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I also believe that Allen was their guy from the start and I also believe it was the Buffalo Bills that leaked Josh Allen's high school tweets so other teams would avoid the controversy. Now for the Furious question. Bills fans gotta remember what it was like leading up to the draft as Buffalo was sitting at the 12 spot and wanting one of the top four QBs. The majority of Bills fans on this board wanted the Bills to trade up with the NY Giants for that #2 spot to draft Josh Rosen. Most fans here wanted Beane to give up most of the 2018 picks and the 2019 first round pick to move up to the #2 spot! Lucky for the Bills that the Giants were adamant about selecting RB Sequon Barkly (Dunno why) just as Denver was adamant about selecting Brady Chubb if he was there at the #4 spot. The Browns wanted too much for their spots and the Colts wanted OG Quinton Nelson if he was there so Tampa was the only realistic trade partner and the Bills were determined to get that #7 spot before the Cardinals. So, I can see why the Bills FO might be furious with the Jets about that #3 spot and they were thinking the Jets would take Allen ahead of them. For whatever reason, the Jets will be the Jets and took Darnold. (the Tweets might have had something to do with it) I also think that Cleveland wanted Allen at some point and then Baker Mayfield at the end. So happy things worked out the way they did.

The price for ODB must have been too great for Beane, otherwise, I think he pulls the trigger. I can see the NY Giants wanting that #9 overall this year and I can see why Beane said no to that. Kind of a shame though that they couldn't get a deal done because adding Beckham might make up a bit talent wise for drafting Watkins with two firsts and a fourth. Although Beane already scored big last year with two firsts in a franchise QB, ILBer and Robert Foster, Levi Wallace as free agents add to last year's talent influx. Beane already filling some the needs in free agency and I can see this draft class really adding to the roster. P.S. that article on fools gold really showed how stupid teams can be by adding big names only to create a paper tiger. BB went the other way in adding decent fill-ins until he can draft/ find quality starters.

When you look at the 2017 offensive line rankings with Glenn, Wood, Incognito it was a top 15 unit and not much changed subbing Dawkins in for an injured Glenn. Still, we all saw how badly Mills/Miller played on that right side at times. (San Diego game) 2018 was different for Dawkins without the help of Incognito next to him he took a downturn and graded poorly. The entire line graded as one of the worst in the NFL in almost every category. 12th worst in QB hits given up with 101. 14th worst in QB sacks given up with 41 and I can only imagine a pure pocket QB would have been sacked far more. Stating that what we can't see is how these new players to Buffalo performed in their respective units due to the talent around them. Let's look at Center Mitch Morse for a min, as that grade of 69.5 is low from what I see. The guy has only allowed one hit in his last 21 starts. Bodine graded a 61.6 but allowed 16 pressures on Allen in 10 starts. Not to mention that Morse played in a very explosive complicated offense and he knows how to set protections for the line. No question that his upgraded skill should help the two OGs around him. It looks to me like the Bills signed the best young center on the free agent market. We don't know if the Bills are done with the O line rebuild until after the draft but as of right now I think they greatly improved the unit with just the center. https://expo.newyorkupstate.com/sports/g66l-2019/03/b971c0cdb50d4/9-thoughts-and-a-grade-on-buffalo-bills-signing-free-agent-c-mitch-morse.html

If there is a reason as to why the Browns fail this season it's on the GM for naming the former RB coach the new HC and allowing the DC/interim HC Greg Williams leave. HC Hue Jackson replaced after going 2-5-1 and Williams going 5-3-0. Meanwhile, OC Todd Haley removed when Jackson was removed and the QB coach promoted to OC. Clearly, the GM thought someone would steal their new OC in Freddie Kitchens so he went from a RB coach to OC to HC. Like Anthony Lynn managed to do with Buffalo and then went on to HC of the Chargers. I look at this hire in the same view as the Arizona Cardinals hiring Kliff Kingsbury... a former HC at Texas Tech and had QB Patrick Mahomes as his QB there. he ran the "air raid offense at TT and his six-year record there was 35-40. While never finishing better than 5th in the Big 12 conference. Freddie! Kinda looks lost here.

