BullBuchanan

I'm happy for you, honestly. Sadly many aren't having that experience.

That scenario is outside of the scope of the reason for testing. I already laid out why you do it in my original post. Either read it or don't, but I'm not going to explain it all over again.

I solve problems for a living. It's my profession. When they hit core business they're solved in hours, days and weeks - not months, years or never. If Trump was on my team, he'd never make it out of the probationary window.

Germany has tests, South Korea has tests. The answer is simple. America is a third world country in a Gucci belt and Trump is Putin in drag.

Too bad he hired a guy who fired the people that could have informed him in 2018 and then fired that guy.

Where are the tests? Why do I know likely positive people that have not been confirmed and who will never truly know when they're no longer infected?

You repeatedly referenced the deep state trying to rig the election against Trump and failing. You called me out in a thread over it.

My solution requires picking up the phone and saying " hey we need you to produce these tests that are probably really similar to the ones you already do. Experts from Bayer will be in touch by End of Day. Your solution requires re-establishing a local, state, and federal government. And after that's all done, I still don't buy the notion that it would solve the problem where my version 100% will and could have been done 11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 weeks ago, today, tomorrow or any day thereafter until we're all dead.

Who cares? It is that way, has been as long as I've been alive, and that's the reality I live in, not the one you think should be.

Our state and especially local government are largely toothless. It's a mayor's job to make sure people get paid and the bike lanes go in the right spot. It's not their job to manage a crisis. The federal government soaks up all the cash and thus has all the power.

Whatever regulations you think there are can be dropped or reduced as many have during all of this. Again, Germany already did it. All we had to do was follow their lead. Germany has no problem with state run healthcare. They still have private big pharma companies like Bayer that did what we couldn't. Another shining example of America #1.

If you think big pharma can't produce an existing test for a disease, you should probably short all of their stock.

I'm excited to see the next thing you pivot to. This is like fish in a barrel.

The first week or the first 10 weeks? Ask germany: https://www.ft.com/content/6a8d66a4-5862-4937-8d53-b2d10794e795 "German laboratories are conducting more than 50,000 coronavirus tests a day, according to data released on Wednesday which laid bare differences in strategy and capacity across Europe. "

Leverage the pharmaceutical companies like Germany did? Johnson & Johnson — New Brunswick, NJ. Pfizer — New York City, NY. Merck & Co. — Kenilworth, NJ. AbbVie Inc. — Lake Bluff, IL. Bristol-Myers Squibb — New York City, NY. Eli Lilly and Company — Indianapolis, IN. Biogen — Cambridge, MA. Abbott Laboratories — Lake Bluff, IL.

Because that would deflate the argument

And?

You don't like the SK example - got an excuse for that, don't like the Germany example, - got an excuse for that, don't like the UAE example - got an excuse for that. What example would you like? Israel, Japan? What other country has 330M people, is bordered by only two countries on the same continent and has the land mass that we have? Your argument, or lack thereof is pathetic.

Why because the chart shows raw numbers? you can't ignore those and simply look at growth curves? There aren't ready made charts with the data you're looking for, but if we use our knowledge about the size of various countries we can ballpark other points.

Ratios are ratios. Either they are climbing or they are not. Most of europe is stabilizing or growing at a reduced rate than we are. Ignore the overall numbers. You're cherry-picking which data is allowed and which isn't and I'm using the data as presented. The countries that test the most have the high rates of stopping the virus from spreading and stopping the virus from killing. Ignore it if you want, but you cant change the facts.

Go to church.

Oh ok, so now the data doesn't work because percentages aren't apples to apple because our country is bigger. I can't find the data charted per capita and I dont have time to make it myself. i did the math manually per capita for several of them. You people constantly move the goal posts on every discussion. News Flash: there is no country just like ours. There are a lot of reasons for the UAE's numbers to be higher than ours including the fact that they are so small. We have a lot of advantages in this crisis and are falling or already behind countries without them. You're getting less fact-based and more defensive with each response. The data is all there. I can supply it and explain it, but I can't understand it for you.

The UAE is doing well so far. Right now 0.06% of our population is infected compared to 0.006% of theirs They are also one of the world leaders in testing. The bad thing is that the spread in Europe has been slowing while ours has been increasing. We're about to fall way behind countries we have a slight edge on today. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/

Clearly not. There's no hidden meaning in my statements. You can take them as literal without any fear of subtext.

Social distancing is also a great tool, but it's secondary to testing as just about everyone has a need to at least go to the grocery store, many people have to go to the pharmacy and unfortunately some people have to go to work.