Billsfan1972

I was waiting for this thread.......😉🤣 I hate "The Process" and how people here are either for or against McD. I will not panic yet, however this can get old very quickly unless they go on a run.

Maybe it is going to Scotiabank Arena (Maple Leafs & Raptors)? November 2021 it was the Toronto Raptors (lost to KD & the Nets).

I consider myself very lucky to have missed the game. Last game I missed was Jacksonville in 2021. Obviously a pattern.....😉😆

Friend invited me to see Peter Gabriel (yes we're dinosaurs😉) and agreed without thinking (and no way to back out). So the plan was to tape and watch when I got home and fast forward a chunk of the game. Son texts me about Rodgers injury (@ 8:20) and a cart being called and thus know he's out and figure it will now be a blowout. Leaving game friend sees the the game on TV in a bar through the window and stops as it is the last 10 seconds, I tell him I'm watching at home since taped, but now it's ruined as obviously a close game and I see Bass tie it. Since there now is no point and disgusted that the Bills have put up all of 16 points listen on the radio and then some commentary on the ride home. Nothing to say, will peak here during the week, ignore most of the talking heads and am shaking my head in disbelief. Simply put they better put up 35+ vs. the Raiders.

I guess the lines only have their O/U at 10.5, with no one over 11.5, so that isn't terrible, but last year's 13-3 (where they blew all three of the losses) seems untenable.

Thought you'd appreciate it!!! Should I have mentioned McD in the OP?😜

Sorry don't pay too much attention in the offseason or pre-season. Yes free agency and read up on the Bills picks in the draft, but that's all. I already had 12-5 as the expected record and a 1 or 2 seed. Now I'm reading division up for grabs and a dogfight to make the playoffs. What did I miss?

Then what is Mahomes????? Are you saying Mahomes is a great QB & Allen only a great player who is a QB? Very few QB's win a Superbowl and we can add Hurts to the list above too as he has yet to win???? Again Shaw66 I expect McD shoulders none of the blame either????

And that brought their ranking up to 18????

Is it so big an ask to want one more good receiver? Oh I forgot it's all on Allen.

Winner winner chicken dinner...... Why are the Dolphins, Bengals (with Burrow an MVP candidate), Chargers, Cowboys & Eagles so much higher than the Bills? The Bills should be investing in their most important asset, which is Allen and be better wrt their receiving corps. That is my concern.

And that is acceptable? Asking for a friend......😉

As said until the season starts I really don't get too excited (thus my departure annually after the Bills are eliminated & I no longer posts and obsess on play calling). The point is look at the top of the list and how they make qb's better and then there's Mahomes and Allen having to make due..... Interesting MVP Candidates Burrow, Hurts & Herbert there along with the overpaid and disliked Cousins, of course the overhyped Cowboys and Dak and most protected qb (anyone playing for the 49'ers).

While still not week one and really have little to say until the season starts, thought this may spur some discussion. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/8/17/23834765/rankings-the-nfl-best-past-catcher-receiving-group-2023 Interesting how low the Bills and Chiefs are on this list, which really then shows how highly they think of Mahomes & Allen. Conversely Cincy, Dallas, SF, Chargers, Vikings, Eagles near the top. I have no comments outside I too give most of the credit to Allen for the Bills performance on offense, but let's hear the experts here debate it.

Again huh? You're trying too hard. But for you here goes. KC defers and Philly walks down the field scores td. KC gets ball at 2 minute warning and like the Bills get nothing and down 10 points at half. KC gets the ball to start the second half and flips the game scoring 7 quick points (Bills labour and still have first & goal and then peter out). Heck Philly then responded with their own long drive, but settle for a FG (Cincy scored a TD). These are 4 of the top 6 teams in the playoffs and games 3 weeks apart watched by millions, not just home team fans. Sorry I refuse to accept that Cincy is a better team. The Bills just were ill prepared and flat.

How so? Exact same scenarios in the playoffs with equally matched teams (oh and one had homefield advantage) & one team stepped up to the challenge, the other did not. It was eerily similar imo.

