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Do what you gotta do man, just stop telling other people to do something you refuse to do yourself.

Dude. Step away for awhile. You sound angry all the time.

Nice post, Shaw. As usual. I know everyone thinks the sky is falling, but do people realize how seriously good the Panthers front 7 is? The Panthers have an Elite D... especially the front 7. I'm still kind of scratching my head a little at our offensive gameplan. You're playing an Elite front 7 so you stick with the run game? I get that Shady is one of the best backs in the NFL, but the run and pass game should be called to work together to open each other up, better. From what I recall in the first half, almost every designed pass was a short pass. That pass to the left sideline to Clay that gained like 2 yards was infuriating. Then, we get into the 2nd half and the passing game opens up a little. And we get to the final drive and we look like an NFL offense. I know folks will say something about the Panthers letting us get that yardage because of a prevent defense, and maybe there's a little something to that, except for the fact that they weren't exactly defending the sidelines very well. It honestly felt like we were going to score a TD on that drive. Then we get a late flag on a questionable, at best, OPI against Holmes. I thought it was a bad call, but whatever. We still had a great play called on a 4th and 11 and almost came away with the win. That last pass could have been placed a little better for sure. But Taylor threw the ball pretty much where it needed to be since there was a CB lurking beneath Jones ready to intercept the pass if Taylor threw it shorter and to the sideline to lead the rook. Plus, Jones stumbled a bit. He still could have caught that ball. He probably would have been short of the end zone because he would have fallen, but we would have had one more play. We needed more offensive production earlier in the game. That was on every player on offense and on Dennison. I think this was the lowest of the low we see from our offense all season. We can't get much lower than what we saw yesterday, so I think that's pretty reasonable. On the flip side, GOD I hope that resembles our Defense for the rest of this season! If our D can be a top 10 or a top 5 D, the sky isn't falling on this team and I still think hope springs at least a couple more months for playoffs. Man... I'm excited about our secondary. I think White, Gaines, Hyde and Poyer (what a find that guy was!!!) are a pretty solid secondary to contribute behind a pretty excellent front 7. Even though our Offense was boring and atrocious yesterday, our D was legitimately fun to watch.

I'm guessing this is sarcasm, but Newton was pretty awful yesterday, so it shouldn't be all that shocking that Taylor got higher grades than Newton. The Bills just weren't throwing the football much especially in the first half. And when those pass plays were called, you could see that they were designed short passes. Like what the hell was that short out route to the sideline to Clay that gained like 2 yards?! Clay was clearly the first read. I don't know if in film study Dennison just decided not to attack the middle of the field from the beginning because of Kuechly and Davis, but that's how it looked. And the results were ridiculously short passes to the sidelines not designed for any YAC to start the game. When the 2nd half began, you could see there was some adjustment as the Bills finally started attacking other areas of the field, and the passing game progressed. By contrast, Newton had a number of big passing plays and pretty much EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was to a WIDE OPEN WR. I mean, is that even a question? Sure, there was a pass or two he put in a tight window. Otherwise EVERY SINGLE BIG PASSING PLAY was to a wide open guy. It's great that he completed those passes if you're a Panthers fan, but notching those as spectacular or great passes by Newton is ridiculous. And then, to top it off, he just blatantly missed a whole bunch of WRs, including a pass that had to be one of the easier NFL throws you can make to a(nother) WIDE OPEN Christian McCaffery on the last drive inside the 10 that would have iced the game for the Panthers. Taylor wasn't good yesterday, but neither was Newton. And saying Newton was worse than Taylor is certainly reasonable.

You know this, how? DId you hear how downtrodden and critical Cam was about his own inaccuracy after the game? Are we even talking about the same play? I'm talking about the one where the Panthers were inside the 10 and Newton rolled to his right a little and threw the ball very high to a WIDE OPEN Christian McCaffery. Is that the play you're talking about? That was the one I was referring to.

Does your life really suck this much? You're becoming a nasty and hateful poster. Maybe you're the one who needs to step away for awhile. I already set the parameters for the bet. You in?

Hypocrite because you tell me constantly not to keep or get dumb arguments going with certain posters and should instead just ignore them like you ignore Jm. Yet you're constantly poking and prodding Jm in the same confrontational manner you criticize so much. Clearly hypocritical

So interesting what happens to perspective when it's not our QB. Did someone here actually use the word "incredible" for Newton's game yesterday? Incredible?! Seriously?!?! That's insanity

Thought it was 3rd quarter. 2nd quarter. Whenever it was. Didn't much matter. He was in the game long enough where he wasn't impacting the game. And Newton had those other guys, too.

Olsen was there most of the game dude. And on top of Olsen he has an Elite WR in Benjamin, a supposedly Elite rookie hybrid in McCafferry who he flat MISSED on a wide open TD that would have made our final 2 minute drive garbage time and other WRs like Funchess who've been good in the league. And are you serious about their D? Their front 7 might be the best in football, yet we decided running on that front 7 was the best game plan even after it wasn't working for over half the game. So stupid.

Fantastic post. Totally agree!

