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Taylor's game or play won't change, you're right. But perception of his game is almost certain to change pretty widely. Wins and Losses do that for QBs. You see it all the time here. There are probably countless posts in this very thread where random posters are saying things like "I don't care about his stats, all I care about are Ws and Ls." Just think about everyone's counter to anyone who points to the Dolphins game last year as a positive discussion point: "But we still lost. He still couldn't do it." Ws and Ls are team stats, but they're attributed (probably quite unfairly) mostly to QBs. So, I think you're absolutely right. I actually think it's a pretty significant point. Personally, I don't think and never really thought Taylor was going to drastically change as a QB. I still don't think that. I think he'll be pretty careful with the football. I think there are always going to be WRs on the field he'll miss that he should have thrown to. I think there are always going to be times he should have stayed in the pocket rather than escaped the pocket and scrambled. But I think he'll always make enough positive plays with his legs to counterbalance some of those negatives. I think he'll probably use the middle of the football field this year mainly because of offensive design, but he's not going to suddenly become Tom Brady throwing over the middle. Taylor is largely what he is I think. I think he could do what he does well a little more consistently and do what he doesn't do well a little less. But he's not really going to be a different QB. But if this team wins a lot with him playing roughly like he did the last 2 years (2015 moreso than 2016) and he's throwing the ball a few more times per game than he did the last 2 years (which I expect), then I think Taylor will be seen in a whole new light, even though the likely actual reason this team would have improved so much will be because the D improved a lot. The D is going to be the key, just like it so often is. But the QB will get too much credit, just like they so often do.

Did he ever say Taylor is a great QB? Something seriously gets lost in translation for some people. Somehow saying Taylor is "good" or even "pretty good" somehow equates to saying he's "Elite" and it causes idiotic posters to create a stupid cult name in order to make anyone who thinks Taylor's a competent NFL QB look like he actually thinks he's Elite. So dumb.

Link? Who compiled these stats? Proving that things like this are subjective, Cian Fahey says Taylor has the 9th highest accuracy % in 2016. And he also defines accuracy as "catchable." That doesn't mean the stats you've provided are wrong or mine are right. You'd have to watch every single pass like those guys did to come to any conclusion on which one is more accurate. Still, that's interesting.

Why, Foxx? Why?

Whoop Whoop!!! We did it!!!

Oh, so you took more effort to type out an ellipses rather than the less words it takes to type out the number "5"? Interesting. I wonder why you chose to do that Can what stop? Are you implying someone is saying he's Elite? Is that what Tier 2 is? I never saw a definition for them. That's why I asked.

Except you're leaving out the fact that there's a Tier 5. And there were only 5 QBs in tier 1. Were you just guessing with this statement? In other words, from the sounds of it, Tier 3 is an average NFL QB, or a "middle of the road" QB. If anyone has Insider it'd be nice to read the description of each tier. One more page to go!!!!

That's not a Hot Take and it's really not something I'm remotely backtracking on. I said, as it was, that if Taylor maintained his game by game production for an entire career that those would be the numbers of a QB worthy of the HOF. I said, as it was, that 2015 was actually quite an exceptional year for a 1st year starting QB production was in terms, especially, of efficiency. And I said (and I love that this part always gets left out) that Taylor was likely going to drop in terms of that production and efficiency in his 2nd year, but that if he could somehow maintain it or even improve, we would have our answer at QB. He didn't. And it doesn't look like we do. Though he has one more year to pull off an exceptional year trying to prove that notion incorrect.

Are you guys really taking a victory lap right now over a single anonymous quote from a guy who, despite saying almost nothing positive, still puts him in tier 3? On a side note, what is tier 3?

What's that? Agreed Peterman is already better???? More hot takes from OS!!!

Yes. If offered that right now, of course you take it. Not happening, though.

Perfect example of someone adamantly rooting against Taylor right here.

Agreed. It's the sign of script writers working off source material (Martin's books) vs generating it on their own with very little direction from the creator. But why?! Why are they rushing? Are they actually 3 episodes short or was this amount the plan? GOT is probably HBO's biggest money maker... why not put out 3 more episodes?

Yes. Upsetting. Yup. What the hell is going on?!

I honestly don't know. I watch these things on demand. I have HBO go. I actually just watched the episode finally today and didn't hear a thing about it beforehand. I just exercise restraint when it comes to clicking and he thinks having to do with GOT. Unlike me responding to the threads having to do with Taylor I haven't really decided how I feel about the direction of GOT this season. Feels like a really mainstream approach. Everything feels too predictable. And I'll reserve judgment when the season ends, but I wonder if it's because of the fact that the script writers and not George RR Martin are now essentially in control of the story. We'll see. Still entertaining. Fun exercise in restraint. Who has it? Let's hope so...

But I'll be rooting hard for him to play well enough so that it doesn't happen. I think now that it's so close and almost so obviously going to happen, a large number of posters particularly in this thread are going to be rooting very hard against Taylor succeeding. Taylor has been set up in a situation that's interesting because she has been set up to fail while also being set up to prove he's the answer. Anyone with ESPN insider? General curiosity about what they say more than anything

Oh gawd... seriously?! Fig... c'mon man. If we trade McCoy and Taylor (which I absolutely think is possible), it's pretty obvious we're going nowhere and we're setting the team up for the best possible draft pick in 2018. AKA: Tanking

At least Taylor puts the onus on him... http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/sports/bills-receivers-challenged-adapt-boldin-retires-article-1.3433426 "No excuses ever want to be made on my end. You've got to deal with whatever's given to you," Taylor said. "Yes, we lost Sammy. Yes, we lost Anquan. But there's guys that are very good players, very talented players. We just have to do whatever it takes to get on the same page." almost there

Make or break season, yes. But it's looking more and more like the excuses will be there. That doesn't mean there will be any excuses whatsoever that warrant us not doing everything we can to trade up (if necessary) to draft a QB. Taylor needs to be better than 2016 and probably 2015 to make OBD even second-guess doing that. Which is perfectly fine.

I really think our D is gonna be pretty good. But our O will likely be bad. As another poster in another thread said: 2014 all over again. This is just getting sad. Never? Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson say hello.

Throwing darts directly to other players for what should be pick-6s if they don't drop the football What credit is Jones due? What's he ever done in the NFL?

Can I change it now?

Can you just go to the Chargers board already?

That's Shaw. I didn't agree with him.

I don't know if you're confusing me with someone else or something but I never said that. You seem pretty happy right now. This year is going to be sad. I think the team is going to quickly and visibly lose faith in the HC and GM. Wonder if Kyle sticks it out.