YattaOkasan
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1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:
Anyone think there is a chance they could move on from ( trade) Morse next offseason?
Feliciano filled in pretty well at C last year a couple of times...
He doesn’t have the concussion risk that Morse has, would likely be cheaper when they re-sign him, and he can fill in a year or two at C whilst they draft and bring the full time replacement up to speed..
They could probably get a third round pick for Morse..
I would look in the draft. Probably late rounds to stash on the PS. If that doesn’t work back to FA again.
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3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
WHy would we trade a good OL when we need them ourselves?
I would just keep them all?
The OL is pretty much complete....the reserves are quality......trading away good players that we could use sounds like the old bills
Agree keep them all I was trying to respond to some discussion about bumping Ford inside and how that’s a lot of assets for a backup. I think if they kick him inside they start him. But yeah keep them all.
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2 hours ago, billykay said:
Don't forget. Feliciano also plays Center & played it very well when he was called on.
Yup. I would cut long if choosing between Feliciano and long (I talked about Feliciano cause he was starting cause he’s better than long). @GunnerBillhad a great point about long term security at the center position.
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26 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:
Context is important
If the plan is to make Ford a full time OG, are you going to pay Feliciano after this season and keep Ford as a backup? If so, seems like a gross mismanagement of a second rounder who is primarily going to be a backup interior linemen. I think Feliciano is one of the tone setters along that line. I think they would be better served keeping him entrenched at RG.
So again, the context of what the plan moving forward would be, especially after giving Spain three more years, so hes likely entrenched as the starting LG...
If i put ford at guard then i would let feliciano or long go. probably make feliciano the back up if hell take the money. if ford is better than feliciano at RG then i dont think they would be better served with feliciano at RG. that said i dont know how good ford would be at RG, but i would def take one of the top 4 tackles if they somehow magically fell in the draft.
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@BigBillsFan last post helped me form my thoughts. I think the answer to the OP is we dont know because we havent really sunk sizeable assets into the WR position yet. We have sunk a 3rd for KB and then some FA contracts. Of those FA contracts Beasley and Brown, who are pretty reasonable contracts (31st and 37th highest), are by far the highest. So we havent spent draft picks or FA money on WR yet.
Reason for hope is that the two FA contracts have been good; reason for despair is that KB was bad. I really dont think we have any idea about the draft. These guys typically have a prototype and I'm not sure we know that yet for WR.
If your arguement is that they cant evaluate WR cause they havent really taken a shot yet, then ok, but I would still think you can understand the OL last year was a bigger need.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
Between his old friends and teammates Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde being here, the world class recovery facilities that would help him stay healthy, and the way that this scheme would unlock his full potential -- the Bills seem like the best fit for him.
That being said, if the Bills envision him in Lorenzo's old spot, I could see him choosing a different team in order to get more snaps. He'd likely be off the field for at least 30% of defensive snaps in Buffalo.
I really hope we land him. He would be an EXCELLENT fit in this scheme and would provide tremendous leadership in a locker room suddenly somewhat in need of more of it.Side question: if you got good enough play out of someone would you consider lowering Milanos snaps some? Obviously not in high leverage situations.
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4 hours ago, Clemfield2622 said:
OK, cool, he has a job a lot of people would like to have. I will now value his opinion more than anyone else on the planet including our scouting and coaching staff.
Do you happen to have links to past draft evaluations? Current projections mean nothing, it would be fun to see his thoughts now, several years later.
Everybody has their hits and misses. I'm sure he has late round guys he was right on, and others he was way off. Not a criticism of him, but that's the business.
His 5 year average is number 11 by the huddle report and had the best mock draft they tracked in 2017. Looks like they track 100 ish mocks in 2019. Obviously only professionals.
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1 hour ago, BidsJr said:
It was not intended to help the lesser teams in the league
Yeah I think that’s a problem too. I like the parity in the league and comp picks don’t help that.
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Im jumping all over Edwards in the 4th. Sheesh its a deep class.
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1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said:
I hear ya, and believe me, I really hope the guy turns it around. I hope that somehow Beane was right, and McDermott can rejuvenate the guy.
I mean, ..... I'm from Long Island, do you know the amount of texts I got minutes after the signing ragging on Beane and the Bills. How they p issed away six million on one of the worst corners in the league.
