transplantbillsfan

Jesus who is this #34fan and why does he hate Josh Allen, the Bills, and distort reality?

You and Foxx must be like best friends.... I guess curmudgeon stick together.

So you seem to acknowledge here that Palmer is a good teacher, but not a coach. Well, lucky for us he's actually coordinating with Allen's coach

I disagree strongly. Allen's greatest opportunity for improvement is a mastery of Daboll's offense, particularly in the short to intermediate passing game so he can make quick, decisive throws. Frankly the RBs, WRs and TEs just need to be able to catch the damn catchable passes that come to them.

Allen doesn't throw every ball 100 MPH, and disregarding the obvious hyperbole, he doesn't even throw every ball crazy fast. He could use more touch on occasion. That's all you need to say.

This I agree with. Allen's bigest problem isn't accuracy, it's consistently throwing it on time in the context of the offensive plays. He isn't choosing to hold onto the ball completely and not throw it, but he definitely hesitates. And not all the time, but enough where it's something he should be consciously working on this offseason. And I wonder if McDermott's comments on terminology and everything is an indication that maybe the Bills brass truly is kinda working under the table with a wink and a nod to work on subtle things like that.

Okey dokey so I finished up with Deshaun Watson's rookie season and pieced him into the picture of the 5 2018 rookies in the OP. Watching him only reinforces my feelings that this national dialogue of Allen being wildly inaccurate is bonkers. Gonna do some of the other notable rookies over the last half decade or so in the upcoming weeks. I'm gonna focus on only the rookies who have had GOOD rookie seasons, though, not the ones who were bleh and then picked it up in their 2nd years. So I'm not going to look at Goff or Trubisky. Sounds reasonable, right?

I don't know how we would bet on something like that, but I'd bet against it. I'm sure the #1 thing they're working on is consistency in his mechanics.

And coincidentally, Allen will only be a proficient passer if his WRs and TEs actually catch the passes Allen throws

Can you determine accuracy by watching a QB throw a ball to a wooden block moved around by a track of some sort that can't catch? Sure, accuracy and completion percentage are related to each other. That still doesn't mean completion percentage tells you how accurate a QB is.

Only 2 more games left to go with Watson, which I'll probably get to tomorrow, but with most of his season done now, I have: Catchable pass % excluding Throwaways and Spikes: 76.3% Throwaway/Spike %: 4.1% Interceptable Pass %: 10.1% Catchable pass % excluding BOTH throwaways AND tipped/batted balls: 79.1% So right now he'd be just behind Mayfield in Catchable pass % and only better than Darnold in Interceptable pass %.

I don't think ball velocity was much of a problem. The complaint that Allen has no touch and puts too much into every pass is overblown, especially by the end of the season.

I decided I'm actually gonna go back to some previous high profile rookie QBs. I'm talking mainly the 1st rounders like this year, but I'm not gonna do guys who are busts like Paxton Lynch. But I will do some other guys who weren't 1st round picks but played a lot their rookie year and went on to be successful like Dak and (if I go that far back) Russell Wilson. I'm halfway through Deshaun Watson's rookie season. So far, Exluding Throwaways: Catchable pass %- 78.2% Throwaway/Spike %- 2.5% Interceptable pass %- 9% Catchable pass % excluding BOTH throwaways AND tipped/batted balls- 81.3% I'll update the OP as I finish each individual new QB's rookie season and fit it all together to see how Allen ranks in comparison to all those other rookie seasons. Watson as of now is a hair ahead of Allen in Catchable pass % but worse than him in Interceptable pass %.

Completion percentage and accuracy aren't the same thing, and you talked about them as though they are. Completion percentage involves the pass AND the catch. Accuracy JUST involves the pass. Allen's accuracy is fine by NFL standards, not just rookie standards, but as far as rookies go, he's actually good.

No. His completion percentage is mainly because of his incompetent offensive weapons. Allen's accuracy was what you see from a typical 1st round NFL rookie QB.

I will always personally expect to see him revert on occasion throughout his entire career. Allen's not a QB who's ever going to be PERFECTLY CONSISTENT in his accuracy... but the key is to get him to be as consistent as he can possibly be, and the fact that he's out in Cali working with a guy who obviously helped him mechanically from College to the pros should be really, really encouraging. I really kinda would love to draft JA, the Kentucky version, just for entertainment purposes.

I really think the continuity of Daboll with McDermott is huge and I really, really hope Daboll is already grooming his inevitable replacement if Allen and the offense look good next year because he'll get a Head Coaching gig. The Patriots have benefited so damn much from the consistency of their Coordinators year after year after year. It's another reason to hate them.

Allen certainly needs to work on his mechanics for consistency's sake this offseason and it''s really promising that he's taking it upon himself to do it, but his accuracy was actually pretty darn good for a rookie QB. If you actually watch all the rookie QB seasons, the guy who really needs to work on his accuracy this offseason is Josh, but Rosen, not Allen.

Jackson didn't mention Darnold working with Palmer, but I know Allen and Darnold are pretty tight at least. I think they were at some video game convention or something competing against each other. I stand corrected. Thank you!

Well, we need OL, WR and TE, and I see all those positions in our general vicinity. So that's good. If Josh Jacobs is really that good and falls to us, I really won't be surprised if we draft him... But that's a dark horse pick.

and McDermott is not only aware of it, he's good with it (some weird typos in this quote): https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/22/josh-allen-offseason-plans-buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott/amp/#click=https://t.co/Pvc3Fkqp3O “We respect and trust what Jordan (Palmer) does out there. And certainly… understand Josh’s relationship and trust with Jordan, I think that relationship is a good one,” McDermott said. “I think it’s important that (players) work with the right people,” McDermott added. “We’ll be in tough with Jordan and make sure we’ll in sync with stuff as much as possible in terms of terminology, technique, things that we feel like he’ll need to work on. Josh already went out there equipped with much of that when he left Buffalo.”

I also thought this was really interesting since I wouldn't even be able to begin to attempt identifying base defenses:

Interesting article on improvements over the season from empty sets along with other notes on just how abysmal our offensive weapons have been https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/21/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-offense-analysis-empty-formation-brian-daboll-2018-receivers-running-backs-snap-counts/ Offense analysis: Josh Allen's improvement seen in empty formations Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll said Allen’s improvement in understanding protections during the four weeks he was out due to injury, helped him run empty sets more effectively. “When you line up in a spread out formation it does a few things,” Daboll said. “One, it puts stress on your line if you’re going to hold it a little bit because now usually you don’t have some double edges there to help. Two, it allows him to see the field and expand the defense." ... The Bills ran empty sets on 7.8 percent of plays overall in 2018 and 16.7 percent of their plays the last six weeks. That would be about the league lead for a full season. In 2017, Arizona led the NFL in using empty sets 17 percent of plays, and the league average was 8 percent. Running a lot of empty sets on third-and-long situations becomes problematic, because against good pass-rush teams the quarterback often gets hit before the receivers reach the first-down sticks. The Bills went empty on 5.6 percent of plays in 2017, and Tyrod Taylor had much less production than Allen. Taylor was 18 for 39 for 160 yards and ran seven times for 46 yards. ... Late-season improvement ... WR shortfall ... Worst RB production ever ... First-down improvement ... Snap counts

Well, running is about the only way Allen could be successful with this ragtag OL and WRs Hopefully we give him some guys who can catch the damn ball.