Drunken Pygmy Goat

The Bills aren't on the same level as the Cheats or the Chiefs, and the Texans are possibly a notch better overall, but get in the tourney, and anything can happen. Thing is, the way the Bills schedule is set up, they should have enough wins piled up over the next 5-6 games to only need another win or two to get in. And if they end up with 11 or 12 wins, they'll have earned that by beating some tough teams down the stretch, and that will be a huge confidence boost going into January. That also (likely) means that Allen has improved enough between now and then, and is limiting his turnovers. If that's the case, the Bills can certainly make a run. But, there's a lot of football between now and then, and anything can happen.

Or its a head start Dolphins technically next If Bills lose I quit

The bye week blues has officially hit me. I love football, and will watch other games, but it still sucks going 2 weeks without a Bills game. It's not quite like the offseason on the boards, but it's as close as we'll get to it until the Bills season officially ends, and I'm sure we'll beat a couple dead horses over the next several days. How about some haiku fun to pass the time? It can be a basic breakdown of the team so far, something funny, **Pats hate, etc. This board has plenty of witty posters, so why not? I'll start: Jones had his fair share Fifth in two years is a steal Beane is a wizard

Even then, I wait 5 seconds to make sure there's no yellow hankey on the carpet.

SF is definitely a top team. If not for some flukey TOs, they destroy PIT. They had 5 and still won. Their my "2nd" team. They would have been decent last year if not for a TON of critical injuries. Silver lining was they found out about Breida, and landed Bosa. I said before the season that if they stay healthy, their floor is 10 wins. They look really strong and deep, and can beat any team in the league.

When Darnold comes back (is Mosley back?), they'll be a .500 ish team. Much better than their current record indicates, anyways. Maybe. Their first half schedule is brutal.

To he fair to Fitz, he had a bit of "gamer" in him. He just didn't have the arm, or weapons to go with it. Not that he was ever going to be a top QB or anything, but any QB that intentionally hits a DB instead of going out of bounds earns points in my book.

We certainly need better from the punter, consistency wise, but who else out there can replace him and be an upgrade. The Bills gave hon some competition this summer, and he won the job. I'm not necessarily saying there isn't someone better, I'm seriously curiois. But if there is someone, I think the Bills would have brought him in by now.

The officials were shoddy, thats for sure. Two players side by side CLEARLY false start, yet encroachment is called, and it led to a TD. Milano holding call was garbage. And Milano was CLEARLY HELD on the 20+ yard Henry run, with Henry running right past them, yet no flag.

Confidence is a big deal when it comes to developing a young QB. And when you have a gamer type QB, you trust him enough to get the job done when it matters.

Same here

I'm with you. I was pretty mad at the call. QB sneak/draw is great in certain situations, anthe **Pats have done it for years with Brady...but not on 4th and almost 2. I wanted them to take the FG, but after lining up, was hoping for some misdirection or jet sweep there.

I like that approach against all teams except for NE. With how well our dedense fares against their offense, just manage the game and run the ball. Keep it close, limit giveaways, and you give yourself a real shot to win. Granted, the Bills did pretty much the opposite last week and still had a good chance in the end, but perhaps without those giveaways, they play with a lead at home againt them.

I see it both ways. As nice as it is that the Bills are winning right now, they probably aren't winning a Super Bowl this year. Even if they make the playoffs, they need crawl before they walk. The Bills under JA have zero playoff experience. Perhaps part of the pass-happy mentality is to focus more on getting Josh the reps and experience now in the passing game, so that he is better for it down the road, and sooner rather than later as a result (as frustrating as it may be at times, because it isn't always working). Lets face it, he still has a long way to go before we consider him a prolific passer. He's improving in certain aspects, and aside from last week, the Bills have been able to overcome whatever shortcomings the Bills have had in the passing game. Maybe part of the thought process is that, because they have such a good defense, they can afford to be aggressive in their offensive play calling. Either it's going to work and the Bills will start pulling away, or it doesn't work and the defense will bail them out, and 4th quarter Josh will step up and do just enough...WHILE he's still learning.

Wasn't that in the first half? (I was pissed too tho) True, but that was with worse teams and a stronger conference. AFC is pretty so-so this year, record wise. Plus, the Bills schedule is pretty favorable this go round.

I was born in WNY, whole family from there. We moved to Florida just before I turned 5. The Bills were already pretty good then. Being so far from home, watching Bills games made us feel "at home". And being good, they were on TV here a lot, especially since the Jaguars didn't exist until 1995.

I'm not one to ever question a person's famdom, as there are no rules to how or why. My earliest memory was the 51-3 thrashing of the Raiders when I was 6. Been a fan ever since

Hindsight opinion. Flutie likely would have been better, but the Titans have a much different defensive gameplan if Flutie plays. We'll never know the answer...

