BullBuchanan

Pro-Authoritarian, Pro-War, Pro-Nationalism, Anti-Immigration, Xenophobic just like your would-be kings.

The rightists values are pulled straight from Germany circa 1940.

Doctors and nurses and essential workers aren't getting sick and dying because of a lack of PPE? Might want to inform them of that.

There's a reason it's called the Trump Virus and not the Cuomo Virus. If Trump hadn't refused to give NY the life-saving supplies it needed, a lot of those people would probably be alive instead of in a mass-grave. Rightists are nothing if not ignorant.

That's a completely separate scale. This one is based on values.

These two theoretical people sound an awful lot like the same person.

Again, you're walking around with a suspect looking for a crime and no motive. It's a symbiotic relationship. The spook doesn't exist without the government and its associated war machine, and every president pays the toll.

You asked why they were separate so...?

That's a false equivalency. I believe politicians are susceptible to bribes and corruption, and their election cycles are but ensure that vulnerability. They do favors for corporations and then they get kickbacks while in office and/or when they get out. The FBI/CIA/NSA etc serve at the pleasure of the President. They aren't up for re-election, don't have to worry too much about doing favors for corporations because congress does that for them, and at any level other than the absolute top it's a guaranteed career job with great benefits and a pension. To suppose that they actively work against their presidents without cause or obvious benefit requires an Olympian level of mental gymnastics. They get to do whatever they want, with infinitely increasing funds with full support of congress and the President. What could they possibly gain?

That's exactly my point. Democrats are not left wing. That's where all this talk in America breaks down. It's been the Center-right vs the Extreme right since at least the 60's. Anyone to the left of it gets called a communist.

If you actually understood NeoLiberalism, you'd know it's been the core GOP platform since Nixon. Democrats have often publicly tried to oppose it, but they themselves actually govern in most of the same ways. The only real difference is how they sell it, and sometimes they use lube.

Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump - all NeoLiberals or the economic right of the last ~75 years. Sure, some have been theocratic, some have been secular. Some were highly intelligent, others not so much. Some were articulate and others unintelligible. Some were charismatic and others were dull. Some have run as populists and others were more mainstream, but at the end of the day they all adhered to the master of the market, the darling of 20th and 21rst century conservatives. Obama ran as a populist, but when it came time for him to govern, he still gave the banks the money they asked for, the intelligence agencies the power they asked for, and the military the weapons they asked for. Just like Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton and now Trump. All it takes is mixing in a bit of religion or some safety net reforms to make someone a Republican or a Democrat these days, but under that exterior, most of them are still built on the same chassis.

Where's the shadow government undermining the legislative, judicial and executive branches of government at the same time?

Outsourcing is separate from wages because it's fought for by lobbyists, subsidized by kickbacks, and enabled by congress and the executive branch. Outsourcing would still be something that would happen regardless of labor costs, because it's a lot more complex than that. You can solve the automation problem without solving the outsourcing one and vice versa. They aren't tied at the hip.

I heard that was Fake News because But then I get confused because

I'm suggesting that Bolton should not have been allowed to fire the US Pandemic Response Team without replacing them, and that the people in charge of our nationally security forces uses their unlimited budgets to differentiate fact from fiction. The problem with looking at this without pointing fingers, is that one political administration is directly responsible for the fallout.

Once we agree we can accept some responsibility we can look to see who should be accountable.

I want us to accept some accountability. I know these days that comes off as a hard partisan line.

First true thing I've ever heard you say

Yes, but also our own.

That would be a fair point, if we were coming at this cold, but we're not. China not wanting to appear weak, or need assistance should be so well known, that we should be more harsh with internal experts that don't understand that cultural identity than we should be with china for having it at this point. We should hold subject matter experts accountable to actually be experts. That includes anticipating disinformation and a lack of transparency.

Another 485 Benghazi's yesterday and over 360 already today.

"President Trump said Tuesday that he did not learn of two memos written in January and February by his own economic adviser warning that a COVID-19 pandemic could kill as many as 2 million Americans until “maybe a day ago.” “I heard he wrote some memos talking about pandemic,” Trump said during a White House coronavirus task force briefing, “I didn’t see them. I didn’t look for them, either.”" https://news.yahoo.com/trump-adviser-warned-of-millions-of-coronavirus-deaths-back-in-january-trump-says-he-only-saw-the-memo-this-week-005304311.html

And why were we in a position where information from a country that we declared economic and politcial war against is our best resource for our own defense? Should we not have maintained the scientists we had that could have done independent analysis? What about the trillion dollars we spend on defense and national security? Why wasn't the CIA involved?

Those two things are mutually exclusive.