Boatdrinks

This^^^. Besides , sitting a guy down just doesn’t happen in the NFL at the QB position. If you do this ( outside of injury) then you are done with that guy being the QB of your team. That’s just how it is, and won’t change. The Bills aren’t at that point, nor should they be. Not now. Most of Josh’s wounds were self inflicted. He has to learn to not take negative plays. If he doesn’t, he won’t play here or anywhere in the NFL for very long.

The Bengals aren’t very good, but lots of teams have “ packed it in “ over the years. Their HC seems like he’s in over his head, and players probably know it. The NFL is a pretty closed society and all p,Ayers want to hit FA and possibly cash in. All teams have pro personnel depts and they know who everyone is. Most rosters have lots of lower priced players who can play. It’s not just superstars that change teams. These players all want to be like NBA players and call all the shots. Teams run for the bus every year. Look at Miami. Obviously it doesn’t work like that. The Bills could beat the Bengals and then the Bengals could win at SEA. Fans just love to overreact, and think that if you lose a game then the other team is X amount of points better than you.

This is a fair statement. They are a newly overhauled offensive team that has 4 new OL out of 5, 2 new WRs and two rookie TE’s. The QB has 15 starts ( most of which were behind an inferior OL with few good WR targets. They still lack an elite WR. The offense is a work in progress at best, and many players are in their first year of it.

Maybe the Steelers are just better than the Bills in all areas.

It’s a long way off, and could be very meaningful for the Bills ( or not) but just because Ben is out doesn’t mean it’ll be a cakewalk. That franchise has a ton of pride, and I can only recall the Bills winning at PIT once as a franchise.

Bengals still had some fight in BUF at 0-2. They look like they’ve packed it in at this point. Steelers pass rushers are pretty legit.

It helps when you get away with grounding calls routinely , too. Allen will not be afforded that luxury. Still he’s got more than enough arm strength to throw it into the stands, and needs to do so.

I agree. He needs to find a balance there. Still figuring things out and it’s a tough lesson for him now. A throwaway is a good play, and a punt is better than a turnover from forcing a pass. Especially with the Bills defense.

He does, but of course he didn’t know when he would be wrapped up. He thought he could outrun them or break their tackle attempts. If he knew he would get wrapped up he’d probably have decided to slide.

And they’ve won no games this season.

No one, and the rest of the story is the worst thing that has ever happened to the NFL, at least in my lifetime.

It would look unbearably , mind numbingly stupid , that’s how. Even more than the normal amount. I’m almost glad it didn’t , even though I don’t think it would have changed a thing as far as the actual team goes. There is an idiotic segment of fans ( probably of any team ) that loves backup QBs and prefers less talented players to starters. Seems abnormally high with Buffalo fans though.

They may have done that if he had. He was definitely in the moment. It’s a tough situation for sure, and he still has to learn when to say when. I’d say he’ll likely always err a bit on the side of dangerous, even when he tones it down.

Ben R also threw very limited passes per game that year. It’s also possible that JA could lead the Bills to a WC berth in his first full season as starter. Lots of football left to go before any decision is made on this guy. Every player is different, and it really doesn’t matter if fans believe in him from the jump. They’re not making the decisions, and that’s probably a very good thing.

Somewhat concerned, but he’s a big guy and seems pretty sturdy. He’s made a lot of big plays like that and they’re exciting. It’s a fine line, and the NFL doesn’t do a lot to protect QBs that aren’t among the anointed ones.Look at the shots Newton has been subjected to. I get it, but I also love his competitive fire and don’t want that going out of his game. I want him to hate losing, especially to NE. It’s a whole other level of hate for that team. He wasn’t running the whole time with his head down either.

This babble doesn’t mean squat either, though. The Bills HC and brass will ultimately decide if Allen is their guy , or they will get someone else. Crusading on a message board won’t do a damn thing in this regard. Fans won’t have any part in the decision really. It’s as pointless as stats of other QBs current or past. Doesn’t have a thing to do with Josh Allen or the Bills.

I think much of it will be the same regardless of the QB. Neither has a ton of experience. They won’t have to worry about Barkley hurting them outside the pocket or extending plays. The Bills OL had problems in pass pro, and TEN will throw a lot of the stuff that worked for NE at them.

Hey, I hope you’re right. I want my gut feeling to be absolutely wrong in this case.

Sliding wasn’t going to get the first down. There’s a time to slide and that wasn’t it. A cheap hit doesn’t mean you don’t fight for a key first down.

Obviously 4 turnovers a game cannot continue. It will be the end of JA if it does so no use in worrying. He will be replaced if it does. If the Bills HC and GM are ok with his progress, that’s what matters. Winning games matters most. Even with his mistakes, It was very possible that Allen pulls that game out. I didn’t get that sense with Barkley, but that’s just me. Anyway, it’s hardly shocking he had a bad outing vs a BB defense. If you had asked NFL media types if they would be surprised if Allen had his worst game to date in yesterday’s matchup, they invariably would have said “ not at all”. His track record vs young QBs is great. Allen absolutely needs to cut way down on the unforced errors. Throw it away, and live to fight another down.

Have you listened to sports talk radio, watched NFLN or ESPN ? They are unabashedly gushing over NE on a daily basis. They’re wrong, but they are saying it.

Yep, the guy took zero risks. Not in his game; Allen is just the opposite. Way more common in Kelly - Marino era. Many of the hits they took are no longer legal by rule. There wasn’t a “ strike zone” for QBs and defenders helmets would hit them in the chinstrap. Totally different game then.

THIS DOESN’ T NEED. ITS OWN THREAD

Cool, I’m glad you’re relived. No, not really.

Just my opinion. This is a fan message board. Don’t have to like or agree with it.