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  1. 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I had a first on Orlando Brown and never waivered because of the underwear olympics. Dude could play on tape and that is what mattered.

    Yes, but the difference between us is you are a very serious evaluator, and my method is ad hoc.  I wish I could remember the assessment I relied on, but he said something similar, go by the tape, not the measurements (I seem to recall he flat out bombed the combine, yes?). 

    Since I only look at a few highlights for players I'm interested in, I didn't have the steadfast belief that someone like you would have.  I think my picks followed the rankings more closely after that first pick. 😅

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  2. 4 minutes ago, Virgil said:

     

    So this is year 6?  Wow, it's crazy how much it all blurs together

    It might even be longer than that?  That's one of the few things I remember from these drafts, so checking the year he was drafted tells me that was 2018.  I certainly don't remember if 2018 was the first draft I participated in?

  3. Btw @Virgil, your "running of the draft" goes back to at least 2018 because my current pick reminds me of my R1 pick in that draft. Can't remember what team I as picking for, but it was late in R1 and they needed a lot of OL help.  Despite the consensus on him, I selected Orlando Brown Jr in R1.  I certainly got panned by a few participants, but he turned out to be a pro bowl player.  Just shows you drafting is as much a crap shoot as it is good evaluation. For me it's the former, not the latter.

  4. With the 34th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the 6-time Super Bowl Champion  (I hope you hate reading this as much as I hate typing it) New England Patriots select:

    Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma@gonzo1105 and the Arizona Cardinals are on the clock.

     

    Having taken their QB of the future in R1, the Patriots are extremely happy find Guyton available to protect McCarthy's blind side.  The Patriots are much higher than most teams on the athletic but raw Guyton and would've considered jumping the Ravens had trades been an option.  With former Bill Conor McDermott currently slated in as the starting LT, we expect Guyton to learn the" Patriot Way" quickly and will transition him into the starter's role over the course of the season.  

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  5. 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Lol, it’s a different world than it was in 2014. The salary cap in 2014 was $133M. The top 10 highest cap hits for a wr in 2014 averaged $12m or 9% of the salary cap. So basically, the teams with the highest paid guys paid them 9% of the cap. In 2024, they average over $26M and 10.3% of the cap. That is BEFORE Jefferson and Chase sign their extensions. That number will be roughly 12% when they do. We need to STOP comparing situations to different generations. For perspective 3% of the current cap is almost $8m of cap space. What happened at WR in 2014 is not comparable to 2024.
     

    It's not the cap that did him in.  He gambled on Watkins and (eventually) lost.  For Many reasons of course.

    That said, I'd be more supportive of a move like this with last year's roster vs the current one, which is in the middle of a rolling reboot. 

    I could be convinced to get behind your move though. There's more than one way to get to the big dance.

  6. 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:


    Motorin actually offered me the two ones and I would have hoped Fashanu or Odunze dropped and neither did so I would have been slightly reaching for Brian Thomas or taking Quinyon Mitchell who I have as the # 1 CB 

    Yeah, he was already trying to wheel and deal, offered me a boatload for #3!

  7. With the 3rd pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the 6-time Super Bowl champions select J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan.

    @gonzo1105 and the Arizona Cardinals are on the clock.

     

     While most expect the Patriots to select the LSU QB, Eliot Wolf seeks to have lightning strike twice from the same college with another Michigan QB.

     

     

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  8. 18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I agree in terms of their talents. And three years ago I might have agreed with what they'd do. But I suspect they do feel just a little bit of urgency given everything. Maybe Newton just goes much earlier (I'd take him at #9 if I was Chicago and the top 3 WRs were gone - he is my top ranked defensive player) and it saves any debate.

    You did state that you could see the Bills moving up or back here, and I think that is more likely than Beane picking a WR who is a borderline R1/2 talent over a top 15 talent.  Again, this is just based on your scenario. 

     

  9. On 3/29/2024 at 8:46 AM, frostbitmic said:

    I like the Mitchell pick to the Bills, at least he hasn't shrunk two inches like Franklin and Legette.

     

    I see a lot of people that want Newton @28 but the Bills are already paying Oliver as the 3tech and drafting another 3tech in the first to play maybe 1/3 of snaps probably isn't the best idea. I think Newton will be long gone before #28 anyways.

    Given @GunnerBill’s scenario here, I think Beane would take Newton, because he sticks to his board, not decisions about possible playing time. Newton is a top half talent and Mitchell a (very) back half one. 

    if the Bills are truly set on picking a WR, then I would think the optimal decision is to trade back if Newton is there. 

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  10. 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    Let's get this straight

     

    No line position in the NFL is easy to play... 

