator of things to come for the rest of the season, brace yourself for Taylor being our QB again in 2018, at the very least.

Didn't I say virtually any other QB? Didn't I specifically mention Aaron Rodgers by name? Yeah, I'd include Russell Wilson in there. Mariota isn't elusive in the same way Rodgers, Wilson and Taylor are.

Taylor in 2015 and 2016 was one of the 10 best QBs in the NFL at converting 3rd and long. You're just lost and Taylor isn't good enough for you and never will be. That's fine. But your perception on him is based on pretty lofty expectations even great NFL QBs don't really meet. If you think there's many QBs in the NFL (other than Aaron Rodgers probably) who could have converted that 3rd and 11 to Matthews in the middle of the field towards the end of the 1st quarter, you're selectively watching games only for plays you aren't happy with and ignoring the great plays. That was a great play that's a sack for virtually any other QB. Why are you using some random secondary website? Go to NFL.com and click on the play by play for the game and do it yourself. Don't be lazy and post some link that could easily be wrong. Go count it up. It doesn't take long.

I counted 7-14 in total 3rd down conversions after going through the play by play. In reality it was 8-15. Taylor was 4-9 on 3rd down passes (5-10 if you include the DPI called on the attempted pass to Holmes on 3rd down) and 3-5 on 3rd down runs. I don't know if you were trying to count team rushing, but even your team rushing numbers were wrong. 5/10 on 3rd down conversions passing certainly isn't failing. If Taylor were to end the year with a 50% 3rd down conversion % when passing the football, I guarantee you he'd be near the top of the league.

Hokie.... you and I are on the same page. YPT is a stat I legitimately think the NFL should be tracking. And if you calculate those out, Taylor would have 6.7 YPT (In truth, we should probably take out any kneeldowns at the end of halves or games so Taylor's actual YPT if you took those out would be 7.4 YPT... but I'm not bothering to figure out kneeldowns for other QBs, so we'll go with 6.7) vs. other QBs like Alex Smith: 8.3 YPT Aaron Rodgers: 5.8 YPT Carson Wentz: 6.8 YPT Tom Brady: 6.0 YPT Derek Carr: 7.0 YPT