I look at these moves as not very good for the team unless by some magic they think they can upgrade cheaper through the draft. Buffalo and other teams haven't been able to do this in forever. Vernon might have been 19 mill against the 2019 cap with a salary of 15 mill for this year and the next. While I get that they don't like that cap hit, then why not restructure and keep their only edge rusher that is worth a damn. This trade leaves a huge hole on the defense that is very tough to fill. While they are getting a slight upgrade at RG a pro bowl player edge rusher for an average right guard still seems like a bad move to me. Then letting pro bowl SS Landon Collins leave without getting anything in return and he went to a hated division rival in the Redskins! This! Collins was due a salary of 10 mill per with a cap hit of around 14 mill. This isn't about malcontent players that aren't motivated to play their best (like Dareus)or players who missed all or most of the season with injuries (like Watkins). This is all about purging the roster of expensive players regardless of the impact of losing them. How on earth do you trade away a 26-year-old superstar WR like Odell Beckham Jr and keep a 15 year NFL QB who has taken his team once to the playoffs in the last decade who is making 22 mill per with a cap hit of 23 mill. I would have kept Collins, Vernon, Beckham and dumped Manning. The NY Giants had the #2 overall pick last year with Gettleman and took a RB over a QB. This year they have the #6 overall pick and the #17 overall from the Browns. Bills fans aren't the only people who are having a difficult time seeing a bright future for the NY Giants, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001022315/article/odell-beckham-jr-trade-fallout-ny-giants-plan-hard-to-see?icampaign=trendingNews It's frankly hard to see what the Giants' plan is, unless they have one more dramatic move in their future. In the space of a handful of days, they have given up on three of the most talented players on their team -- Landon Collins, Olivier Vernon and now Beckham -- and for their troubles, they got a starting guard (Kevin Zeitler), the Browns' first-round draft pick (No. 17 overall), a late third-round pick (No. 95) and safety Jabrill Peppers, a former first-rounder. There is plenty of time to question whether that is adequate compensation -- and for that matter, why they didn't trade Collins last season rather than letting him go for nothing. What is unquestionable is that the Giants' attempt at a competitive rebuild should be over. These moves make a modicum of sense only if the next one is the one they dread most of all. What is the point of keeping Manning -- no matter how much better the offensive line should be at protecting him -- if you just took out of his arsenal one of the most dangerous receivers in the game? Dunno about you, but I'm very happy the Bills have Beane and the NY Giants have Gettleman.

Naa, hiring Nathaniel Hackett to be their OC was the dumbest move by Maroon. The last guy on earth I would want to help develop a young QB is Hackett. Another of Marrone's masterfully dumb moves was that the Huckster had no experience as an NFL OC in Buffalo in 2013 and yet the first season they had no experienced veteran QB on the roster and no QB coach with basically three rookie QBs on the roster. All three QBs failed.

You may be right and it might be the owner who wants to keep Manning. But then in the last years draft, Gettleman decided to build the offense with that #2 pick at RB instead of a QB or trading back as many teams wanted to move up to that #2 spot and the Giants refused to move. (Luckily for Buffalo ) Manning wasn't really all that bad last season but he was sacked 47 times, 97 QB hits which were 11th worst and Gettleman did bolster the line with Solder at LT and a rookie at LG. What's odd is the sacks were actually worse in 2018 as the 2017 line only allowed 34 sacks, 70 QB hits the previous year as they went 3-13. Now, consider that the only two pro bowl players on defense for the Giants last year were SS Landon Collins who is now a Redskin that the Giants got nothing for, edge rusher Olivier Vernon at LBer who is now a Brown and was a straight up trade with Cleveland for RG Kevin Zeitler. A Pro Bowl pass rusher for a RG? I don't get it!

I think he is a clueless moron! What that GM is doing really makes no sense to me. They keep Manning....dunno why... and who is he going to throw to that can bail them out as ODB can?

