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Does he look like he could threaten to usurp Glennon to start game #1? Commonsense would be really upset if that's what happens.

Well, it was brief, but I think we saw a plan of Taylor taking a lot of snaps under center and taking 3 and 5 stop drops and getting the ball out of his hands with quick timing routes, much like some of the article and traditional West Coast offenses often do. He might have taken more snaps under center in that quarter than any other game so far in his career. And I actually don't know if that hyperbole or not And he looked pretty good doing it.

Dude looks really good!!! At the very least we have great depth on the DL now I think.

He should definitely be our #2. God, Yates is a dumpster fire! Peterman reminds me of Fitz, though his arm might be weaker than The Beard.

Holy crap... I learned way too much about Boyst in this thread. God I'm an old soul at 36...

I think it's funny that you pro-rate Young's stats from 3 games to 16 games. That's absolutely ridiculous. I've been criticized for pro-rating Taylor's 2015 season from 14 to 16 games and you're going from 3 to 16... I think it's even funnier (and stranger) that Young didn't only play in 3 games in his 5th year... Young was really up and down for his first 4 years in the league and then came in with "spot duty" in his 5th and 6th years. The guy threw 154 passes, less than 1500 yards passing, 10 TDs and 3 INTs and that was him somehow "absolutely prov(ing) himself" after (or are you now saying before? ...that was a typo, right? ... I hope so, because saying anyone proved themselves in less than 100 pass attempts is preposterous) his 6th year? Revisionist history... Two.

Well... that's where I put my bowtie... sooooo...

There are only 3 more episodes already?!?! Damnit!!! Damn. You're good. And I even read the first 3 1/2 books

Right, I knew that. I just got my Targaryen's all kinds of mixed up I guess. Who's Dagny's mother?

He should have in the last episode... Hmmmm.... damn GOT.... guess I'm getting my characters all kinda mixed up... so Ned's sister's pregnancy was kept secret with Dagny's older brother, not father? I guess that makes more sense

His aunt? Wasn't the Mad King Dagny's father? Looking to me like he's Jon's father, too... no?

Not a chance Tyrion bends the knee to Cersei... he's going to stick with his half sister Dagny and half brother Jon Snow

Oh the irony... And Gunner... are you sure you don't want to see a picture of me in argyle socks, a poka dot bowtie... and nothing else?

Only if they're of yourself Whoop whoop!!!

I only got 1 warning point and it was the time I got the temporary ban. I'm pretty light actually. You're just assuming I'm angry as I type. But I do notice you like to direct your "posting corrections" at me when, in fact, Thurm was "fueling the fire" there with his "see folks, lookie at trannie doing this here" post. I think it's strange you choose to point out my "fire flaming" post rather than his. Could it be because you agree with his position on Taylor but not mine?

I'm really excited about that, too!

It's info literally anyone can easily find. Thurm's just nasty about the way he asks for (or requires) those things before anything else. Since he was (and always has been) nasty about it. I'm not doing work he could easily do. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been anything more than a color commentator in a thread. Ever consider engaging in actual discussion rather than commenting on the discussion that's occurring?

I'm feeding the fire? And why do you say "them" as though I've been out of line with multiple posters in this thread? I'm actually trying to have some discussion here and you think I'm the primary guilty party. Typical. Here's an idea, direct your corrective posting crusade at some of the other posters (just one in this case) who need to fix their incendiary posting and I'll believe at that point you're genuinely trying to be helpful in some way. As of now it just looks like you don't agree with what I say and don't want to keep reading stuff you disagree with, you act like you're being helpful here, yet you only seem to direct these "helpful" posts towards me when others need clearly the same if not more help. Spread the love, Shady, spread the love

It'd take anyone 5 minutes given the detail I've already given you. Took you that long at least to come up with and type yet another really stupid analogy of yours. And, honestly, if you weren't such an arrogant bastard when you first brought up providing the times, I probably would have done it. But that's what you are, so that's asking too much. At this point you're just stupidly derailing what could be a good discussion. I'll come back if you ever want to talk about this topic having watched the plays you could easily find...

