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To answer the question posed, obviously it is not over till the Bills are eliminated officially. That said, I have not seen anything, on any side of the ball, that encourages me that this team is anything but mediocre. It is a major disappointment to me that they are as inept as they have been. If I hadn't seen the same players on D perform in recent years, i would say they aren't competent but I know that isn't true. Their pass rush, whether scheme or personnel, is not there this year. They don't pressure offenses. They rarely get turnovers. They don't force fumbles. Offenses rarely have negative plays.The only thing going for them are their corners. They have real issues at safety with Aaron Williams out as Duke Williams just doesn't cover well. The linebackers have been meh. The penalties on ST are just beyond annoying. The lack of discipline in general is ridiculous. Gay and Schmidt have been the most consistent members of perhaps the whole team. The Offense has excuses with the injuries. I still don't like what I am seeing on the O Line at times but I'd like to see them with all their weapons. That said, the 2 minute drill at the end of the game yesterday was so abysmal it is hard to describe. Incompetent timeouts called, terrible play selection. Ugh! Looks like they have never practiced it but I am sure that isn't true. Until I see with my own eyes that the D is better and the ST are capable of making a play without a penalty I have a very hard time thinking this team is going anywhere. I am sick to death of the head coach blathering on about what we will see. Game after game it never seems to change. So are they done before Halloween? I think so unless they show marked improvement.

We look like an expansion team on offense. It would be nice if the defense decided to go all in this week for a change. It is the only hope. Win ugly like at Tennessee.

You want to wait 2 years? Oy! Most undisciplined and stupidest team I've seen here in a while.

Of course they took Dareus out on 3rd down in the 2nd half I don't know how many times. The dude had 10 sacks last year and gets push up the middle. This team is a mess: no pass rush, injuries all over on the offense to skill players that cannot be replaced, atrocious special teams penalties. I have no idea what Rex has done to our defense but I wish he'd stop.

Anybody know anything about him? Bills have bad experiences with him?

Has anyone heard anything about whether the Bills are going with Dan Carpenter to kick off? With Cundiff gone it certainly looks like it but i haven't heard this mentioned. While I understand the arguments against keeping 2 kickers, I was in favor of keeping Gay. I thought he did an excellent job at what he did and teams rarely got outside the 20. What they did last week made little sense to me. If Cundiff didn't beat out Carpenter during the week then why cut Gay and make yourself weaker at that position? Especially in light of cutting Cundiff this week it makes even less sense. I never thought Carpenter had the strongest leg on kickoffs but I guess we'll see.

Cinci now favored by 2 1/2 to 3 depending on the book. That opening line of pick em made no sense to me whatsoever. If I were a bettor I would have jumped in on it. I have a feeling line will close near Bills plus 3 to 3 1/2

I have a hard time understanding that line! Did they not see that offensive debacle in Tennessee? Our offensive line? 2 straight losses at home? Down to off the street running backs? Cinci scoring like crazy? It just makes no sense to me. I don't bet but if I did i'd be all over Cinci. Is that really what they are trying to push people to do?

I don't know why people keep assuming a grade 2 hamstring injury is 3-4 weeks. Everything I've seen on line (I'm definitely NOT a doctor so perhaps I am totally wrong as is the information I am seeing) is 4-8 weeks. Rehabilitation and return to playTimeframes for rehabilitation and return to sport vary depending on the nature and severity of the strain. As a general rule, Grade 1 hamstring strains should be rested from sporting activity for about three weeks and Grade 2 injuries for a minimum of four to eight weeks. In the case of a complete rupture (Grade 3 strain), the muscle may have to be repaired surgically and the rehabilitation to follow will take about three months.

I agree. They seemed all full of themselves yesterday and didnt show up till the 2nd half. When they finally woke up penalties, a fumble, bad play calling on the goal line and bad tackling finished them off. This team acts like its already won something. It drives me crazy to see them not compete on both lines against a team that had starters out on both sides of their lines. Their focus was terrible on Sunday and so was the game plan from what i could tell. It is hard to make the playoffs when you lose home games to teams with lesser talent than you have. With the Bengals coming up in 2 weeks, the Titans game is taking on must win status.I just hope they show up mentally for it.

I agree with your post completely. This team struts around like peacocks thinking they've done something big and impressive and they haven't done anything of consequence really. I thought they were out coached badly in the 1st half and played with zero passion, like the Giants were just going to hand them the game because the big bad Bills beat Miami. Jeesh that was really really hard to watch.

Joe Philbin (maybe at halftime). This team has quit on him.

This Dolphis team looks like it can't wait to get Joe Philbin fired. Dreadful.

Yesterday was tremendous. Just a complete beat down of a team that looks like it wants to get its head coach fired asap. I am concerned about Watkins. Even when he isn't targeted a lot he opens things up for other guys and teams need to account for him. I saw where Victor Cruz has been out like 6 weeks with a calf problem. I am not a doctor and I dont know if all calf injuries are the same but I sure as hell hope Watkins isnt looking at that much time out. We seem to have so many muscle injuries in our skill players I really would like them to look at what their trainers are doing and change things if necessary.

I kind of understand it but I totally do not like it. I think it is very short sighted. Some times contributions to winning teams comes from more than the measurables. Fred can contribute in so many ways to this team. I'd take him over Bryce Brown in a heart beat. I wish they had let him play this year and give him the option to retire afterwards. You can find a dozen Bryce Browns in the draft from round 4 on so why not keep the intangibles on this team this year. Hate the decision

I'm still not sold on Koundjio. Like to see them keep Cordy, who I think is a very good LT when healthy, and Henderson. Will really need to keep Gilmore though

I know it is only preseason but they look disciplined, organized, creative and well coached. We haven't had good, experienced position coaches throughout the staff like we do now in forever. It's encouraging

Darreus, Gilmore and Cordy then Bradham. End of season

From what I can tell, the Bills have only had 1 turnover ( int by Sims) through 3 games. I can never remember so few in preseason. I have no idea if it means anything but I am pleased that they've been sharp and disciplined enough to avoid them. I hope this trend holds up. It will definitely augur well.

Tyrodosaurus-Rex. Done deal

Tyrodossaurus-Rex! I for one certainly hope so.

I wouldn't be upset if we traded for backup O Line help. Our 2nd and 3rd team guys have been awful. It's lucky EJ made it to the 3rd game without getting killed. Urbik is serviceable at center and guard, Kouandjio might be Ok on a temporary basis at tackle. Beyond that I see nothing that will help. That's pretty thin.

He is one fo Whaley's favorite players. I do not see this happening under any logical scenario

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