Boatdrinks

Yep, and there was probably no keeping it out. Which state had the first confirmed case in and why didn’t the governor lockdown and contact trace/ test ? Probably a lost cause by that time but who knows ? A lot of blame shifting going on and refusal to admit the reality that this virus isn’t going anywhere.

Personally, I am not a fan. He’s often vague and relatively dismissive when any questions about reopening anything is brought up. It’s always not enough testing, or we need more antibody testing in more areas of the county, or cases remain steady etc. Of course as testing increases, so do cases. His timeline on the curve, peak whatever constantly shifts, as do the goalposts. Flattening the curve has morphed into “ when its safe” or avoiding the second wave. He’s in lockstep with Cuomo, as far as I can tell.

It has kept numbers down for now, but we also know that the virus is going to be around. Waiting for things to be “ safe” isn’t an option. Continued social distancing practices of some type and even continued self isolation by choice for some would be best going forward imo.

While that’s not spread casually ( as we know) I agree. Polio has been brought up in some threads. I wasn’t around during the time of Polio , but I’m pretty certain there were sporting events, restaurants, bars etc. Current generations have largely been shielded from infectious illnesses, and that seems to have led to mindless panic and governmental overreach in some places.

If it’s an ask and not a requirement I’m all for it. I won’t begrudge anyone exercising their personal choice, whatever that is.

I agree steadfastly with your position. I also wish you the best of health and good fortune.

Dangerous territory. Simply existing in an area should not be considered an act of intent vs someone else’s health. Individual rights stand above all. No one has a right to perfect health. Vagaries of nature exist. Someone can get influenza and die; they certainly got it from someone else. Again not saying this is influenza, but the idea is the same. We must take ultimate responsibility for our own health, even if that means avoiding certain situations for some people.

It is to me, and I wear a covering now only in protest. Face covering( not a mask) with various messages - I have a few of them. Also either a Trump hat or a **** Cuomo hat. Freedoms / rights should never be surrendered lightly imo.

If Lord Cuomo said it was okay, I’d go to a restaurant or sporting event tomorrow. I’ll get on a flight as soon as restrictions are lifted for travel to my favorite vacation Island . If there is more space between seats and more expensive tickets that’s fine. Not big on movie theaters, but I never have been. Couple times a year proposition for me, but others feel differently. Schools are probably okay now, but shelve it until the fall if they want to.

It’s too restrictive and we are not a society that wears face coverings. Personal choice is best.

It makes plenty of sense, and there’s no contradiction. Most individuals infected with Coronavirus will recover. A small percentage won’t,, others will need medical care. It’s largely based on your individual health factors and genetics. The people should be free to go about life, and incorporate the existence of a new virus into their overall risk assessment. People make these decisions every day of their lives to varying degrees. This is no different . Which business we patronize or activities we participate is up to the individual , and that is as it should be.

Masks should be optional in the USA. No one is going to sit in a restaurant to eat or go watch a game at a bar with a mask on, anyway. Those who wish to stay home or wear an N 95 mask can do so. Influenza is also contagious, so where does it stop ? The overwhelming majority of those who do get infected with Covid 19 will recover, and a large portion will have no symptoms. Personal responsibility and personal risk assessment win over trampling freedoms. Spacing is a reasonable concession for a time.

NYC is really it’s own state in many ways and needs to be treated differently. No one is driving from Flushing to West Seneca for a haircut.

We will see exactly what this means, I guess. With Cuomo , and to an increasing extent Poloncarz, I expect the worst. I’ll hope for the best, but neither one of them inspires much confidence. It’s pretty clear from the numbers ( actual results and not projections) that it’s largely an individual health issue. The governments role at this point should exclusively deal with maintaining capacity in the health care system, not restricting the rights of the people to go on with daily life.

Hare-brained comparison , as per usual.

I cannot think of one thing that would be better about America with a Biden as Prez. As for the LSM, it can and does work that way now. If you’re a lib, everything is spun around the progressive narrative. Literally every single thing they decide to talk about. Even sports aren’t free from their nonsense.

If a “ huge technology breakthrough “ = a long time, that idea should be jettisoned. We don’t have the luxury of time. The medical / health experts need to realize we are not looking at a perfect solution/ outcome here.

That would work for some businesses. For others that operate on small profit margins and need volume ( ie bars, restaurants) people should just have to use their own discretion and maybe even ppe if they choose. Otherwise, they should stay away from those establishments until treatments or a vaccine emerge.

Is this for real ? Then again, Blas is a complete moron.

With our media, I can imagine a nationwide panic over just about anything. Heck, Wuhan virus led to head scratching run on toilet paper of all things. Would a potential food shortage lead to an oversupply of TP ? I don’t know, but anything’s possible. I think they need to find a way to deal with any issues at meat processing plants, and certain items could be in short supply or see major price increases. It would have to be on a massive scale though, to cause significant food shortages. Maybe I’m off base, but I don’t see that as likely. Overreaction, however is expected at this point.

Makes sense to me. The shutdowns are far too extreme for the actual problem, creating a larger problem that is much worse. Some precautions and guidelines for those who will be around the most vulnerable should be the focus. Those who are somewhat more vulnerable than the healthy population should take personal precautions when indoors around larger groups of people. Flattening the curve appears to have been a success. It’s time to end the insanity ; the ridiculous notion that the government should trample individual rights to prevent anyone from contracting a virus.

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I would say no, because I think Trump supporters don’t have one unifying reason of why they like him. Not any single, unified reason. I’m not sure which Trump comment or statement you refer to , but for the most part I love seeing the overreaction and just how much a tizzy they work themselves into. It’s annoying that lots of people actually buy the response hook, line and sinker but still it’s entertaining. I love that Trump is unconventional and not PC. He puts these people in their place ! They’re arrogant and proselytizing, and should be talked down to so they can be seen for what they really are. He can ramble at times, which isn’t my favorite thing about his style but I love how combative he is with these LSM types.

I’d like to see more numbers on the % of hospitalized that have an underlying health issue. NYC numbers were striking. This is looking more like a personal/ individual health issue . Still potential to flood hospitals , but it seems like they’ve ramped up capacity to deal with it.

The left is okay with sexual abuse and assault, as long as it was committed by people they like. Being in power is more important.