I think sometimes we take McDermott/Fraizer's D for granted and just assume we are always going to have a top unit. Problem is, we do have holes, and we need to fill them with talent and not just warm bodies.
If it wasnt for the name, and we saw the metrics over the last couple years, I highly doubt most would make the case that hed be worth while in this secondary.
I think your friends are hilarious. You either got a cheap corner or cut as Shaw said (they haven’t pissed anything away). He also got multiple offers and sounds like one may have been higher than our offer.
Laugh at what their jets and giants are doing at CB.
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Did Beane or Schoen watch any of his games? I don’t think they are taking him if neither saw him.
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10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Look, I agree that Josh looks like he could get a bit more shredded and it couldn't hurt, but you literally have no idea what Josh eats as a regular diet. Being seen at a Sabres game drinking with his two TE or eating the occasional Bar Bill does not mean "steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings".
And again...all that said, Josh's biggest development need is still between his ears. An extra hour hitting the weights may not help him achieve optimal performance as a QB, as much as an extra hour in the film room will do right now.
I think if Joshs biggest flaw next year is his athleticism then we are in a really good spot.
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57 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I can see the Bills heading into 2020 with this OL....
Dawkins - Ford - Morse - Feliciano - Free Agent/Draft
Depth - OT Nsekhe, OG/C Long, OG/C/OT Bates
I would add waddle to that list and inactivate bates on game days.
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3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:
Belicheat will take a look at the vet QB's available to replace Brady and land on Rivers as a stop gap. Rivers in recent years up until 2019 had been a great QB in terms of consistency and low turnovers. In 2017 and 2018 he had 10 and 12 picks to 28 and 32 TD's. That's a nearly 3 to 1 TD to INT ratio. His 2017 and 2018 production levels also included high completion percentages. I think Billy B knows a bargin when he sees one and will use Rivers as his QB the next 2 seasons to buy him some time to groom a young QB.
Rivers also comes at a cheaper price than Dalton who will require significant draft capital to trade for and might be as good or better anyway. I think that Rivers makes a lot of sense for the Pats if Brady bolts. Rivers can be asked to mostly manage games and work within a system. Rivers has played in a lot of different systems under a lot of different coaches and has had mostly success. I think Billy B will just ask him to mostly manage games and hand the ball off only letting him loose in games when needed.
Please let this happen. Rivers in the cold and behind that line would be great to watch. I think he’s going to Indy where they have a line and play indoors.
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Poyer was considered bad in Cleveland but before he came I thought he could be good (one of the few threads I have started).
I’m down with olgetree. I have also heard AJ Klein’s name tossed around a lot too. I think that’s a good fit too-
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3 minutes ago, gobills404 said:
The reality is that Allen is part of the run game and all of his rushing TDs were in the redzone. I'm sure that if we didn't have an incredibly mobile QB lots of those TDs would've gone to our RBs instead. Our run game is fine.
3 plays from the one against the Washington potatoes tells me that the Bills needed josh for some of those TDs cause the RBs weren’t cutting it.
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5 hours ago, Magox said:
He’s had more total yards, more yards per reception by a lot, more touchdowns, they are about the same speed and he’s considerably taller and stronger. And he achieved this in his second and third year in the league.
He clearly has been ascending, whereas Diggs has had 3 pretty good years in a row but no clear ascension.
Dont get me wrong Diggs is a quality number 1 Wr and I would love to have him but if I had to choose between the two I would choose Golladay
To me it’s about contract. Diggs is under contract at a reasonable price for 4 years. Golladay is gonna command a lot of money because of his play last year and continued growth next year.
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
This is pretty much where I am. I focussed in on him over the weekend after Bandit was raving about him last week. I saw some of what Bandit loved... the ability to do a number of different things - lines up right across the line and can rush from both sides and has some moves.
Hand usage - check
Power - check
Versatility - check
Effort - check
Athleticism (speed and bend) - suboptimal.