CBS Sports thinks the Bills did a good job so far, Buffalo Bills Quietly, Buffalo is putting together a very nice offseason. It's impossible to just go out and make massive splashes when you're in a position like the Bills. Instead, they've done a very good job assembling some cheaper talent to put around Josh Allen. Notably, they scored deals with Cole Beasley -- an excellent slot weapon to help ease the burden on Allen in terms of short-yardage throws -- and John Brown, who can take the top off any defense and pairs well with Allen's monster arm. Mitch Morse is expensive, but he's a young (26 years old) center to grow with Allen and help protect the young quarterback up front. Tyler Kroft was also an overpriced tight end weapon, but he's young, he flashed for the Bengals and, again, it can't be overstated how important it is for Allen to have some decent weapons. The Bills also added Kevin Johnson as a young, upside-filled cornerback, picked up Jon Feliciano and Ty Nsekhe as potential starters/depth on the offensive line and even managed to add Frank Gore. Yes, the running back group is 95 years old combined, but there's some reliable skill guys there. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-free-agency-day-2-john-dorsey-browns-win-big-while-giants-are-biggest-losers/

While the Bills didn't get a Richie Incognito pro bowler for the line. What they did was improve what they had on the roster and that center is a big part of it. Feliciano, Nsekhe and Spencer Long are all better then what the Bills fielded last year. Mitch Morse, 6'6'' 305 in his four years with the Chiefs with 49 starts has had 11 penalties with 7 holds, 4 false starts, 11 penalties total. While not a pro bowler he is a solid starter at center. A+ grade IMHO Feliciano, 6'4'' 325 in his four years with the Raiders has played in 48 games with only 8 starts, 3 holds, 3 false starts, 7 penalties total. Spencer Long, 6'5'' 318 in his 5 years in the NFL 53 games, 44 starts 2 holds, 1 false start and 2 that were declined, 5 penalties total. RG Ty Nsekhe, 6'8'' 330 in his 5 years in the NFL 56 games, 16 starts 3 holds, 6 false starts, 2 declined, 11 penalties total. Plus, the Bills still have the rest of free agency and the draft to further upgrade the line if they want.

To give you an idea of how wrong you are about Miller he gave up 33 QB pressures last year vs Wyatt Teller who only allowed 8 pressures in 8 games. Buffalo graded as one of the worst run blocking units in the NFL in 2018 (30th)and run blocking is Miller's strong suit and yet he graded at (54.2). His real issue is he is slow to come out of his stance and can get manhandled. If the guy was worth a damn he would have been resigned by the Bills, simple as that.

This is smoke to bother the Jests...

This, and he is still a viable power RB.

A better backup plan at RT then what is already on the roster for sure.

Good stuff, good signing! Beane doing it right with good receivers while not overspending!

Good stuff! Beane working like crazy.

Damn, gotta love this! Good stuff! Why then was he rated so far behind Paradis on the top 100 free agents?

Getting a third-round pick for Tyrod Taylor was a brilliant move as the Buffalo Bills entire world knew his limitations and knew he had to go no matter what. The reason Beane didn't sign a backup QB quicker was that he was waiting for Derek Anderson to make up his mind on if he was going to retire or not. Later on, Beane acknowledged that this was a mistake to wait for that long. Also, what he didn't know was that AJ McCarron wanted to start and didn't want to mentor to anyone, much less players he thought were beneath him. As far as Peterman goes, I have to put this one on OC Daboll or McD as somebody must have told the Bills FO that Peterman would be a viable starter on opening day. He wasn't a worthy backup for the 2017 season either.

This past years draft and two #1 picks. In obtaining the franchise QB at #7 overall which required a bit of footwork to get to #7 and then moving up again to the #16 pick to obtain that MLB in Tremaine Edmonds. The Bills had the 21st pick and managed to move up to the 7th, 16th in two instant starters who should be staples at their respective positions for years to come. Now, several sites have done a 2018 redraft including CBS sports and now have included CB Levi Wallace going to Detroit at #20, Robert Foster to Atlanta at #26. Think about it, it's like Buffalo was able to obtain four first round picks in 2018! Those two UDFAs finds were amazing. Beane is not sitting on his hands either as he went after AB the most expensive FA WR and his agent killed it before it even got traction. AB didn't help either by tweeting something like FAKE NEWS, Sure, going to run first Buffalo, LOL

Not if the Bills don't properly upgrade that offensive line and Allen is running more then needed again this year. I'm hoping JW is correct and the Bills draft a top WR, top TE and build that offensive line. If the Bills are going to overpay I hope it's for experienced O line players. To that last sentence, neither! Nothing wrong with a run-first offense to help that young QB develop.

