DaBillsFanSince1973

my point was, ALL phases need to click. it's a reach, especially in this game, which I was referring to in the above post when you're relying on one phase of the team to win . you went on to claim defense wins championships, end of story when clearly, even by the smallest of margin, it's not so in every game. this is how I see it. those putting their hopes on one side of the ball to win a championship (or regular season game) can and have come up short. so to me, having both phases, scoring points as well as not allowing points is just as key in winning a championship or regular season games. in the case of the present bills team. they have neither the offense (30th pass/11th rush/16th points) or defense (26th pass/8th rush/6th points) to be able to depend on one or the other separately. they will need both offense to score, defense to make stops and special teams to make kicks and control the down and distance. all three phases need to click today. saints offense (3rd pass/7th rush/6th points) defense (12th pass/19th rush/10th points) I hope some fans are not depending on the defense solely (or weather) to win this game, especially against a player like drew brees. because if you're depending on just the defense, it could end up disappointing. obviously no one is really depending on one phase of the game to win but some believe the only way to win a game or championship is through the defense. ftr, defense has always been my favorite side of the ball but until or if this defense ever gets to number one (ravens 2000/2013 seahawks level) I know I have to look to the offense to do their part in trying to win football games and try to make the post season, which at this point is still in reach.

not much of a chance. oh well, you'll still be watching though, no? lets hope they break the negative barrier you seem to always be behind, that would be good, yes?

you said defense wins championships, end of story. I just pointed out it wasn't the end of the story, even considering the margins.

more weapons certainly should help his game. we shall see?

out of the what, 50+ superbowls played, I would be curious to see if every sb winning team won solely because of their defense? there has to be some kind of stat for that given there is a stat for everything, even how many times a player farts during a game, no? as for your "Defense wins championships, end of story." it's really not the end of the story. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/06/does-defense-really-win-championships On this last point, casual fans might have suspected as much. Why? Because defense wins championships. Coaches of all levels and sports have said so for years. This isn’t even a locker room cliché. It’s hardened into one of the organizing principles of team sports. Except that it ain’t necessarily so. What we found: when it comes to winning championships – or winning in general, for that matter – defense and offense carry uncannily similar weight. Among the 49 NFL Super Bowls, the better defensive team, measured by points allowed that season, has won 30 times. The better offensive team has won 25 times. It’s a slight edge to defense, but it’s a pretty close call, and not different from random chance. The Super Bowl champ has been a top-five defensive team during the regular season on 31 occasions. How many times was the Super Bowl champ ranked among the top five in offense? 27. Damn near even. But we’re talking about only 49 games, so let’s broaden the sample size. There have been 462 NFL playoff games held over the last 49 seasons. The better defensive teams have won 58 percent of the time. The better offensive teams have won 62 percent of the time. Slight edge to the offense, but, again, pretty even. (Sometimes the winning team is better both offensively and defensively, which explains why the total exceeds 100 percent.) Collectively, teams with a top-five defense have won 180 playoff games. Teams with a top-five offense have won 184 games. Accounting for almost 10,000 regular season games, the better defensive team has won 66.5 percent of the time compared to 67.4 percent of the time for the better offensive team. Again, a negligible difference. according to their findings, having a stellar defense does not end the story. you really need both, imo.

can I ask what you foresee as more ammunition? also, I don't put wins/losses solely on the back of the QB. pretty obvious all phases have to be clicking but it is pretty evident that the play of the QB and how he controls and leads the offense plays a pretty critical part when winning or losing games. anyone who feels that it falls more on the defense or special teams is really reaching.

it will depend on the end result. it could continue on with the "is he a franchise guy" if he helps lead the team to victory or it could get ugly if he does not meet expectations and they lose. one thing I will add. I may not be 100% confident in taylor but you wont see me post he sucks, cut him for peterman or any of the other ridiculous negative posts on his game. he is the starter and as the starter I support him just as I have the past QBs who unfortunately did not meet expectations but I supported them none the less because they were part of the team I support. until better comes along he is the guy under center and I can only hope he meets and even exceeds expectations because if he is, they're likely winning games. so rather than knock him, I'm pulling for him to do well. GO BILLS!!!

to me, this is a major test. the bounce back test. I hope like hell they rise to the occasion. GO BILLS!!!

lets see where taylor stands if he ever gets to 141 starts as a starting franchise QB? I could be more impressed but I'm thinking that unless somehow taylor becomes that guy in the next 8 games he may not have that chance, at least in a bills uni. also, I probably should of just left taylor out of my post altogether as I was basically responding to your reply to OldTimeAFLGuy below. I wouldn't really call 12 4th qtr comebacks and 19 game winning drives as "not good". when/if taylor leads the team to a winning season/playoffs/conference championship games/superbowl trophy/superbowl mvp then maybe he can be mentioned in the same league as Aaron Rodgers?

