KingRex

Its only unfair if different rules are applied to different teams or the same rule is inconsistently applied. Getting a huge cap hit for an injured player may be unfortunate, but it isn't necessarily unfair unless the rules are applied differently.

So thanks to him and there is such a scarcity of playoff making QBs in this league he will do quite well in 2018.

1, vet QB to improve over TT and though only a bridge to a franchise QB can help us achieve the next step of going deeper in the playoffs. 2. Trade down to acquire even more picks in this apparently deep draft to build a juggernaut for 2018 that allows us to trade up and draft a franchise QB in 2019 following the Big Ben/Pitts model!

Nope. I am interested in winning next year. None of the rookie QBs are capable of carrying a team deep into the playoffs (or probably into the playoffs at all). In general, in order for a rookie QB to lead a team deep into the playoffs, he needs a TEAM around him. This was the model Big Ben played a key role in bringing an SB win to Pitt. We should use our 21st and 22nd and our 2- 2nd rounders to build a team capable of going deep in the playoffs even with a journeyman vet at QB which we should be able to sign from FA. Trading away our 1st rounders (+) to get an allegedly franchise rookie would likely be at most a sugar rush some less-informed fans will get all foamy about, but my sense is Beane/McD will be smart enough to build the team the right way for the long haul. Tyrod was a great bridge who proved capable of leading this team to the playoffs, but it is very unlikely he can lead the tteam deep into the playoffs. Time to get a new bridge capable of leading/managing this team to the next step. If we cannot develop Peterman or a later round pick into being our franchise QB, then consider trading up to get a franchise QB in 2019 to be the part to put this team over the top like Big Ben did for Pitts. The panic and poor training that saw McD potentially ruin Peterman's development rushing him to start in his 5 INT game gives a pretty clear indicator this team is not yet up to training a young QB. Trading up for a QB is likely a waste for this team.

The main reason from what I see for the 17 year drought was our football stupid attempts to emphasize finding a franchise QB to replace Jimbo. It was this psychotic quest which not only led to usnot acquiring a replacement for the aging Kelly a season later than we should have (We should have drafted a QB prospect in the '94 draft and begin trying out FAs as well), but the fear of pissing off Jim caused us to wait a year and out of desperation we reached for todd Collins with a second in 95. Even worse when Jimbo was forced to retire due to concussion, we then rushed TC to start before he was ready. This began a series of rushing players to start before they were ready and also stupid contract moves like giving JP a guaranteed big contract despite the fact he had serious injuries in his brief career. Even worse they signed Flutie to an incentive laden contract which when he performed well not only resulted in a huge cap hit for the year, but by rule added to his cap hit. So it went with foolish too fast QB development attempts that did not achieve success with QB after QB. The Bills should focus the QB search on: 1. Recognize that though Tyrod is NOT gonna be the franchise QB capable of carrying this team deep in the playoffs on his shoulders, that making our goal for 2017 to win the SB that virtually certainly was not gonna happen. TT was actually just the quality QB we needed for a more rational goal which was simply make the playoffs. Tyrod is NOT a franchise QB, but the Bills needed was a low-turnover QB who had escapability to avoid the big hit behind our poorly coached OL. Even though TT racked up a lot of sacks many of them struck me as TT running OB a fewyards behind the OB rather than him taking the big hit. Even better, there was not a large market for TT so we got the QB that led us to the playoffs for cheap. 2. Rather than trade precious draft picks to move up for Rosen or Donald (neither a sure thing) but instead used these picks to reload one of the oldest rosters in the NFL. We should look for a bridge teaching vet to help train Peterman and a late QB pick with upsides in a couple of years to be our disaster QB. 3. We should follow the method Pitts used when they acquired Big Ben to win an SB as a rookie. Just as the Vikings, Eagles, and Jags went deep in the playoffs this year with pedestrian QBs (and even the Pats with one of the best players ever acquired him with a 6th round pick and unlike NP who out of foolish desperation we used as a starter too quickly). Get a vet bridge as cheaply as we can and build a team with a superior D capable of the QB being the missing piece to put us over the top.

I guess our first step is to be in the hunt to go deep once before we worry about 10 years.

As far as yesterday. Are 3 out of 4 qualify as AN anomaly?

Nope.