Exactly what this thread alluded to. And this post within it. I understand the OP comments. Seems like the "poisonous" label come more from missing out on the super bowl, suspect coaching, bad drafting etc. For me the poisonous comment stems more from (a lot) of the board members sniping at one another. This board is supposed to be fun and to share thoughts about the Bills and football. Too many posters are determined to prove their thoughts and comments are always right, even if it means in-fighting with other members. Please loose the always right attitudes everyone! It's keeping many of us from wanting to share our thoughts in a fun, respectful way. Add to that people who think they are just "too cool" and post responses like above. I had an observation (and yes noted many times after the Cincy game, my displeasure over those two specific drives by the Bills), which I thought may spur some conversation and yes I did think was of interest and this is a message board and wanted to post. You guys never cease to surprise me. Keep it up.

Yesterday I noted in another thread and on Sunday with my friends I said the exact same thing as it was happening. The first half the Eagles pretty much were moving the ball at will and if not for a horrendous fumble were dominating. However it was 21-14 (KC one offensive TD). Cincy was doing the exact same with the score 17-7. KC get's the ball finally at the 2 minute warning and with the second half kickoff and this is when the game can switch. They actually bomb, 5 plays, a kick and Eagles have time (not enough unfortunately for them) and kick a fg and a 10 point HT lead 24-14. Buffalo exact same situation and actually are looking great on offense and effortlessly move to the Cincy 39 and then three lousy calls, a punt and down 17-7 at half. Now look what happened. KC is pissed, some changes at half and new found determination and score a TD in 3 minutes and it was a game. Buffalo came out moved the ball, but was laboured and first and goal inside the 10 and again 3 unmotivated plays later only 3 points to show for it. Now let's also not forget Philly on offense was fine the second half (they punted one time, which was returned 65 yards to the 5 yard line). Two games, almost identical situations and one team stepped up, the other did not.

Please clarify. Absolutely right a win is a win & style points don't count, but every week many expected things to get better and things to click and they never did. I was at the forefront concerned things were off and was told "Not to worry". The Bills I'm convinced were a 13-3 team, but maybe 11-5 would have lit a fire under them and the coaching to change things come the playoffs?

Yes us "malcontents" are out in force and have turned this place poisonous. I love the title of this thread and the OP and how upset he is that people post their thoughts on the Bills. During the year the Bills went 13-3 and those three losses were all mind numbing and really could be blamed on bad luck, bounces, coaching, play calls or situational awareness. But again after the bye week things slowly took a turn and some here noted that things were off and though injuries certainly played a part, the team kept winning, but in general did not seem to be playing at expected levels. And when those concerns were raised here, they were for the most part drowned out by the majority. So then came Cincy and yep what a clinker, but it affirmed much of what was said and commented earlier and yes the season and expectations dashed and as is want we crawled out from the woodwork and said "Told you so". No Cincy & KC are not head and shoulders better then Buffalo, so those who try and rationalize it I'll disagree. This is still a SB winning team and next year I hope all you "others" come here the second week of February and say "Told you so, Buffalo Bills SB Champions" Then I'll be the one to start a 2024 post saying how Poisonous this site is.....😉

The point of the show is that 90% of those watching the show have never seen these performers live so it is about the performance and putting.on a show. The chores and whole look was boring. However listening to these entertainment shows all are fawning. Ot was very boring and I'm fine with her music.

Huh? Please explain?

Agreed and maybe as said better to go into 2023 as just one of the SB contenders, as opposed to the favourite. But sorry 13 seconds was worse then anything (I canceled my SB party because of it). What the Cincy game did was unfortunately validate a lot of what many said was apparent from the second half of the GB game on and what McD didn't address or have answers for and in the Cincy game seemingly did absolutely nothing to turn it around. BTW let's compare that to yesterday and the exact same scenario. KC down 10 pts at half and failed in their two minute offense to end the half and they come out with urgency and score. They allow a FG and then score again. They came out of the halftime and reacted like champs and the Bills as stated in the same scenario were still in it and preverbally 'rolled over".

And I want the Bills to win the SB in 2023 9well February 2024), so yep win in spite of McD.......😉 Do you really think that Fans "Hate" McD more then their want for the Bills to win a SB?

Stop with the Process. Shaw you're one of the best people on here, thoughtful, intelligent, with an eye for the game, but have drank the McD Koolaid. He has invested way too much in the defense, got so lucky with Allen & added one offensive player in Diggs. The rest has been meh at best.