BringBackOrton

You can stop the clock with a spike. You can’t control a lateral when you throw the ball mid tackle while you’re horizontal. The lateral was the worst football play I’ve seen by a Bill ever. I’d rather have Jamies Winston as my QB

Another career claimed by the mediocrity of the Bills.

Explain the lateral.

Yeah that was the difference today. Josh gets a better WR and he stops throwing jump balls to FB’s or lateraling with 59 seconds on the clock.

EJ’s London game.

Part of me is convinced the OL let 41 light up Josh on the sweep because he had his head up his ass for the last 10 minutes.

They got the kid a 16 point lead. He managed to phantom fumble untouched, throw two near pick sixes, and then melt down. An intentional grounding and then a 20 yard sack? He’s not a winner.

Did Sir Andrew ever recommend a desperation lateral in a 3 pt game with 50 seconds left on first down?

Downside of Daboll in the booth, he can’t see Josh’s body language. Every time the camera was on him, you could feel his anxiety. I would have called 10 runs in a row before I let him throw again like that.

I wasn’t getting paid millions of dollars to win football games. Josh looked like a 16 year old out there. The stage was so big it enveloped him.

So-so? I thought I was watching EJ in London in the second half. Josh was absolutely out of control. You could hear him hyperventilating.

***** Josh Allen. Guy looked like a Wyoming QB way over his head for half of the game. He needed his dad to tell him to chill the ***** out.

Sick poll.

He’s gotta tell boys to run the “don’t drop the ball” play.

Don’t you ever apologize to me! We definitely both hope Watson plays like Peterman today.

You call me disingenuous? How bout instead of calling it “double” the drop rate, you give the context of # of dropped passes per game difference it truly is? Does drop rate affect his bad throw rating? Does it affect his on target percentage? No and no, which is why I picked those stats. Unless you think Zay Jones dropping a pass or two means that Allen put more in the hospitality tent.

No. If a 4% bad throw rate isn’t significant, neither is a 3% difference in drop rate.

Drop rate is excluded in on target throws. It’s the point of the stat. It’s also not taken to account in bad throw percentage. A difference of 4% in bad throws is miniscule but a difference of 3% in drops is significant. Interesting. That’s a new one, being accused of “cherry picking,” when I provided 7 stats. None of the stats you provided demonstrated that Allen is better than or equal to Watson, rather that his supporting cast is better. Another interesting point. Please demonstrate the advance stats that Allen beat Watson in. If they are “really close,” there has to be at least a few that Allen is better at, right? If a contest is 10 to 1, is it really close? Or 12 to 2?

Let’s do that: TD%: Watson with 5.3 to 4.3, a full percentage better. INT% is 2.4 to 2.0. Y/A: 7.7 vs 6.7, Watson. A full yard more per attempt. 1st downs: Watson with 191 compared to 146. That’s a difference of 45 1st downs!! And yes, Watson did have 34 more attempts but that’s still a large difference. Watson also had 62 more completions on the year. On target%: Watson 9th in the NFL, Josh 21st. Bad throw%: Josh with the 5th most, Watson with the 22nd most. Batted balls: Josh with the 13th most balls batted at the line despite being 21st in attempts. Deshaun Watson was 24th despite being 16th in attempts. Completed air yards per attempt: Watson 9th, Allen 14th. It’s certainly close in the way the 15th best QB in the NFL is closer to the 6th than he is to the 32nd, but definitely not close in the sense that there are a lot of statistical categories that each QB beats the other in.

He admitted he was wrong about Jackson. We all now look forward to your admission that you were wrong about Polian. Yeah no. Not even close.

Anyone concerned about the shoes Whitney Mercilus is wearing? Pouncey was kicking at Myles Garrett a couple weeks ago after that fight, think we should try to get the Texans’ shoes banned?

I don’t believe it’s the most important but it is important. I think that 21st in the NFL in on target passing means there’s room for improvement. Especially when Josh is top 5 in bad throw%.

What does that number tell us in a vacuum without a comparison vs the rest of the league? PFR has a nifty stat called “on target passing.” It excludes spikes and throwaways. It’s your percentage of throws on target. Josh ranks 21st in the NFL.

Everyone has the right to be wrong. “Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong” is not my take. My take is that anyone who takes Allen over Watson at this point is wrong.

I just asked for the documentation. Your projection is showing.