Agree with those who have us more than a QB away. Shady demonstrated with the injury he almost miraculously recovered from how thin we are at RB. The luck we had this year with a 30+ year old surviving virtually the whole season we can't count on this luck. We not only need the best shot we can have at a replacement at RB but also a late choice of FA just in case. Add this to the starter needs Promo listed above and I'm a lot more interested in finding an affordable bridge QB who can start and play immediately than spending draft picks we need to play than trading up for a potential franchise QB who almost certainly will not produce for a year.

Not enough apparently since he seems to regularly be willing to cheat (based on his being found guilty of different transgressions of the rules at different times just to get competitive advantage. The amazing thing to me is his willingness to cheat whn the Pats are good enuf to win without cheating. If given the choice to be a winner with bad character or a loser with good character, I'd choose to be a loser, but maybe that's just me.

It may be that Dion unlike Incog stands up for his teammates. I'm sure Bill Belicheat agrees with you.

One of the good thing HC McD has done to turn the Bills into a playoff team is to change the culture of the organization. Judging people based on non-character items is a stupid character flaw in and of itself. No one expects him to parent their kid, but his teammates can reasonably demand that he judges people based on their character and not on irrelevant issues. The Bills players also represent our community, Incog has already burned through any benefit of the doubt with his concerted campaign to undercut a teammate in Miami.

If one says something stupid after you have a history of being stupid then apologizing is a necessary thing to do if you choose to be a public figure. Incog has decided to use his great talents in sports to profit from being a public figure. If he4 wants to say whatever he wants he can easily do this by not becoming a public figure. Like it or not Incog has chosen to put himself in a well compensated position which requires him to be a good entertainer, good teammate, and reasonable person. he certainly failed to do this in Miami and by staying silent he laves the appearance that might also be the case here.Incog did not raise a question he might be a bad teammate in Miami, he made it clear he was not.

The problem here is that Trump's past actions have included travesties such as making comments about a judge GOP leader Ryan described as classic racism, that Trump not only actively cited controversy over where Obama was born long after others acknowledged the reality he was as American as anyone, but he simply lied that he had hired investigators in Hawaii who would soon reveal shocking info, he also bought an ad calling for the death penalty of young men of A-A descent for a rape which DNA had proven they were not guilty of doing. What do you think is the difference between the countries that the Pres dubs s...holes and Norway might be? This actually does relate to what Inco did in that for rational people do alter their sense of who gets the benefit of the doubt and also where there is responsibility for advocating the truth after some one in the public sphere is publicized making racial, sexist, or off-color remarks. Once Incog was publicly on record making racist comments about a teammate, then he assumes the burden of proof to at least defending himself against public claims of additional racist comments. His (and his team's) silence is deafening. Incog is the on who made this bed and he has to sleep in it rather than declare its over.

My apologies. Though I do remember correctly that Incog rained taped racial disparities on a young teammate. I did forget it was the Rams Incog played for when he was on videotape making dirty plays (leg whips on defenseless opponents). If Incog is gonna make millions from being a public figure in an entertainment medium, he reasonably takes on the burden of not being an idiot. If he has already demonstrated he is an idiot and a bad teammate it does not strike me that he should leave a void in defending himself IF he is innocent. Richie made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.

Society will be changed when our society's leaders do not devolve to making silly raced based comments like countries run by people of color are s....holes and we need more Norwegians life will have good norms. Particularly, when there is a clear record of racial animus in the past, idiots like Incognito who have gained great benefits from being stars actually bear a reasonable burden of simply saying racism didn't happen if it didn't. He has said nothing in public about a public complaint. Unless those who profit from being public figures stand up and lead us to treat others reasonably, do not be surprised if our kids learn the lessons that acting like Incog did in Miami is fine.

