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I said at wr And Julian Edelman doesn't even have 7000 yards he's not a Hall of Famer lol He's a slot receiver who got a much better career thanks to Tom Brady Tom Brady had good slot wide receivers.. he had two years with Randy Moss and never really had any big time outside receivers for most of his career

Tom Brady played with a bunch of jags for most of his career at WR Chris Hogan was a starting outside wide receiver for super bowl run

The NFL is a privilege not a right if that's your mindset you're already not going to be a long time successful receiver Sammy Watkins was always thinking about himself and he was one of the most talented players and didn't do nothing Josh Gordon went for 1700 yards with ghosts at quarterback with the Cleveland browns... Brian Thomas Jr is leading the NFL in drops and all of his metrics have significantly dropped I would trade for him but nobody in the NFL is going to trade a first round pick right now that's my only point I'm making It's not even going to take a first if they were going to trade him

Doesn't affect his catching.. he has the most drops in the NFL.. he has a very low yards per route ran His catch rate is significantly lower.. his efficiency numbers have plummeted to the bottom of the NFL Josh Gordon went for 1700 yards with ghosts at quarterback in Cleveland... BTJ is Super talented.. I'm not giving up a first round pick for those last 4 things I just said Now if he picked his game up from last year and they were trying to trade him.. yeah he'd be worth the first and probably more Significantly regressing I would give up picks , not a number one and I doubt anybody in the NFL is going to

Considering Clayton only had 55 targets.. and Brian Thomas Jr has 55 targets and less yards than what Clayton had on 55 targets... But if it's 7 yd it shows Target for Target they're right there Brian Thomas Jr is getting more chances in year two.. listen he was phenomenal last year nobody would want to give up a 22 year old wide receiver playing like that.. in my mind there just has to be something up

What happens if we trade that first round pick and he becomes worse of a flame out than Sammy Watkins Sammy Watkins has way more talent as a wide receiver and he floundered everything.. Why would this team be giving up a future All pro 23 games into his career? That's the biggest question.. he was this bonafide number one the jaguars wouldn't be running him out of town even with Travis Hunter because he's on a cheap rookie contract

I'm not in the jaguars locker room but if it's mental issues that's just as bad.. we already dealt with guys like Cyrus konjo running naked through the fields and Zay Jones fighting for Jesus because they had mental breakdowns Who knows what is going on

Considering as I said Michael Clayton had a better career in LSU... Had a higher pedigree and was drafted earlier.. basically went for 1200 yards and seven touchdowns as a rookie and never did anything again There's nothing that says Brian Thomas Jr is going to replicate what he did last year if the team that drafted him is giving up after a season and a quarter Maxwell hairston is going to be a stud.. Dalton Kincaid is very good... I'm not even the biggest beane Homer here but nothing says this guy is going to be a thousand yard receiver consistently because they wouldn't be putting him up He's too young and coming off too good a year something is seriously up

For a second , or something I would feel a lot lot more comfortable I'm not giving them a first round pick for somebody that they're actually technically giving up on

Wouldn't be shipping them off if he was on that rung lol Their Not a one an five team... They are right in the mix They're not trading away somebody they believe is good enough to help them win because they would keep him.. giving up in year two is absolutely the biggest red flag He's literally on a cheap rookie deal for the next multiple years why would they want to give that up unless they think they're never going to get what they got out of him last year And again the arrow is not always up in the NFL ... Just running to the jags and offering them a first round pick is probably exactly what they want which is to pull a fast one

I'm not sure about top five pick yet cuz there's a long time You might be on to something .. kid went from not starting in high school to showing up... and he's going to be at a big Texas school next year Watch out Arch Manning

If you're giving up on your first round pick after one season those are red flags my friend I'm scared they're trying to fleece another team because they know something's up.. truly We can agree to disagree I get it you've always liked Brian Thomas Jr There's plenty of great talents that did nothing in the NFL including Sammy Watkins who had much more talent than most of the league and did nothing

Yeah I said I'm not giving up a first round pick for a guy who has under a 50% success rate right now who looks like he's afraid of catching the ball and getting hit Correct He does not look like the same guy from last year if you can't admit that you have goggles on.. he's not looking the same I would throw a second round flyer since we need some outside help... and that's cuz we need it.. no teams are going to come out swing with a first round pick with a guy who looks like doesn't want to get hit

