jrober38

The QB and OL are going to be a lot worse than last year.

Not sure we're the worst, but we're probably bottom 5. We're worse at QB, have a much worse offensive line and are going to struggle to score 18 points per game this year (last year we barely reached that mark). The defense didn't look good in preseason, and the free agents we added to the defensive line don't look to be any good or they can't stay healthy. I think the offense is going to be horrible, and the defense will probably be bottom 10 as a result of the offense not being able to sustain drives. We're likely looking at a top 5 pick next year.

If a QB is any good they usually compensate for a bad supporting cast. If both QBs look like a deer in the headlights this year, I think we're in major trouble heading into 2019.

Record: 4-12 The Bills will feature one of the worst offenses in the NFL this year (already terrible last year). We'll struggle to score points, and the number of turnovers will spike without Taylor's steady, yet unspectacular hand at QB. With arguably the NFL's worst group of receivers, when we get behind things will really snowball against us and in some games I expect the wheels to really come off. We'll probably score 16-17.5 PPG this year which will make it incredibly hard to win games. On defense, early returns show this year's crop of free agent talent might not be as good as last years when we scored a couple good safeties and some decent corner backs who have since moved on. We should be alright on the back end, but generating pressure up front looks like it's going to be very difficult, and I'm not sure we'll be much better stopping the run. Tremaine Edmunds looks like a stud to build the defense around, but without a group in front who can control the line of scrimmage and force the opposing QB off their mark, the defense will probably be average to below average when you consider how long they'll be on the field for. On paper the Bills are one of the worst teams in the NFL. We have replacement level talent across the depth chart, with major issues on the OL, at WR and on the DL. We'll also likely feature one of the least efficient QBs in the league which could lead to some disaster games when we get behind by double digits.

A bad year likely implies that our quarterbacks played like crap all year.

The problem is that he doesn't have much talent. He hasn't been very good since we drafted him and he does very little generating pressure on the passer.

I was dead right!

Trade down and accumulate picks. The Bills need a major influx of young talent. They need to accumulate early draft picks and fill as many holes as they can in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Peterman #1 Allen #2 (until week 4 or week 5) McCarron will be cut or traded.

If they can't trade McCarron, I think he'll be cut. There's no reason to hold 3 QBs on the roster when the #3 guy is a vet making $5 mil/year. If the Bills ever get down to their 3rd string QB, just sign a guy off the street and aim for the #1 overall pick in the 2019 draft.

Lawson should be moved to another team. Another horrible pick by Doug Whaley.

At this point, Allen is just a workout warrior until he shows he can actually play on the field against quality competition with defenders trying to hit him.

Allen should play the whole game. He needs the reps.

Not a chance. Our next two first round picks should be quite high. Next year's might be a top 5 pick.

Peterman and it's not close.

Having seen the new angle, I'll concede that he had more time to throw than initially thought. I still think he moves through his progressions much faster than Allen. Peterman reads the defense, and anticipates what's going to happen and usually he targets the right guy. The issues are usually related to the velocity he generates on the ball, particularly when he throws outside the hash marks. Rewatching that throw, as soon as he reads that the one safety is on Benjamin, he knows that means Reilly will be open and he instantly just pulls the trigger. He seems to process what's going on on the field really quickly.

If you're trying to suggest QBs can't get better with time and experience, then we're in big trouble with all the QBs on the roster.

I'd not seen this view before. He's on his 3rd read in the time Allen is usually still looking at his first.