Likely his teammates. Certainly reasonable if people with American racial minority are bothered by his remarks and also reasonable if folks not personally victimized by racism still find such a mindset distracting from the game and teamwork find fault. The problem here is that Incognito is on tape done by a former teammate making several Donald Trump like race based comments. No one needs proof of this particular idiocy when Incog already is on tape categorizing a teammate with stupid race based comments. The fact that Incog wll not defend himself if he used race based idiocy nor will his team protect him speaks volumes to logical folks. like our country, the Bills have other things to do, and if one of our leaders is so selfish he exposes his team to distraction, the idiot needs to be called out by right thinking people.

racial comments in Jags game. They had a bunch of professional football idiots like Jerry Sullivan commenting. Basically they said that the failure of Incognito and the team to simply say that the truth was Incognito and the team did not make any racial disparities was in itself deafening. Actually, while I think Sully is an idiot, like a broken clock he is actually right twice a day. They remarked that given that there is a void of official Bills commentary on the issue that Incognito given his history of dirty play early in his career in GB and the race based debacle in Miami, that Incognito does not get the benefit of the doubt. He, Caruuci, and the other sport pundits are simply correct that while Incog deserves the right to say what he wants, the void left by not saying anything leaves, the fans, his teammates, and the media to reasonably assume Incognito guilty. Too bad because he produces as a player, but if he continues to allow any good play by him to be overwhelmed by using racial slurs, the Bills should let Incognito go. I hate it when solid football performers are idiots as human beings. While

I think one of the primary cause of gratefully now over 17 year playoff drought has been our psychotic addiction to finding a franchise QB and in particular the new Jim Kelly which has led the Bills to make bad football judgment after bad football judgment that has resulted in us doing things like making athletes starters before they are ready (reaching to draft Todd Collins at rd 2, and then rushing him to start before the happy foot habit could be trained out of him, allocating too much cap space through mismanagement of the Flutie/RJ contracts, trading resource for the stupid Billy Joe Hobert, and a litany of miscues leading to the recent mangling of development of Peterman). The simple fact is: The Bills team was a surprise to most to even make the playoffs this year and with the second oldest roster in the NFL will almost certainly have to fight to "merely" make the playoffs again next year even if we reload in the next draft with a lot of picks and we repeat the success in drafting youngsters we had this year. This team IS NOT one franchise QB away from going deep in the playoffs and if our braintrust trades away the bounty of great draft picks to move up to get Rosen/Donald or whoever, it would be like putting a great V-8 engine into a covered wagon. The Bills need reloading on the DL, at LB, WR and finding the next Shady. We should not pass on reloading to get a Franchise QB, but instead look for a bridge QB to work with a reloaded team. The Franchise QB is best found by this team acquiring a high potential vet (Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater) and waiting until we build a solid team that actually is one player away before trading up for the next Ben Rothen...

The interesting about this list is that there are so few names on it as the key to winning the SB seems to be have a QB named Tom Brady. I think that analysis based on this one outcome (winning the SB) os a bit too limited for realistic analysis. For example, the realistic goal for the Bills this year was merely find a QB capable of getting this team into the playoffs. Congrats to TT for doing this, but see ya later and don't let the door hit ya on the way out as it is very doubtful you can lead us to the new goal which is to go deep in the playoffs. If you want your analysis to be relevant to reality, you might expand your universe of QBs to looking for patterns of the 4 QBs who led their team to the conference final.. Is there any consistency in how this pool is acquired?

One of the arguments I find odd is by folks who indict TT as being worthless as a QB and then seem to think this excuses Denison from blame for O suckitude (to use a technical term). I have even seen apologies for RD that claim TTs lack of ability handcuffed RD. Actually if one assesses TT as clearly being a bum, rather than this getting RD off the hook, it provides even another reason for canning him. Sure blame TT for not making the right choice in the Run/Pass Option play RD called, but the blame for failure here rather than falling solely on TT actually has to start with RD giving the RPO to a QB some folks say is clearly inadequate. If you hate TT and think he should be shown the door, then also sign right up to also get rid of RD for not calling for 3 straight run play from 1st and goal at the one. Add to this, RD participated in the stupid decision to start NP against the Chargers. This was a stupid move not because Taylor is great (he ain't) but because this was a stupid attempt at developing Peterman. I agree that he was one of (if not the) most ready to play QBs in the draft. However, ready to play as a #2 or disaster QB and ready to start are two different things. When your starter QB gets knocked out of the game it often seems to have the impact of the D laying back a little and the back-up does well. I call this the AVP effect a several times we saw Jimbo go down and AVP would come in and look like Joe Montana. Then the next week, the opponent would have a week to study film and install disguised coverages Jimbo would have shredded and AVP would be destroyed. RD and McD did NP and the Bills no favor by announcing early in the week NP would start, the opponent got to practice and lick there lips waiting for this NFFL concensus 5th round talent to start (even Tom Brady sat on the bench and learned the pro game until a freakish lung collapse injury removed Bledsoe in his second year. Not only was the dumb decision to throw NP to the wolves made, but it was done in a manner that maximized his chances to fail. I had (and still hope) he can become a good pro, but RD and McD panicked and may have butchered his self-confidence (that being said n the big picture a ton of praise and the rest of the team- including RD and TT for leading thi squad to the playoffs. I for one hope they can find a better cheaper QB than TT. However, the truth is there a shortage of QBs in this league and I easily think of worse cases than trying to do better next year with a better trained and managed TT. Still I much prefer we bite the bullet and overpay Cousins or trade vets for Andy Dalton. However , think both RD and TT share the blame for many of our failings and given the cruddy job of developing NP I think RD is most accountable for O faiulure.