The NFL where 35% of the players are undrafted free agents? No I have always been trained to believe that draft status means nothing once you enter the league and the talent margin is so slim between a 7th round pick and a first round pick... The Gap is way smaller compared to a CFL player to an NFL player Work ethic means way more at the highest level I'll take a first round talent with an undrafted rookies work ethic but you don't get that often.. players like Tom Brady in the sixth round have the best work ethic but they weren't considered crazy talented It's hard to find crazy talent with great work ethic.. which we got in Josh Allen which is why he was always talked about as the number one pick guys who go in the top 10 usually have the best combination of work ethic and skill and even then a lot of times they're relying on pure god-given talent

Let's come back to this in 5 years and see how your boys career is doing If he's got 7,000 yards you're absolutely correct If he never went for 1200 yards again well... You're acting like he's Jerry Rice

I'm not saying he's not better than what we might have I'm saying in the NFL with a salary cap and x amount of pics just giving away a first round pick for a guy who is going through problems is not the smartest thing X Plus y does not always equal z in the NFL.. I can think he has talent but he also is overcoming mental hurdles right now which I'm not throwing a first round pick at Now if you're saying him or olave for a second round pick I would be willing to take a gamble on him because his size

Not if he keeps alligator arming footballs which he needs to correct or he's not even going to have a 10-year career Terrific talent he now has mental hurdles he has to overcome which is easier said than done

So you're literally going to dismiss Michael Clayton who was a higher draft pick who had a higher pedigree coming out of college and basically put up 1200 yards and seven touchdowns as a rookie and then never did anything else Brian Thomas Jr had 90 more yards lol You can absolutely go the same way as Michael Clayton.. he could also turn it around but to say he's going to be a perennial pro bowler is not correct People anointed Odell Beckham as the next greatest thing ever and he's not a Hall of famer I said the same thing after his hot start that it's not going to last You think Brian Thomas Jr is a 14,000 yard receiver in 10 years?

You act like there's never been a flash in the pan Michael Clayton had 1200 yards and seven touchdown as a rookie .. he was a 6'3 205 lb beast and was a higher first round pick than btj Never did anything again

I mean there's plenty of players in NFL history over 100 years who have had one or two really good seasons And then went back to obscurity To think having a really good rookie season guarantees a 10-year long-term great career is not how the NFL works He literally looks nothing like the same guy.. success rate is under 50% rate right now The jaguars wouldn't be open to moving him unless they thought there was something up he's Young and on a rookie contract I get it you really like this guy last year coming into the draft.. but if you don't understand that there's ebbs and flows peaks and valleys.. and the lines not always straight up progression I don't know what to tell you you don't know ball

You need to be really careful with the kid who's playing with no passion right now.. alligator arming balls and looks contact shy This is a complete different football player than last year.. he looks nothing like a football player that's worth a first round pick right now.. Not sure they can get that with his tape right now @GoBills808 Besides of thumb down do you have any sort of actual constructive thing to say buddy? He's not playing at the same level he was last year.. everything I said is true do you actually have a counter or do you just want to hit an emoji Second or third round pick? Sure The way he's running routes and playing right now that's scary to give up a first round pick

Considering harbaugh has had rosters loaded with pro bowlers and all pros and underachieves.. nothing tells me he could come to our roster of no names and do anything with them

he was getting out snapped by Quinn early

This whole Love fest with Bills fans thinking he's going to California is so stupid Realistically odds say he's not married to that woman in 10 years.. and he grew up and became a man in Buffalo Tom Brady didn't go home to California.. this is Bill's fans thinking they're not allowed to have anything good 100% I stand by it Nothing says he's going or will request a trade to California besides Bills fans who have PTSD... Nothing FYI McVay was already close to retiring he's not going to be around for 20 years like Bill belichick... This is the epitome of Bills fans consistently being beaten down downtrodden having anxiety and not thinking they could have anything good .. we get a superstar and everybody thinks he's destined to go back home to California lol That is a mentality of people who have been and seen four straight super bowl losses

Marcus Mariota was the number two overall picking the draft who had great athleticism and work ethic and accuracy and he didn't even work Showing you that it takes an entire organization to bring a quarterback to his fullness