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TT had almost the same team last year and the roster will be slightly better when the season starts even if we trade most of our picks (which I don't think we do or need to do to move up). McCarron is better than TT. IMO the deck is not stacked against McCarron.

IMO McCarron will be given a chance AND we will draft a QB who will also be given a chance. The two are not mutualy exclusive. I think the only way McCarron doesn't start day one are...... - we draft Rosen - McCarron gets hurt - Peterman wins the job in TC (not likely)

Of course McBeane takes input from McD. McD is part of McBeane.

I disagree. I don’t think we will ever know why we didn’t pick a QB last year. But, at this time, this is my opinion... - almost fact, McD ran the draft with Whaley and teams scouting along with McD’s scouting and involvement - fact, before draft day McD knew Whaley was not going to be his GM moving forward - fact, we didn’t want a QB last year, as we traded out with all QBs available - IMO one or two things or a combo of two things happened —> McD didn’t want to pick a QB last year without his scouting team having the full year of the evaluation process —> McD didn’t want to pick a QB until he had his GM in place. So he and his new GM could agree on the QB they were going to hitch to their wagon to

Chargers didn't trade Brees. He as a FA.

I agree. Those seem close to (and probably) the facts.

Poppycock. Glenn wouldn’t have been cut!

Well....I guess you were wrong.

Silly question and thread!

There is always money in the banana stand

Really!?

I like Allen more than Jackson.

That is a lot to give up. If the FO thinks there is a guy to take.........then you do it. If not, you don't.

I think if the New York Football Giants are taking a RB they should trade out. I just don't see the value in a RB at #2. No matter how good the RB is.

Agreed and add in Eli X 2

Interesting question. I would hope he just moved to the next plan. However, I think he was probably surprised and needs to regroup.

1) No guarantee that Allen falls to us at #12 as another team could trade up next week as we're having our long interviews. --> I don't think Allen will be available at #12. IMO he will be gone. 2) No guarantee that Jackson falls to us at #12 as another team could trade up next week as we're having our long interviews. --> I think Jackson will be there at #12. I don't want him. 3) I'll quit the fanbase if we trade one of our 1sts for Foles if we get desperate for a QB. --> Trading #22 for Foles wouldn't be terrible. I believe in Foles. 4) Rudolf is never going to work out. --> Agreed that Rudolph isn't an impactful NFL QB. 5) Just because the jets have not been successful picking in the top 5 previously doesn't mean they wont now. --> True 6) We should absolutely be alarmed. --> Meh, disagree. We new we needed to get top 3 to get our guy. IF we have a guy? I believe we do have a guy we think is better than the rest.

Pretty much agreed to get to #2. Agreed Glenn got 2nd round value.

The New York Football Giants. Eli is not good. He is average and got hot a couple times. I am not even messing around. Eli is average. When he plays average, the NYGs are average. When he gets hot, they get hot. I think I just validated your point........

The only thing I am confident in this draft regarding the QBs is that Rudolph is not our guy. I don't believe McBeane will make a 6" QB our guy. McBeane has talked about their ideal QB and being tall is something they value. I am confident Rudolph is not our guy and feel pretty good Jackson is not either.

Barkley is not going #1. I would wager anything including my life!

Agreed that is what they will want. IF we LOVE a guy...it is worth it. If we don't love a guy, it is not worth it!

I would prefer Foles over Mason and Jackson.

I think that is the scenario. However, all teams could have these QBs graded differently. But, we don't we to leave our pick to chance, hope or luck that our guy is still there. Unless we don't have one graded MUCH better than the rest. IMO the top 3 are (in no order)....Rosen, Allen, Mayfield.

I totally think Rosen will fall to #3. Maybe #4 or #5.