You are WRONG in claiming RD was handcuffed by tyrod's failings. 1. RD could have called three straight runs from 1st and goal at the 1. Given your assessment of TT not being able to thro a simple out pattern don't YOU (and others who make this assessment) have given TT the choice by calling an RPO. 2. Further, RD (and McD) rather than being handcuffed by TT had the ability when they decided TT was not the franchise guy we wanted to judiciously develop Peterman into eventually be our franchise guy and as quickly as possible be our playing #2 (as soon as possible #1 QB). However, RD (and McD) demonstrated themselves to be horrible at young QB development by really throwing Peterman to the wolves by giving a 5th round drafted rookie a midseason start voluntarily. It seems pretty reasonable to me to demonstrate accountability for performance be it a raise or a firing or essentially public questioning as being part of the "process." It seems to me both Tyrod and RD deserve both great praise (for manning pivotal roles ending the 17 year drought AND also serious questioning whether they have demonstrated the successful attributes to not only make the playoffs but also make /win the SB.

Yes, this fact reflects badly on Tyrod and is yet another case that shows he is not gonna be the man capable of winning (or simply even getting a berth) the SB. However, he mistake made by some us armchair analysts would be to somehow also concludethis lays the blame on TT and exonerates Denison (or even McDermott). On the contrary, the failed play is a clear indictment of Denison for calling an RPO that gave the flawed TT the option to throw a pass he had failed to complete for a TD many times before. The bad results of the play are factually an indictment of Tyrod that he is not a good enough player to take the Bills deep in the playoffs AND it also is an indictment of Denison that our OC is not the man to take us deep in the playoffs if he could not see what is obvious to many (such as you I believe) and RD made a badly flawed decision to call a play which relied on Tyrod to take and perform the right option. Add to that RD (and McD) have as one of their prime responsibilities to develop young QBs and they appear to have totally mismanaged the proper development of NP (they threw this potentially very good pro to the wolves by making trhe unprecedented decision to make a consensus NFL rated 5th round picked rookie the man given the reins. It is not unreasonable at all if McD demonstrated the importance of accountability in "the process" by showing both TT and RD the door.

Cousins would be great! I am flat out opposed though for trading up to get 1 of the top QBs in the draft as: 1. We need to use the draft to fill other essential needs to make this team an SB winner A. DT pass rusher/run plugger to replace likely retiree Williams and trading Dareus B. WR support and competition for Benjamin/Green/Matthews/Thompson C. Eventual replacement and immediate back-up for Shady D. LB quality and depth E. OL competition F. Potential late QB development pick 2. The top rookie QBs (Donald, Rosen, etc) appear years away from being starters 3. McDermott deserves great praise for leading the teamk to the playoffs and Beane praise for loading up on draft choices w/o having to tank. However, the braintrust shows no ability to develop young QBs (I fear they may have destroyed NPs self-confidence and his teammates faih in him by foolishly panicking and throwing him to the wolves in mid-season). I'd hate to see us giveaway needed draft resources to trade up for a QB we would mismanage his development as we did with NP or management and playcalling as we did with TT.

I doubt it. Denison still makes the same dunb play calls even with a better QB. Its fine with me if they can TT, just replace him with someone better (who do you want?) and also get an OC who makes obvious calls like on the first and goal. Given Tyrod is so bbad what do you think of him relying on TT to pass at the end of the half?