Eat them now, and you may never have a stiffy again.

If you believe in destiny, you think the "Music City Miracle" was meant to be, after the comeback game. I used to believe in destiny, but I'm still not rich... I am now a firm believer in karma and free will. Maybe the Bills got help in the comeback game (Beebe TD), and maybe the Titans got help in the MMM game, but karma played more of a rile than destiny. The Bills were seeing the effects of their own causes unfolding. Sure, we can say that we don't know how that game goes with Flutie at QB, and we can argue about how good or not good that Flutie was, but one thing he had that RJ didn't was elusiveness and escapability. Perhaps he fares better under pressure than RJ did that day (and pretty much every day), and has a little Flutie magic left in him. Maybe with Flutie, the Bills have a bigger lead, and a miraculous comeback would have been needed from the Titans, as opposed to one single play. If that were the case, and the Titans did it, maybe I would still believe in destiny. Either way, the Bills were lying in the bed that they had made.

I was a month shy of 16 myself. Watched the game with 2 good friends (Fins and Jags fans). What I recall from that game was that RJ was terrible (IIRC, he got the start against the Colts the week prior and the Bills blew them out...possibly the worst possible outcome besides a loss, since RW was so insistent on playing the QB that they highly-invested in, and that score helped the decision to play him over Flutie), but the defense was good, but put in a tough spot by the offense (QB) that day. Even still, the Bills did enough on offense to take a late lead. As for the "miracle" at the end...I've always thought it was a forwars pass, or at least not a true backwards lateral, but there really wasn't enough "conclusive" evidence to overturn. I've had several non-biased fans tell me that it was a good lateral, and while I still have never been fully convinced, it's enough for me to live with the call (what choice do we have?). It was a roller coaster of emotion. When Christie made the kick, I jumped out of my chair and continued jumping with my arms up in celebration. After taking a late lead in a game that, in all honesty, the Bills offense didn't really deserve to win, the team as a whole did enough to give them a chance, and was suddenly staring victory in the face. It was a different Bills team than what I had grown accustomed to seeing as a younger child in the early 90s (even though Reed and Smith were still there), but the feeling was back. I'm reminded of a quote from a commentator (Dierdorff?) from a Bills/Raiders playoff game in 93 or 94. It was like -15 that day, yet Hostettler and the Raiders had a considerable lead for much of the game. The Bills started making plays and made it a game, and he said something like "If there's one thing we know about the Bills, it's that you can never, ever, count them out"...a reference to the comeback game, among others by those early 90s teams. The Bills had just recaptured some of that in Nashville. Then the "miracle" happened, and I went from pure elation, to literally falling to the floor in heartbreak in front of the friends that watched me celebrate prematurely (which I'm sure was a bit amusing to them, even though they knew the "pain" I just suffered). And as painful as that play was to watch, and then have to try and get over, the ensuing 17 years of playoff-less Bills football far exceeds thst pain IMO. Little did we know at that time, but that game and that play was truly the beginning of the end for what was overall a great decade of Bills football. Fitting that the game was played in early 2000. Since then, a lot of fans have said with conviction that that call prevented the Bills from a Super Bowl, but I never felt that way. Sure, the defense was great that year, but I always believed that there were at least 2 or 3 teams in the AFC that were better overall. And with what was going on upstairs in Buffalo that year, it was bound to unravel. Discord between head coach and owner, a QB controversy that was forced, older players from the glory years getting burnt out...there was too much going on with that team away from the field to overcome the offensive shortcomings that would have inevetebly persisted in the field woth RJ at QB, great defense and all. Interestingly enough, we are currently wondering if our offense and special teams can improve enough to the point where our great defense won't be "wasted". Fortunately, there is far more competence and collectiveness upstairs now than there was back then. It is up to the players now (and Daboll), as there appears to be no level of discord going in away from the field. That is the difference between a "miracle" and 17 ensuing years of no playoffs, and a new HC breaking the drought in what was perceived to be a tank year for the Bills by outsiders (and many Bills fans as well...).

I think the head hitting the turf may have been the worst of it. The helmet to helmet was in the facemask area. Allen's helmet hit the turf on the side/rear. But as far as being "out cold", Josh was reaching his arms for a lift from teammates pretty soon after the play, but (I assume) the trainers shut that down and made him stay on the ground.

Gruden is getting a tough rep and is taking the heat for the Redskins' woes, and it's more the fault of people above him. His seat may be hot, but I don't think it's truly warranted. That said, getting axed by the Skins might be the best thing for him.