Buffalo Bills GM Stew Barber was a complete moron on so many levels. What pissed off Tom Cousineau was that he was invited by the then-Bills GM Stew Barber to dinner in Buffalo...then never showed up, never called...nothing! Then, the initial offering by the Bills vs the Montreal Alouettes was less than half of what MA was offering. Of course, Ole Tom would head up north. This upset the new Bills HC Chuck Knox who managed to build a solid team despite the GM being a moron. Knox had brought his scouting director (Norm Pollom) with him from the LA Rams and those two were given carte blanch to do whatever they needed by the owner. Still, Barber was involved in negotiations and managed to upset many Bills players by lowballing them. I have to say this was partly on the owner's philosophy because, in the end, Wilson didn't want to pay Chuck Knox either, even after Knox rejuvenated the city of Buffalo by making the Buffalo Bills relevant again. The Bills hadn't beaten the Miami Dolphins over the entire decade of the 1970s and in that 1980 season opener in which the Bills beat Miami 17-7, Bills fans tore down the goal posts! Yes, Ralph Wilson gave Chuck Knox a top ten NFL salary when he hired him, (being desperate as he was at the time ) but this was five years later. In truth, my take is Knox grew tired of Wilson and his overly frugal ways and wanted a way out. Wilson being Wilson, hires Kay Stephenson, Hank Bullough as his next two head coaches. Meanwhile, that ex-Rams scouting director (Pollom)wanted to hire a young scout named Bill Polian. Now that the Bills had lost Knox to Seattle and the Bills were losing big time again with back to back 2-14 seasons Bills fans decided they had better things to do on Sunday so the stadium was more than half empty game after game. Wilson was getting desperate again because if things didn't change he knew he would be forced to sell all or part of his beloved team, or move it. Luckily, his GM/VP at that time suffered a serious injury (Terry Bledsoe), so Wilson fired him and promoted Polian to GM. Y'all can thank Bill Polian for talking owner Ralph Wilson into making Jim Kelly the highest paid QB in the league. Jim wanted to be a Raider as Al Davis had sent him on a vacation trip to London with two Raiderettes. Money talks, so Jim signed with Buffalo! Yes, Kelly didn't want to play for the Buffalo Bills when he was drafted by Buffalo and the weather was only one factor as Kelly noticed that the Bills lost Cousineau to Canada over money. I think Bills owner Ralph Wilson was the bigger reason and Polian not only talked Wilson into paying Kelly, but he also talked him into upgrading the stadium, paying top free agents. Let's not forget the 87 trade for Cornelius Bennett on Halloween that helped turn that defense around. Four straight super bowls! I think you can give a lot of credit to Bill Polian for those runs. Now, let's hope Beane/McD does as well.

I posted that Rich Eisen show about 10 times before the draft last year... Sure you don't want the Bills to trade for Josh Rosen when the Cards select Murry #1 overall this draft?

We will see on draft day! If this is a smokescreen or if McD is genuinely interested in building a decent offense. The Bills do need an edge pass rusher, pass rushing, penetrating DT. They also need an offensive line and star WR, TE. Sooo they also need to protect that QB they moved up to draft #7 last year and some receivers, some O linemen. We'll see.

Howsabout none of the above!!! They all suck! If I had to pick a head coach since Marv Levy it would be Wade Phillips. I sure as heck wouldn't want Chan Gailey back in Buffalo and if anyone else in the league thought he was worth a damn he would have a job in the NFL. Gailey had the right idea with running a spread, quick strike offense it's just that he had no idea how to properly implement it. The Chiefs are running a version of the "air raid" spread offense with Mahomes. Now, Gailey could run that he would still have a job in the NFL.

When you think about the importance of bringing in a player of Richie Incognito's caliber in being a pro bowler then that player will be worth over 10 mill per*. That's only 5-6 guys in the entire NFL making over 10 mill, and the Cowboys Zack Martin is the highest paid at 14 mill. (*average pay) Saffold will be 31 this year and his base pay is 5,375,000.with yearly cash 6,950,000. So, it remains to be seen what price the Bills would need to pay to bring him to Buffalo. In my view, it kinda makes more sense to find and draft a top OG considering all the penetrating, pass rushing DTs in the league. The Bills need a top LG who can block those DTs and pull for the run game. I know I'm greedy but I want an all pro, pro bowler at LG to help that center, LT. Center is another position I would want to see a top caliber player like Kent Hull. Build that offensive line right!