transplantbillsfan

Where are you getting that this was a grade 2 sprain and not a grade 1 sprain?

How do you know he's not 100% healthy? How do you know that he risks making his UCL worse? Are you a doctor?

He's not a full go today for a team with the MOST CONSERVATIVE COACH IN THE NFL!!! You have no clue as to whether this was a case of McDermott, hearing from the doctors, that Allen is now healthy and doesn't risk injuring his UCL further, but deciding to continue to ease Allen back into throwing in order to see how he feels day by day. OR If this is team doctors saying he's still iffy and this is part of the rehab and recovery. If it's the former, Allen should start Sunday. If it's the latter, he shouldn't. You're clearly assuming it's the latter, and I don't know why. McDermott is a fantastic defensive coach, but he makes extremely head-scratching and often uber conservative decisions based on the QB position.

Whoop whoop!!!

If he is healthy and If he does not risk making the injury he sustained worse YOU START HIM!!! He needs the experience. And it's pointless to keep him on the bench if he doesn't risk further injury to his UCL, especially if Anderson is still ruled out.

What timing!!! Allen being limited is a great sign, but McDermott always errs extra on the side of caution, so maybe not...?

Sooo... shouldn't his PC be going now??? The only interesting thing will be Allen's status. Dear God I hope he's good to go.

This is an excellent post

No, we never should have brought AJ in as our vet/mentor QB. Trading Taylor before FA started without a viable replacement was mistake #1. Then mistake #2 was sitting on our hands as vet QBs with significant starting experience like Bradford, Bridgewater, McCown, Keenum, and Cousins were all snatched up KNOWING (as we can pretty much see noe that they did) that the plan was going to be to sit our rookie and let him learn from our vet was McBeane's dumbest mistake, and it now looks possible it could get one or both fired. And then they compounded the issue by trading McCarron without immediately bringing Anderson in. Mistake #3. Naming Peterman the starting QB. Mistake #4. And that's just offseason mistakes. Except that while Peterman's stats looked great in the preseason AND he looked fine doing what he was asked to do, he wasn't really making the challenging NFL throws he'd have to make during the regular season. Allen was. Players understand they aren't evaluated by stats, otherwise guys like Rod Streater and Brandon Reilly would be on the team. One of the biggest differences in the preseason was that Allen's stats suffered because his WRs couldn't catch while Peterman's stats were buoyed by defenders who couldn't catch...

Ummm... What???? https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/Bolt/Wonderlic-scores-revealed-for-top-quarterback-prospects-in-2018-NFL-Draft-116830596/Amp/

Ultimately, I think McDermott and Beane are regretting that trade. Taylor really would have masked some massive deficiencies on our OL. But even with Taylor, we wouldn't have more than 4 wins right now. This team needs help. That's coming next year. The tradeoff is Taylor for Edmunds. Right now, this one year of sucking looks like a good tradeoff there. But yeah, we would have been better off this year with Taylor. I don't even want to read the thread to see if anyone is arguing we'd be equally bad. If they are, they're stupid.

I really get the impression from McDermott's PC that Allen is the most likely starter this week, especially now that he's apparently thrown the same amount as he'd throw in a practice and he's day to day.

It's funny... we currently actually have 6 QBs on our roster. Too bad the sum of the whole can't be equal to its parts with regard to the QB position...

Okay, I just went and watched the PC and it gives me hope. Looked to me like he really didn't want to answer that question, asked for the question again so he could gather himself, and then he answered "ummm... that would be correct, at this point in time, yes." I'm hoping and praying that's him hoping Allen or Anderson are ready to go OR he wants to see how much Barkley has grasped on the offense so far. In the end, I don't think Peterman is on the roster after the bye. ?

Losses would be fine if we knew Allen were playing and getting better. Or if he weren't playing, if we knew he had a capable QB coach/guru and/or savvy vet QB with the team who could help him get better. There would be positives to take away from that. Right now our situation is legitimately starting to look like McDermott might (deservedly...?) end up getting fired at the end of the season having stuck with Peterman through all the crap. As long as McDermott puts Allen back in as soon as he's healthy enough to play and doesn't keep trying to shovel his bloodlines of Peterman and/or Anderson down our throats the rest of the season, I'm good with Losses. Losses like yesterday are impossible to swallow.