The other point remains. The ball came out perfectly on time, and Peterman split the defense with a dart in between 2 defenders, after he perfectly froze the safeties by giving Benjamin a look even though he was never going to give him the ball. The fade to Benjamin was another perfect read. 8 in the box with a single high safety and your WR facing bump and run. Throw it up against the smaller corner and let him make a play. The throw to Kerley showed amazing anticipation. He throws a perfect pass on 3rd and 18 to a spot where only his guy can catch it, long before his receiver is even out of his break. 3 good reads, and 3 excellent throws. He showed arm strength on the 1st one, the ability to read the defense and throw with touch on the 2nd, and he threw with great anticipation and ball placement on the 3rd one. Seems like you're probably contradicting yourself. I think most scouts would tell you that QBs generally don't learn to throw with anticipation at the NFL level. It's one of those things you either have or don't have. Tyrod never learned to do it. Most guys are like him.

Sorry but that's the play design on the throw to Reilly. You don't throw the skinny post against Vanilla Cover 2 by locking onto the post as your #1 read unless you want to send your WR off the field on a stretcher. The first "read" isn't really a read in the sense that you have to look at another guy to hold the safeties and open up the alley in between the safeties. Peterman did it to perfection.

Peterman gets the ball out quickly. He reads the field pre snap, and pulls the trigger almost all the time to the guy he thinks is going to get open. As a player, he reminds me a lot of Ryan Fitpatrick who did the same thing really well. With a subpar arm, you need to have a quick release, and Peterman has surely shown that to be the case over the last 13 months. Allen on the other hand held the ball and got sacked. Allen literally said himself that the game moved too fast and he didn't really have a chance to read the defense pre snap. No surprise he locked onto guys who didn't get open, had to look for his 2nd, or 3rd read against pressure and it didn't work. Allen admited the game moved too fast for him. When Allen had the chance to pull the trigger on his 3rd, 4th, and 5th sacks, the pocket was still "clean" by NFL standards. Unfortunately for him, his inexperience didn't feel pressure and he held the ball too long thinking he had more time, and he got sacked. That extra half second in the pocket against an NFL defense is an eternity.

Peterman gets the ball out faster, making his protection look better than it actually was. He made a great throw to convert a long 3rd down after escaping the pocket when his protection completely broke down. He rolled right, and threw a perfect ball to Benjamin where only he could catch it on the sideline. Last Sunday, he converted a 3rd and 18 with a perfectly timed throw to Jeremy Kerley where the ball was out of his hand before Kerley made his break for the ball. As the All-22 showed, Josh Allen double clutched it on each the #4 and #5 sack when he could have let it fly, but as his scouting reports said, he doesn't do a good job throwing with anticipation yet, and instead of making a play like Peterman, he took a couple bad sacks. It's easy to blame everything on everyone but Allen, but reality is that he still has a long way to go before he's ready to successfully lead an NFL offense. 6 of 12 (50%) for 34 yards (2.8 YPA), 5 sacks for 39 yards lost, and no points on the board. Yeah, Josh did "okay." *sarcasm*

Fine. It wasn't as good as the others, but saying those weren't their starters is fake news. Peterman looked by far the best against a starting defense in the preseason. The other two guys looked awful.

The last 20 years of first round QBs picked in the first round tells us he's probably going to suck. Nothing about his preseason suggested he's ready to lead an NFL offense in regular season games. He did a few nice things, and there's stuff the build on, but the notion that we need to see what he can do immediately makes hardly any sense when you consider how big a project he was coming out of Wyoming.

You're still reaching. Seymour is listed as a starter on their current depth chart. That was Carolina's starting defense whether it fits the narrative you want to push or not. Some guys weren't healthy, but that's life for most teams in the NFL on an ongoing basis. Peterman looked great against an opponent's starters. McCarron and Allen looked horrible. Allen said himself that he was surprised by the speed of the game, which is pretty significant when considering whether or not he's ready to play at that speed week in and week out. It's also extremely concerning when you factor in that it's preseason, and the Bengals ran a pretty vanilla D without a proper game plan to stop us and it gave our rookie QB major problems reading the field pre and post snap. I honestly don't understand the rush to see Allen on the field. The guy was a project who needs to learn a lot. His short performance against the Bengals showed he's not ready yet which is fine. He was a 2-3 year project anyways.