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Ultimately, I think McDermott and Beane are regretting that trade. Taylor really would have masked some massive deficiencies on our OL. But even with Taylor, we wouldn't have more than 4 wins right now. This team needs help. That's coming next year. The tradeoff is Taylor for Edmunds. Right now, this one year of sucking looks like a good tradeoff there. But yeah, we would have been better off this year with Taylor. I don't even want to read the thread to see if anyone is arguing we'd be equally bad. If they are, they're stupid.

I really get the impression from McDermott's PC that Allen is the most likely starter this week, especially now that he's apparently thrown the same amount as he'd throw in a practice and he's day to day.

It's funny... we currently actually have 6 QBs on our roster. Too bad the sum of the whole can't be equal to its parts with regard to the QB position...

Okay, I just went and watched the PC and it gives me hope. Looked to me like he really didn't want to answer that question, asked for the question again so he could gather himself, and then he answered "ummm... that would be correct, at this point in time, yes." I'm hoping and praying that's him hoping Allen or Anderson are ready to go OR he wants to see how much Barkley has grasped on the offense so far. In the end, I don't think Peterman is on the roster after the bye. ?

Losses would be fine if we knew Allen were playing and getting better. Or if he weren't playing, if we knew he had a capable QB coach/guru and/or savvy vet QB with the team who could help him get better. There would be positives to take away from that. Right now our situation is legitimately starting to look like McDermott might (deservedly...?) end up getting fired at the end of the season having stuck with Peterman through all the crap. As long as McDermott puts Allen back in as soon as he's healthy enough to play and doesn't keep trying to shovel his bloodlines of Peterman and/or Anderson down our throats the rest of the season, I'm good with Losses. Losses like yesterday are impossible to swallow.

Barkley would be better than Peterman... even with the little amount of time he's had with us.

Obviously not "or 3rd" if the team traded McCarron away. As for "finishing 2nd" in the QB competition, that's true, but only in the eyes of our Head Coach, who clearly has pretty crappy eyes for evaluating QBs.... I like him otherwise, but he's total crap there. And don't forget his "oh *****!!! I've made a huge mistake!!!!" moment that came in the VERY FIRST HALF OF THE FIRST GAME. Peterman won the QB competition in McDermott's eyes because McDermott was pretty stupidly evaluating play in preseason vanilla games rather than evaluating translatable skillsets to the regular season. For example, Peterman threw at least a pass a game in the preseason that should have been an interception, if not a pick-six. But the defenders in the preseason were preseason scrub defenders and couldn't hold onto the football, so those passes were dropped and (apparently) forgotten.

I thought the Bills would have kept Taylor for the year remaining he had on his contract for the very reason we were going to draft a future Franchise QB and McDermott is extremely conservative and would likely want to sit whoever that was. And if I had known we were planning on drafting, I probably would have bet money we would have kept Taylor for that reason, and I would have lost. Taylor would have covered a lot of blemishes on this offense, whatever you think of his passing. All that said, if we didn't trade Taylor, we never would have gotten Edmunds. So I'm still fine with that. But I'm not fine with the idea that McCarron was viewed as somehow a lateral move from what Taylor brought to the table as a vet. That part of this equation was ridiculous.

Right. To me, the mistake wasn't getting rid of McCarron and not bringing in a vet at all. It was bringing in McCarron rather than making a damn serious run at a grizzled vet who has had years of starting experience in the NFL. The reason I was saying over the Summer that Allen would win the QB competition week 1 (which he obviously would have if McDermott weren't a moron) had less to do with Allen than who he was up against. Nate Peterman... 1 INT for every 9 passes in his rookie year due, in part, to the lack of basic physical attributes necessary for an NFL QB. AJ McCarron... handful of NFL starts Josh Allen... the guy you traded up to #7 for. 6'5. 240 lbs. Athletic. Smart. Tough. Respected. Great teammate and leader. Strong arm. Allen was the obvious choice.