Not a petty bet, brah. You keep saying stuff like this. "The end is near." How near? Don't make definitive statements when you don't have a clue. And if your response is that you're obviously more right than I am, it's a simple bet without long term consequences. What's the problem? Or not confident in a single game? How about we go at least 2-1 in our next 3 games? Same consequences but this time over the bye week. I'll follow through. 100%. C'mon man. You and Crusher and old school and jmc are so friggin concrete and definitive in your statements, I'd think the bye week would be a good cutoff for you.

Really? Wow this is a simple pretty friendly bet with consequences that last a total of one week. I'm sorry but you and your crew (you apparently designated Crusher your leader...?) post so concretely about what will happen with Taylor and this team with Taylor at QB that you either really strongly believe what you say or you just use these message boards as your form of extreme hyperbolic venting. You apparently can't stand the "CoT" and you clearly put me in there. Here's your way to get some retribution in a friendly bet

Is this a no on the bet with you now twice ignoring me?

Do you accept my bet? Bills win next week and you can't say a single negative thing the following week leading up to Atlanta. If they lose same thing for me but I can't say anything positive. Break that, leave the board. Deal? I'll put that out to your three amigos as well: Crusher, old school and jmc

No, this is not me saying that Taylor is better than Newton. Yes, I am anticipating a lot of folks just jumping down my throat and this thread. Try being objective for even a second today. In a vacuum, we're going to move on from our current QB after this year if our passing game doesn't vastly improve and use an arsenal of draft picks to supposedly draft our future franchise QB who will likely compete for the starting job right away with Taylor and/or Peterman. Carolina is stuck with a guy with serious accuracy issues (today was far from an anomaly for Newton), who too often only throws to WRs who are wide open (helloooooo why were they so damn wide open at those points?!) and who already seems to be getting seriously affected by all the NFL hits he's taking. The Panthers have a fantastic D. If they're a good team this year, their likely riding their Elite D all the way. Not their overrated QB. Onto the next Elite D

Well. Just a thought, but people are probably being mean to each other because of hyperbole like your last statement. I've just been watching and enjoying. Too bad people can't just talk football

Yeah because we were clearly trying to lose today

Dude, you're being such a hypocritical ass here. You realize that, right? After all your condescension and criticism over the way I would respond to others in certain manners that escalate, all your "just ignore him the way I ignore Jm" is a bunch of horse manure.

Thank you. Overreacting is what everyone does Sunday. I used to stay away from the boards on game day. Circumstances lately have been bringing me here. NFL is soooooo week to week it's just ridiculous. I'm not saying the Bills will win next week and Taylor will have a good game, but it could happen. Too many are in the prediction business. Just try enjoying the damn football season while it's here. We're set up with an insane number of draft picks in 2018 so we can inject this team with a ton of young talent next year along with our (hopefully and finally) future franchise QB. But for now Taylor's still our QB. We're 1-1 and just fine at the moment. Let the coaches and players learn from this offensive performance, pun very much intended. Despite the obvious negativity, every week in the NFL is almost like a mini separate season all on its own and it's clear the coaches and players on this team are going to have some growing pains. If the Bills win, how about you're not allowed to post anything remotely negative for one week? To make it fair, if the Bills lose, I won't be positive in any way for one week. Just a fun bet. Deal?

And I've said many times I believe that, too. He's still our QB now, though. And with this D, I think giving up and saying the sky has fallen for this team's playoff hopes is premature. Hell, I wasn't even going to be shocked today if Taylor were benched and Peterman were put in.

Good for you. What team are you going to root for now? He's still the starter for the Buffalo Bills. I see Noogie's here. This must be an enlightening discussion

Our predictably, I think, was mainly due to the offensive formations. I'd love to see a breakdown of % of plays by formation, particularly the I-formation. Sure, players didn't win battles, but when you rush for a net of barely positive yardage (4 or 5 yards) on handoffs to the RB on first downs PLUS negative yardage (-1 yard, I believe) the handful of times you decided to run it a 2nd time immediately after a successful run, there's something to be said about the defense knowing what you're doing. It was a poorly called game by the OC with poor execution by the all parties in the O, as well. We should have been passing. The secondary is the weakest part of their D. Probably why we were successful doing it when we finally committed to it. The Panthers are an incredible D. Hopefully this isn't the norm. Agreed

Totally crap. You're basically saying playcalling plays no role. That's utterly wrong. When I said "run, run, pass" that's just a general euphemism for the predictable offense we had today. That predictably was mainly due to the offensive formations. I'd love to see a breakdown of % of plays by formation, particularly the I-formation. Sure, players didn't win battles, but when you rush for a net of barely positive yardage (4 or 5 yards) on handoffs to the RB on first downs PLUS negative yardage (-1 yard, I believe) the handful of times you decided to run it a 2nd time immediately after a successful run, there's something to be said about the defense knowing what you're doing. It was a poorly called game by the OC with poor execution by the all parties in the O, as well. The Panthers are an incredible D. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

Me too. I still think this team could make some noise with the D alone