I am still struggling with this EDGE class. Young is out way on his own. I think Chaisson's ceiling is very high - he has the length, the speed, the athletic ability and the versatility but you are taking a gamble on that delivering increased production at the NFL level compared to college and every time I get close to shifting him up out of my "borderline 1st / 2nd" grade territory into my "true 1st rounder" territory that Georgia tape where I thought Andrew Thomas (an NFL level left tackle) really got the better of him just holds me back. There is lot to like about all of Gross-Matos, Epenesa, Greenard and my guy Bradlee Anae (and I certainly don't think Greenard and Anae are a tier below those other guys in the way that they have probably been seen by the consensus so far) but sorting through them and ranking them is a challenge and I think they all fall in my top end of the 2nd or borderline category rather than my 1st round category.
Thanks. Good to hear someone else is seeing similar things. Honestly when I saw Greenard I thought of LorAx a lot not sure his draft position is gonna be worth that role though.
I need to put the Chaisson tape on but have heard similar comments about him. I really did not like the Gross Matos tape. Anae was pretty good for the one game I watched but I’ll put that one back in. Honestly Epenesa I thought was clearly the best of the next tier and i would be very happy with him in April
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2 hours ago, thebandit27 said:
So, about my boy Greenard...
Dont know what your thoughts on him are but would like to hear. I put the Greenard tape in the other day. I really liked what I saw but his athleticism had me a bit worried (Mizzou LT seemed to have his number). He may have that elite hand usage though. The rip and swim across the OL is pretty deadly. I'll say that I think Greenard looked to be winning his 1 on 1 match ups at a high rate and wasnt just the benefit of pressure from others.
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I’ve wanted to win the division for a while. This looks a great year for that. I think I maybe more worried about the Jets and their 3rd place schedule than I am the pats (particularly if Brady doesn’t return).
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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
In the past 20 years the Peyton Manning Colts are the ONLY organization that has rose to any sustained success from bottoming out............the easiest way to greatness is from a start at .500 type level.
Bills fans have often lamented mediocrity as a reason for not being able to take the next step but that's always been BS.
The Bills are in a perfect position to take the next step...........but contrary to the retro-active narrative they actually were there under Marrone and Ryan as well...................you gotta' make the right moves to take the next step but it's there for the taking.
San Fran picked ahead of last year. Feel like they bottomed out and got good value for it.
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6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I don't think Harry rushes the passer well enough for the 3 tech...........they want heat from that spot.
He's also pretty good at DT1T and I'd expect him to get around 55% of the snaps or maybe even more...........he actually tackles RB's..........as a rookie he had twice as many tackles as Star in far fewer snaps............ which is nice when your MLB is a lot more of a matchup advantage against the pass than the run.
That' what's killer with Star at DT..........when teams want to run the LB's and safeties gotta' make all the tackles because Star can't get off blocks.
Oh I am def higher on Harry than Star. And I am super excited for next year when Harry and Oliver are on the field together especially in a nickel package.
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8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Yeah I'm just a big believer in incentivizing players............especially ones that have a concerning history wrt motivation.
That 2015 offseason where the Bills guaranteed Rex $25M.....outrageous under the circumstances......... and then turned around and extended McCoy out of stupidity with $26M more in guarantees and paid Percy Harvin like he was trustworthy and then gave all that guaranteed dough to Dareus with no conduct clauses. Just insane.
That front office had a boatload of cap room to spend and were living in an "on paper this sounds good" dimension that just isn't reality. All of those people were disincentivized to perform by unusually generous deals where the team was basically bidding against itself and not surprisingly they all underwhelmed in 2015.
Paying Star up front goes against the nature of the greatest concerns about him...........that he doesn't play up to expectations. I mean the dude tore it up in his rookie year and has been on cruise control cashing pay checks ever since. First year after big contract with Bills has by far his worst season and after another dud of a season he's getting his base salary guaranteed? It's like past peformance doesn't matter in evaluation. Which is of course one of the things we worry about with McBeane........giving too much rope or doubling down on mistakes because they like the person.
I think you said it up thread. They knew they had to roll with him this year. So lessen the hit this year and he’s probably gone next year. If that’s the plan I’m ok and I also share your concerns about not working hard enough.
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Any thoughts that they roll with Harry and Oliver as 3 techs and the replace Phillips with a moderate priced 1 tech?
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I believes its wins. So we are 2 wins worse than last year....? Yeah I dont understand. If its all FAs then some of the bigger named FAs should drag down other teams more (Pats and Brady) and no way Shaq is the moving the needle that much.