     

    When I say physically the easiest... I mean there are more lineman in the NFL who can play center then tackle... And there are more people that can play center than guard... There are a lot of college/nfl guards and tackles that can physically play center... There are less college/nfl centers that could also play guard and tackle

     

    A left tackle has to be 6'5 320 and move like a basketball forward.. physically very tough... The modern NFL is now putting the best speed rushers over the right tackle

     

    So he also has to be very athletic and big...

     

    Jason Kelce is a Hall of Fame center but he is physically not even big enough to play guard.. those guys are 320 lb... He's 280

     

    It's the least physically imposing position... But you have to be the smartest

     

    Again none of this means a center is weak or not athletic... There's just more NFL quality lineman who can physically play center than other positions

    Thanks for clarifying.  I think Badol provided an answer right after your post too.  There aren't a lot of Ted Washington's in the league anymore, so the C doesn't have to be as physically dominant anymore, though I imagine that a C who has all attributes is ideal in order of importance--intelligence, agility to pull and/or get to the second level, and strength to take on a bull rush solo.

  11. Just now, Buffalo716 said:

    Well like the guy above me said

     

    Centers including Jason Kelce admit its physically the easiest

     

    They have the highest percentage of double team blocks and the lowest percentage of one-on-one blocks

     

    Most centers are doing combination blocks with a guard not taking a nose tackle one on one

     

    That might only happen a few snaps a game

     

    They are usually combination blocking and moving up to the second level or anchoring and helping a guard in pass protection

    To be specific.  Do you mean physically strong or do you mean agile?  I imagine LTs have to be more agile than strong to deal with speed rushers, and I imagine RTs need a little more physical strength to deal with strong-side DEs. The ideal C I think would be physically strong, agile, and intelligent.

  12. 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    A lot of people don't realize that center is physically the easiest to play

     

    There are a lot of linemen that are physically able to play the position... It's mentally challenging

     

    So you need to have the a high football IQ to be successful..  but lineman are usually also some of the smartest people on the team

     

    There are so many options to develop an NFL center...

     

    Including taking college tackles who aren't athletic enough to play NFL... There are a lot of options and it's a position that gets groomed

    I'm not sure what you mean by "physically easiest"?  Centers have to deal with the biggest, strongest dudes on the DL, the 1-techs (yes, they often get help).  I remember reading an article where Bill Parcells talked about bringing in Kevin Mawae specifically because he needed someone who could physically match up with Ted Washington.

  13. 2 minutes ago, TPS said:

    Good question. I seem to recall we had a WR who was this type of RB/WR hybrid but can't come up with the name?  He wasn't as talented but similar build, not as fast.

    Could be I'm just old and thinking of someone not on the Bills...

    Found it on football reference--Josh Reed.   He was actually more talented than I remember.

  14. 43 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

    Of recent BILLS receivers who would Samuel compare to? Gabe Davis? John Brown? Robert Woods? Or who? 

    Good question. I seem to recall we had a WR who was this type of RB/WR hybrid but can't come up with the name?  He wasn't as talented but similar build, not as fast.

    Could be I'm just old and thinking of someone not on the Bills...

  15. 32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

    Trade a 2nd and a 6th plus a 2025 2nd for Houston's 1st and 7th. 

     

    That is to give them ammunition to get up again for a QB surely? 

    Oh, I thought Micah Hyde found a new home....  😎

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  16. 31 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

    Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7.  Success % 51.5

    Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2.  Success % 48

     

    Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything.  He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis.  

    Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis?  He doesn’t stay as healthy. 

     

    You must have missed the 4 or 5 posts that listed the QBs he played with...

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  17. 8 minutes ago, njbuff said:


    It’s reloading.

     

    The Bills have 20 of the 22 starters set.

     

    It’s all about depth and Beane can usually pull a rabbit or two out of his hat pertaining to that.

     

    Not worried about the Bills in the least until the divisional round. It is at that point where the waters start to get murky.

     

    Unless Allen goes down, the Bills are ALWAYS a contender. The rest of the team has to catch up to him starting in the divisional round though.

    Yes, it's kind of a rolling cap restoration project.  Don't make any big splashes this year; establish a competitive starting team; draft WR and DL with your first two picks; stock the PS and some of the backup positions with remaining draft picks; then do a second cap purge next year with Von and...? Their O will be dynamic enough for Josh to take them to a SB.  If not this year, they will be back in position to make the necessary moves next year.

  18. 18 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

     

    Gotta remember those picks displace players on the lower scale of the 51 active man roster.  At least once you get past the 3rd or 4th round. 

    .Yes, which is why the $12 million paid by Terry is not equal to the cap hit.  OvertheCap's cap hit estimate of $3.25 million is pretty accurate, vs Spotrac, which is now down to $6.7 million estimate. 

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