McCarron just blows. Tyrod would have at least survived a bit and maybe kept the offense alive with his legs. But Allen should have gotten all the reps considering we traded Taylor and our other options at QB.

We had Nate Peterman, who is awful, was awful and always will be awful (but is apparently related to McDermott), AJ McCarron, who was our supposed "vet QB" with a mere handful of NFL starts in his career, and the 6'5, 240 lb, athletic, smart, rocket armed rookie you just traded up to draft at #7. How the friggin hell do you not just make the OBVIOUS choice... and Allen WAS the OBVIOUS choice of that brilliant trio. What pisses me off the most about this offseason is the stupid Summer QB competition that took valuable reps away from Allen when he was inevitably going to start very quickly based on what we had at QB. You allow him to get a bit more comfortable with his OL and his WRs. Maybe we win another game and see him progressing. Maybe he doesn't get injured. Who knows? (And yeah, sure, you could argue it could go the other way, but friggin Peterman and McCarron were the alternatives) Everyone likes to point to the Mahomes model in KC as the logic behind their thought process over the Summer, but if the Chiefs didn't have Alex Smith, Mahomes would have started year 1 and probably would have been just fine. Plus, our Alex Smith to start the season (for at least the 1st half of the 1st game ) was Nate Peterman because the guy it was supposed to be wound up sucking so much we traded him to the Raiders for a 5th. I hope this works out for McBeane because I like them, but everything, absolutely everything about how they handled the QB situation over the Summer was all wrong. And ya know what, it seems like it's all stemming from the same ridiculous conservatism that we see in McDermott's in-game coaching. All we can do is hope they got Allen right and save their butts that way. But for God's sake, can we just get Allen back so games are relatively interesting again and I'm not entertaining myself watching Peterman to the tune of Yakety Sax in my head? Once Allen is healthy and the UCL in his elbow is no longer at risk of getting worse if he plays, he needs to play.

Didn't we just do that? Amazed our D hasn't thrown in the towel this season.

EJ is 100% correct.

Sheesh. I had the song "Yakety Sax" playing in my head during that entire game. Seems unreal to say this for a QB who threw 3 INTs, 0 TDs and less than 200 yards despite throwing the ball 49 times, but Peterman wasn't as utterly awful as he has been. Then again, he made the bar he has to clear so friggin low it's probably buried underground. But this team, right now, legitimately seems to have a shot at the #1 overall pick.

At this point??? We're halfway through the season already. I can guarantee even if Peterman starts the rest of the season, we will likely win 2 or 3 more games. So, what's your best scenario and worst scenario? If Allen is "the guy," I don't know that pick #5 is all that much different from #15 If #15 allows our rookie future Franchise QB to develop and figure out the game a bit.

In games Allen has both started and finished, the Bills are 2-2. And this team is now entering an easier portion of the schedule. I disagree.

Florio made a funny

So it says Allen was limited today. That's a first. Any word on whether he was throwing at all or not? Here's how quickly the winds could change on an NFL season and my feelings of it: IF (and that's a BIG if) Peterman manages to throw the ball to his own teammates on Sunday rather than Bears defenders and we can eek out a Win at New Era against a beatable Bears team and Allen looks like he's coming back, my excitement for the remaining 7 games of the season would be 100% back!

Obfuscate much? How can you actually argue that Peterman is better than Anderson?

justification over Peterman?

Confusing? Never said it was. This team beat the Vikings, beat the Titans, and would have beat the Texans if Peterman didn't play... thus, with anybody but Peterman, saying we're easily losing to even the Giants by 20 is just dumb. Might happen. Just as easily might not. Oh yeah, also, we didn't lose to the Patriots by 20. Saying what you said was dumb. Maybe purposefully hyperbolic. But dumb, nonetheless.

Well, there is a reason they're on defense and not offense, lest we forget all those dropped INTs/pick 6s during the preseason that allowed Peterman to somehow fool our HC into thinking he'd improved