Tyrod Taylor 3 Fourth Quarter Comebacks, 5 Game-Winning Drives Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get as Excel Workbook (experimental) Get table as CSV (for Excel) Strip Mobile Formatting Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Video: SR Sharing Tools & How-to Video: Stats Table Tips & Tricks Glossary Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 1 2015 5 2015-10-11 26-069 BUF @ TEN W 14-13 10 17 58.82 109 1 0 97.4 6.41 7.59 8 76 9.50 1 4QC / GWD 2 2015 12 2015-12-06 26-125 BUF HOU W 30-21 11 21 52.38 211 3 0 127.2 10.05 12.90 7 28 4.00 1 GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 3 2016 11 2016-11-27 27-116 BUF JAX W 28-21 12 18 66.67 166 1 0 114.6 9.22 10.33 7 38 5.43 1 4QC / GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 4 2017 4 2017-10-01 28-059 BUF @ ATL W 23-17 12 20 60.00 182 1 0 106.7 9.10 10.10 7 12 1.71 0 GWD 5 2017 6 2017-10-22 28-080 BUF TAM W 30-27 20 33 60.61 268 1 0 96.5 8.12 8.73 6 53 8.83 0 4QC / GWD Aaron Rodgers 12 Fourth Quarter Comebacks, 19 Game-Winning Drives Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get as Excel Workbook (experimental) Get table as CSV (for Excel) Strip Mobile Formatting Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Video: SR Sharing Tools & How-to Video: Stats Table Tips & Tricks Glossary Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 1 2008 2 2008-09-14 24-287 GNB @ DET W 48-25 24 38 63.16 328 3 0 117.0 8.63 10.21 4 25 6.25 0 4QC / GWD 2 2008 16 2008-12-28 25-026 GNB DET W 31-21 21 31 67.74 308 3 0 132.2 9.94 11.87 1 -1 -1.00 0 GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 3 2009 1 2009-09-13 25-285 GNB CHI W 21-15 17 28 60.71 184 1 0 92.0 6.57 7.29 3 7 2.33 0 4QC / GWD 4 2009 13 2009-12-13 26-011 GNB @ CHI W 21-14 16 24 66.67 180 0 0 88.9 7.50 7.50 3 6 2.00 0 4QC / GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 5 2010 16 2011-01-02 27-031 GNB CHI W 10-3 19 28 67.86 229 1 1 89.7 8.18 7.29 7 21 3.00 0 GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 6 2011 12 2011-12-04 28-002 GNB @ NYG W 38-35 28 46 60.87 369 4 1 106.2 8.02 8.78 4 32 8.00 0 GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 7 2012 4 2012-09-30 28-303 GNB NOR W 28-27 31 41 75.61 319 4 1 119.9 7.78 8.63 5 13 2.60 0 4QC / GWD 8 2012 10 2012-11-18 28-352 GNB @ DET W 24-20 19 27 70.37 236 2 1 106.4 8.74 8.56 1 3 3.00 0 4QC / GWD 9 2012 13 2012-12-09 29-007 GNB DET W 27-20 14 24 58.33 173 0 0 80.7 7.21 7.21 3 32 10.67 1 GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 10 2013 16 2013-12-29 30-027 GNB @ CHI W 33-28 25 39 64.10 318 2 2 85.2 8.15 6.87 1 5 5.00 0 4QC / GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 11 2014 6 2014-10-12 30-314 GNB @ MIA W 27-24 24 42 57.14 264 3 0 99.7 6.29 7.71 7 34 4.86 0 4QC / GWD 12 2014 17 2015-01-11 31-040 GNB DAL W 26-21 24 35 68.57 316 3 0 125.4 9.03 10.74 3 -4 -1.33 0 4QC / GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 13 2015 2 2015-09-20 31-292 GNB SEA W 27-17 25 33 75.76 249 2 0 116.9 7.55 8.76 6 23 3.83 0 4QC / GWD 14 2015 12 2015-12-03 32-001 GNB @ DET W 27-23 24 36 66.67 273 2 1 96.2 7.58 7.44 4 27 6.75 1 4QC / GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 15 2016 12 2016-12-04 33-002 GNB HOU W 21-13 20 30 66.67 209 2 0 108.9 6.97 8.30 3 16 5.33 0 GWD 16 2016 14 2016-12-18 33-016 GNB @ CHI W 30-27 19 31 61.29 252 0 0 87.0 8.13 8.13 3 19 6.33 0 GWD 17 2016 18 2017-01-15 33-044 GNB @ DAL W 34-31 28 43 65.12 355 2 1 96.6 8.26 8.14 2 16 8.00 0 GWD Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD Notes 18 2017 3 2017-09-24 33-296 GNB CIN W 27-24 28 42 66.67 313 3 1 102.6 7.45 7.81 4 23 5.75 0 4QC / GWD 19 2017 5 2017-10-08 33-310 GNB @ DAL W 35-31 19 29 65.52 221 3 0 122.9 7.62 9.69 4 32 8.00 0 4QC / GWD they are not in the same class.

dreaming of bacon

thursday night games are destroying the nfl cte is a serious repercussion from a sport that is violent. it will and has destroyed some lives but I doubt it'll be the straw that broke the camels back?

how anyone can put taylor in the same catagory as rodgers is beyond me. don't get me wrong, taylor is the man under center. I support that for now but also realize he's not in the same caliber as rodgers. honestly, even showing some improvement this season, he's not the long term answer nor should be considered a franchise guy. suffice for now until better comes along but I see his career likely becoming more of a solid back up down the road whether it be for the bills or some other team. franchise, rodgers level? no

so it's a modern thing...? First Known Use of obsession 1680 :a persistent abnormally strong interest in or concern about someone or something obsession noun ob·ses·sion \ äb-ˈse-shən , əb- \ https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsession

they eat a snickers bar and do a few jumping jacks

it's settled then, both sides are obsessed.

is it an obsession to dissect a player as been the case with taylor? I mean serious dissecting, like his every move. yeah, I'm thinking it's an obsession, no it's discussion, wait, definitely an obsession.

time to eat

I'm thinking they don't win another game. my brain has been sizzled with the 17 year drought and no way can I see them win another game this season. they need to cut tyrod and put peterman in there so they can finish 19-0 in 2018, claiming the lombardi. why anyone could even have the slightest optimism about the next 8 games is beyond me. sarcasm intended

this was my thought exactly. talk about a dumpster article

bills win sunday

rocks was good, get the lead out. the album I'm more partial to is toys in the attic. the whole album is good stuff

the curse lives on, mon... wade was/is the man and I have all due respect for his late father, bum

heat is rising

it's like the players are saying, no time to recover for some of them. I don't know, it all boils down to greed to me.