Barkley would be better than Peterman... even with the little amount of time he's had with us.

Obviously not "or 3rd" if the team traded McCarron away. As for "finishing 2nd" in the QB competition, that's true, but only in the eyes of our Head Coach, who clearly has pretty crappy eyes for evaluating QBs.... I like him otherwise, but he's total crap there. And don't forget his "oh *****!!! I've made a huge mistake!!!!" moment that came in the VERY FIRST HALF OF THE FIRST GAME. Peterman won the QB competition in McDermott's eyes because McDermott was pretty stupidly evaluating play in preseason vanilla games rather than evaluating translatable skillsets to the regular season. For example, Peterman threw at least a pass a game in the preseason that should have been an interception, if not a pick-six. But the defenders in the preseason were preseason scrub defenders and couldn't hold onto the football, so those passes were dropped and (apparently) forgotten.

I thought the Bills would have kept Taylor for the year remaining he had on his contract for the very reason we were going to draft a future Franchise QB and McDermott is extremely conservative and would likely want to sit whoever that was. And if I had known we were planning on drafting, I probably would have bet money we would have kept Taylor for that reason, and I would have lost. Taylor would have covered a lot of blemishes on this offense, whatever you think of his passing. All that said, if we didn't trade Taylor, we never would have gotten Edmunds. So I'm still fine with that. But I'm not fine with the idea that McCarron was viewed as somehow a lateral move from what Taylor brought to the table as a vet. That part of this equation was ridiculous.

Right. To me, the mistake wasn't getting rid of McCarron and not bringing in a vet at all. It was bringing in McCarron rather than making a damn serious run at a grizzled vet who has had years of starting experience in the NFL. The reason I was saying over the Summer that Allen would win the QB competition week 1 (which he obviously would have if McDermott weren't a moron) had less to do with Allen than who he was up against. Nate Peterman... 1 INT for every 9 passes in his rookie year due, in part, to the lack of basic physical attributes necessary for an NFL QB. AJ McCarron... handful of NFL starts Josh Allen... the guy you traded up to #7 for. 6'5. 240 lbs. Athletic. Smart. Tough. Respected. Great teammate and leader. Strong arm. Allen was the obvious choice.

McCarron just blows. Tyrod would have at least survived a bit and maybe kept the offense alive with his legs. But Allen should have gotten all the reps considering we traded Taylor and our other options at QB.

We had Nate Peterman, who is awful, was awful and always will be awful (but is apparently related to McDermott), AJ McCarron, who was our supposed "vet QB" with a mere handful of NFL starts in his career, and the 6'5, 240 lb, athletic, smart, rocket armed rookie you just traded up to draft at #7. How the friggin hell do you not just make the OBVIOUS choice... and Allen WAS the OBVIOUS choice of that brilliant trio. What pisses me off the most about this offseason is the stupid Summer QB competition that took valuable reps away from Allen when he was inevitably going to start very quickly based on what we had at QB. You allow him to get a bit more comfortable with his OL and his WRs. Maybe we win another game and see him progressing. Maybe he doesn't get injured. Who knows? (And yeah, sure, you could argue it could go the other way, but friggin Peterman and McCarron were the alternatives) Everyone likes to point to the Mahomes model in KC as the logic behind their thought process over the Summer, but if the Chiefs didn't have Alex Smith, Mahomes would have started year 1 and probably would have been just fine. Plus, our Alex Smith to start the season (for at least the 1st half of the 1st game ) was Nate Peterman because the guy it was supposed to be wound up sucking so much we traded him to the Raiders for a 5th. I hope this works out for McBeane because I like them, but everything, absolutely everything about how they handled the QB situation over the Summer was all wrong. And ya know what, it seems like it's all stemming from the same ridiculous conservatism that we see in McDermott's in-game coaching. All we can do is hope they got Allen right and save their butts that way. But for God's sake, can we just get Allen back so games are relatively interesting again and I'm not entertaining myself watching Peterman to the tune of Yakety Sax in my head? Once Allen is healthy and the UCL in his elbow is no longer at risk of getting worse if he plays, he needs to play.

Didn't we just do that? Amazed our D hasn't thrown in the towel this season.