transplantbillsfan

What a weird post. 10th and scoring because of garbage time? Seriously?! And other teams don't get points and garbage time? For that matter, how many points did we score in garbage time? I hate posts like this that are ill informed

Yep. Fickle people with short memories.

Did you watch the game last night? Or any of them, for that matter? Notice all the plays from shotgun for Peterman? Did you notice they even moved him around a bit for some passes? The offensive play calling will be predicated on who's under center, and if you watched Peterman there were plenty of plays they gave him that're clearly more for Taylor... except Taylor's preseason snaps consisted mostly of plays under center where Peterman seems a bit more comfortable. Hmmm... coincidence? I think you guys have heard me say it, making plays from the pocket -- I think we've tried to force that on him and work on that, and I think he's gotten better. I think he'll be better prepared. We know he can move around, the boots, the waggles, all that stuff -- you know, the zone reads. We know he can do that and we'll definitely plan to use that in the season. But, I think in practice you've been able to see the improvement in the pocket and even some plays in the game. That was Brandon Beane yesterday. Shocking... it's like there's a plan here and Taylor's involved in it. Three or four preseason games don't earn you the starting job in the NFL. Training camp does. Sure, preseason means something. But some of you make it seem like that's all or even most of the evaluation tool coaches actually use. Too funny

Educated opinion. Fair enough. At least you acknowledge you could be wrong

There's not much rationale in this except for the fact that Beane and McDermott pretty consistently say that Taylor is the Bills starting QB. So, if Taylor is the Bills starting QB, that means he's the guy on the field during the regular season. And if he's the guy on the field during the regular season, that means he's the QB of the Buffalo Bills when they're either winning or losing games either largely or partially or in spite of him. And if he's the guy on the field during the regular season, and he plays really well, and the Buffalo Bills win a lot of games and make the playoffs and win a game or two or three, that means that Beane and McDermott are going to have to seriously decide whether he can be the long term answer. And if we win a bunch of games and make the playoffs, we're going to be at the bottom of round one and will need to find a trade partner if we want to trade up to get another QB because we're so unhappy with Taylor because if they win all those games with Taylor playing really well and you think they're going into the following season saying Nate Peterman is the starting QB, you're nuts. Now yes, some of those are a stretch, particularly the 2nd to last one. But if Taylor plays pretty well and the team is winning, Peterman won't even see the field. How can a guy who the coaches aren't even likely hoping to see on the football field in the regular season have more of a chance at a future in Buffalo than the guy who's going to have the opportunity to actually prove he is in live game action?

Why do we need to do that if it's still doubtful he's an NFL starting QB? Prophesize away... A lot can happen in the course of a season or two. I'm sorry, are you talking about preseason here? And a preseason where the GM just publicly said that the offense he was operating really wasn't the offense he'd be operating during the regular season... are those the games you're talking about in terms of his QBR?

No. Nei The fact that Taylor was at the game is actually pretty significant. It's called "cognitive rest." If he still really badly needed it, he sure wouldn't be at a football game watching his teammates and the plays he's going to run where he's really not getting that rest.

I'm sorry Fig, but as much as I don't think Taylor's in Buffalo's long term future, he's got a better chance at it than Peterman, who might see 10 or 12 games, at most, this season. And even if Taylor were benched and Peterman comes in and looks really good, you think Beane (who played no part in drafting Peterman) isn't going to do everything he can to go out and get his guy in the draft with his stockpile of draft picks? Taylor and Peterman are both, at this point, longshots at being long term answers for this team at the position. But the reality is that Taylor has a more realistic shot at proving he can be this year than Peterman does.

I feel like lying is a violation of the CoC or something. You should stop doing it. Weird that you're saying this about him. He's far from part of your stupid "CoT." He's always been pretty critical of Taylor, actually. Can you please grow up?

Okay... so if we make the playoffs what're you gonna do, change your name? Are you actually going to actively root for Taylor to fail? No need to answer that question, actually... I already know the answer, unfortunately. Okay, now you're being an idiot. This is a complete lie. No one... absolutely no one has ever said Tyrod is better than Kelly in any way. Stop being a troll go Bills and go away, please

right on cue Last I checked, it's 17 years in a row we haven't made the playoffs What are you gonna do with yourself if this team actually does make the playoffs with Taylor at the helm?