No, there shouldn't be for anyone. He gets his weapons and the year he earned to prove he can either be a viable long term answer at QB or that the Bills need to put their draft arsenal towards a 1st round QB next year.

Another incredible contribution from Crusher

Bills burning question: What more does Taylor have to prove? He's a franchise QB https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-burning-question-what-more-does-taylor-have-to-prove-hes-a-franchise-qb/ Well, Thurm, some would disagree with you, apparently I don't agree with the article that he's proven he's a franchise QB. I still think he has a chance. We should have that answer at the end of this season.

Fine Thurm, keep running with your arbitrary numbers without even acknowledging Taylor saw less playing time than any single QB from your list save Shaun Hill and that Taylor played at a much higher level for his first 30 starts than any of those guys from your list save Rodgers and Romo. Keep ignoring the fact that 8 guys on your own list took nearly or more than a full seasons worth of snaps and had at least a season's worth of pass attempts. And that 4 of those 8 guys had about 2 season's worth or more. And that of the guys who were left, you came up with 5 guys (Hill, Huard, Holcomb, Fiedler, Wallace) who were either just not good or so inconsistent and up and down that it was pretty obvious out the gate that they were likely no better than good backups. And you're left with Rodgers and Romo who became franchise QBs (but also had significantly more pass attempts by the end of year 4, especially Rodgers) and then Garrard, Beurline, and Schaub who all were good enough to at least stick around the league as starters because there were some questions about whether they were franchise QBs or could be because they all played at that level for a relatively significant period of time. However, even the 3 of those QBs had at least a season's worth of pass attempts by the end of their 4th year. Beurline had 2 season's worth. Taylor had 35 pass attempts. He didn't see any significant live in-game action to really develop on the field with bullets flying, and you listen to or read interviews from ANY NFL QB past or present and they say time and time and time again that on field experience with bullets flying is the best way for a QB to learn, by far. If you want to argue for the sake of arguing (which is what we're doing right now), then whatever. But if you're so blinded as to see the fact that NFL QBs simply don't sit on the bench for the vast majority of their rookie contract and follow it up with winning the starting QB job in an open competition and then playing at even a consistently average NFL QB level for an extended period of time immediately starting their starting QB playing career. For that reason, your 6th year rules for Taylor don't apply here or, at least, are poised to be broken by a QB who's already been breaking rules for "things that just don't happen."

Not hiding anything at all, you have the seven games. Just go watch all the passes from those games and see if you come out with the same numbers as me. And if you don't, we can have a discussion. Just tell me the game, down and distance, and targeted WR with outcome and I'm smart enough to figure out which play it was so we can further pursue this wonderful discussion

Thurm, again, you say sixth year like it's a magical number. The problem is that absolutely none of the QBs you listed had his few regular season wraps as Taylor did. Why does that matter? Seems pretty obvious, but apparently you're too smart to get out of your own way sometimes so I'll explain briefly at least. QBs need some game time reps in order to learn the game at full speed. ask any QB or listen to any interview of any QB pastor present and they say resoundingly that it's the on field experience that really matters. passing attempts and first four years: Tyrod Taylor: 35 Matt Schaub: 450 Shaun Hill: 0 Seneco Wallace: 166 David Garrard: 298 Damon Huard: 288 Rex Grossman: 675 Matt Cassell: 555 Jay Fiedler: 101 Kelly Holcomb: 73 Tony Romo: 220 Aaron Rodgers: 595 Steve Beuerline: 610 Danny White: 103 Shaun Hill, Tyrod Taylor, Seneca Wallace, Jay Fiedler, and Kelly Holcomb are the QBs who started less than a season's worth of games before the end of year 4. Danny White is a completely different era and I don't know enough about him to discuss him. It was obvious by their 7th years that Fiedler, Hill, Wallace and Holcomb were all backups, whether after moving from team to team and starting some random games but never winning a starting job outright or just not being good, at all. That is something far from obvious for Taylor. The Taylor situation is incredibly unique. He might not be a franchise QB down the road, but your prized "6th year" criteria really doesn't matter much here.