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Ridiculous poll. As Bills fans we want Peterman or whoever is in there to succeed. No one is going to cry in their beer if NP throws for 290 yards and three TDs with no picks. Most fans know by now the odds of this happening are small, and would prefer to see just about any QB out there but Peterman on Sunday.

I agree on Robiskie. He has 37 years of experience in the NFL, including OC of better offenses than Daboll. That’s a low bar, and some of that experience was really a different age of NFL offense. However , Daboll should be gone when the bye week rolls around. Maybe TR will realize that you have to throw on first down a fair amount of the time. In the offseason a sweeping overhaul will be required on the offensive side. I don’t see McD making the necessary changes to save his job, but perhaps he will surprise.

Ahhh, yet again the old chestnut about hindsight. I’ve said a million times, NFL executives / coaches et al are paid huge dollars to have foresight. Excusing away errors in the name of hindsight is fanboy stuff. As for your Pats analogy, the answer is a flat NO. The drunkard owner Kraft is married to Tommy boy until he decides to stop playing. No one knows when that will be. The Pats* already had the guy Belichick felt he could win a lot of games with going forward. He lost the power struggle and was forced to trade Garappolo to San Francisco. Belichick has always been unsentimental about players; he only cares about winning post Brady to further his legacy. While other teams passed on drafting Mahomes before the Bills did, some of those teams had QBs. Several had been to the playoffs and even a Super Bowl with their current QB situation. The Bills braintrust not taking a shot with a dire need at QB was foolish. The draft is a crapshoot, but need at the most important position dictated taking their chance while the cost was known. At just a single first round pick, the cost wasn’t getting any lower. They decided to put it off until the next draft. The maxim that applies here is the one about a bird in hand being worth two in the bush, not the played out excuse regarding hindsight.

This^ McD and Beanes inability to judge QB talent have left them an odd conundrum . They have a QB that is the best prepared to play, but they don’t want to play him because they’ve realized ( I think) he doesn’t have the talent to do so. Anderson has been predictably lackluster, but he has an NFL arm. He’s made throws that Peterman is incapable of making vs starting caliber CBs. Anyone who saw his backbreaking pick six vs HOU knows this. Peterman’s read wasn’t the issue. That ball had zero chance of reaching its target and lacked NFL zip. Peterman can make some throws over the middle and safe red zone plays like a corner fade that has minimal chance of an INT. It’s pretty easy to see why they’d be scared to death to start Peterman again, and it’s not the media. They’ve tried to minimize their mistake and would probably like to save face by not releasing him. The whole thing has blown up on them, and now they’re back to having to put the pick-man back on the field. He’ll likely be injured or benched by halftime vs the Bears.

It’s a valid question. The County had an opportunity to do this 5 or 6 years ago, but opted to half-step and do a much smaller scale “ reno”. Window dressing ,really. The uncertain future of the team was probably a factor, but the cost of a full renovation has probably increased substantially.

Always thought the whatchamacallit was very underrated.

So by seasons end, Brian Daboll will be the OC of the two worst NFL offenses since 2010 and probably worse. Coincidence? I hope the Bills get a real OC for 2019 to go along with a bunch of new players. I though Daboll was an uninspired hire at best, but he makes Dennison look good.

Beane and McD were looking for a QB that was similar to Peterman , in case of injury.

Not too shabby... with 216 attempts I’d project Peterman would have around 24 INTs...so he’s got that going for him. Which is nice.

Many players do. Heck Bruce Smith took a little time to get it together. Bills should have kept Watkins. He’d be the primary weapon on this team.

They’re pretty good. Not the Steel curtain or anything but pretty solid. NE certainly wasn’t going to take unnecessary risks because they didn’t require that many points to win. Your point is somewhat valid there. Most teams aren’t New England. If the Bills had a decent offense they’d be a wild card contender.

Maybe, but the Bills had options to keep him in the fold. The one they were certainly going to lose because he wanted to go back to Cali was Robert Woods. No fifth year option and franchising him would have been ludicrous. He was a goner for sure. SW could have been kept, plain and simple.

I don’t care how much they are paying or have paid Peterman. I don’t want to see him play QB for the Bills ever again. Go ahead and sign someone, then play them. The money is truly irrelevant.

Right? I remember SW saying he wanted to be a Bill for life while he was still here. A lot of fiction out there now.

Agreed. There’s no reason the Bills cannot be a similarly built team to the Steelers or even Kansas City. Green Bay et al. Those teams throw it plenty. Buffalo doesn’t = we need to play 1970’s football and hide our QB. Troubling indeed.

They’re even worse...

Any deals today will go right up to the deadline.

Yeah, as the wing goes this was an all out travesty. I saw one shot of Duffs on a return from commercial break but that’s it. Sellouts to the almighty $$

The next step should be hiring a good OC and QB coach. I have my doubts this will happen.

Sadly, he’d be the best WR on this team immediately upon arrival. Man, they suck.

Any QB will probably benefit from not playing in year one. Coaching, learning how to watch gamefilm etc is obviously helpful. At some point you have to play. You’re just not giving individual talent enough credit here. Smith with years of experience was unable to come close to Mahomes performance with largely the same cast. Some players are good and others are just great, at a completely different level. I doubt Josh Allen would be doing a Mahomes impression if he were in KC and sat a year. Four or five extra games sitting on the bench didn’t make Mahomes what he is today.

Worst thing is, going against his ex boss Belichick you’d expect he bring his best. If last night was Daboll’s best- limited cast and all- the Bills are in even worse shape than we thought.

Nowhere did I compare McD to Reid. Just pointed out that McD received a fair amount of criticism for making a decision most HCs wouldn’t make. Reid would be in the majority here. To think Mahomes became great through some sort of osmosis is just silly. Even Reid would admit he couldn’t have foreseen all time record setting success. Even when asked about about it he laughed and jokingly said “ sure, of course “. I don’t think he was just being self deprecating. You won’t be convinced, but your hypothesis doesn’t hold water.

Right! You know , Mahomes would have been awful if he was wearing blue. Can you imagine if he had to wear blue?

I doubt this. Very few HCs ( McDermott) will bench an established starter for a rookie during a playoff push. Mahomes was raw and shouldn’t have started right away, but there were reports of him even struggling in camp this year. Bottom line; there are some things even the most well trained eye cannot envision. Reid is a great offensive mind, but sometimes a player is better than you could ever imagine.