It wasn't Taylor's job to lose in the Spring, apparently, when everyone was so excited about how McDermott was stressing that every single position is an open competition. So, if it's Taylor's job to lose, it's because he pretty clearly earned it through the spring camps and training camp. Occam's razor, folks. Why are we making this so complicated? Because of a few meaningless preseason games? I won't be one of them. You and OS and Crusher and xRushx and your ilk just don't get it: There is no CoT! We're Bills fans, and if Taylor is bad (for me) for the first 3 or 4 games, I'll be happy to see him pulled and see Peterman in there. This QB discussion will then turn into the handful of you probably continually berating other posters (your professed "CoT") for saying things they never said. Some people thrive off animosity. Have at it and enjoy. I just want a goddamn playoff season and I don't care who's under center when it happens!

I'll give you this: Champions of Tyrod and your definition of it is much more reasonable than those zany "Church of Tyrod" pushers So what you think then is that McDermott is going in with a plan to watch Taylor lose us a few games in order to put Peterman in after he's lost his job? Or you think he's putting Taylor in so this team can lose the most games possible? He said that there was pretty much an open competition at every position including QB way back in the spring and yet, McDermott has been pretty emphatic about Taylor being the starting QB. So, if you think he's a liar and is trying to do one of the 2 things above, yeah maybe. I don't think McDermott wants to lose games on purpose though and I don't think he wants to tank. But go on... keep up the narrative that Peterman actually won over Dennison and McDermott and it's some elaborate conspiracy to start Taylor instead Seems like wishful thinking for all you anTy posters

Awww, so cute the way you twist reality

Good God, you people put way too much stock in the preseason. I don't blame you. I used to do it, too. But I've come to realize that about 70 snaps and less than 30 passes in a vanilla offense put out to both mask your regular season plans and put you in the positions you're least accustomed to is an insignificant evaluative tool when compared with what's gotta be well over 100 hours of practice and film study time. Have you noticed how decisively Beane and McDermott affirmed that Taylor is the starter? Peterman has had a nice preseason and if Taylor flops, I'll be excited to see him play and will be hopefully optimistic that he can help this team win games, but I can't believe folks honestly believe Peterman has somehow earned the #1 job based on some preseason games

This is just sad.

Well now you're just making stuff up... are you proud of being a liar? That's just sad. I have never said the things you say in this post. Must be kind of fun to be deluded though

Yep. Hokie inferred this early this week I think and it's confirmed by Beane himself. Everybody freaking out about how this offense isn't a fit for Taylor based on preseason just needs to take a breath.

Yep. I agree with the sentiment that what you complain about or praise for one should be complained about or praised for another.

It's really weird that this becomes the narrative for Peterman, but ball placement is a big problem for Taylor On a side note, looking more and more like Taylor will be good to start next week. On top of Beane's comments earlier, I don't really think Peterman would have seen the field if McDermott & Co. weren't relatively confident Tyrod would be ready for the Jets. I'm just glad we have a promising young rookie who I think can still win us games if Taylor's playing badly 3 or 4 games into the season

​Did he say that? Nice, Hokie said this in another thread and this all but confirms the fact that the offense we've seen with Taylor won't be the offense we see in the regular season. Phew! What a relief!

He also said "he's the guy we want. He's the starter. He's got a lot of starts in this league and we're looking forward to him leading us out." As he should. Yates sucks. Taylor being there says as much as Beane's comments. If the effects of the concussion were still bad he wouldn't be there and would still be getting what they call cognitive rest.

I don't really disagree with what you say here, but I don't even know if it's really a response to what I said. I think when/if Taylor's under center to start the regular season, Dennison is going to roll him out and put him in shotgun a heckuva lot more than he has done for the first 3 games. Under those conditions, Taylor is more likely to thrive. I don't agree that our offense will be as bad as you say, though I think they take a step back. I think they'll be a middle of the pack offense. If the defense takes the big step forward I expect them to, this team is still probably destined for another 7-9 to 9-7 year. Worst offense we've seen in 10 years, huh? Well, guess we'll find out soon enough. No, we both don't know that, because you live in fantasy land. If you think I said Taylor was in the long-term plans (and please think about that word and what it implies), you're deluding yourself and others to try to perpetuate some narrative where I think Taylor is an Elite QB. Yah, never happened

Care to sum up what was said about (I'm guessing) Peterman as one of the top 5 (I assume) sleeper QBs for those of us who don't currently have access to Youtube?

Ummmm, what? Where did I ever say this? You like to oversimplify and twist words, I see. Tell me wherever I said this.