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I don't ever expect him to match 2024 TD production. That would be a big ask. But his vision is so good that it definitely isn't fair to say he is just a product of the oline and Josh. He sees gaps that a LOT of running backs wouldn't see and get the maximum from them. I actually think he is still a tad underrated by Bills fans. And I say that as someone who remains in the "don't pay running backs" camp. Morris is not on the roster right now. Although I believe he remains unsigned....

Yea I think it is definitely in play. True but Cole was soooo bad when he was out there. I'm hoping a missed camp meant he was always behind and never caught up because it was almost too bad to be true.

When did this thread turn into pizza and real estate?

With the 72nd pick of the 2025 TSW Mock Draft v1.0 the Chicago Bears select: Charles Grant, Offensive Tackle, William & Mary I was considering interior defensive line as a possibility here but the run of offensive line picks in front of me meant the ice was getting pretty thin there and despite the capital spent in free agency and the trade market on interior blockers I remain of the view that an upgrade is needed at left tackle. A lot of people have had Grant as a guy who will need to play at guard in the NFL but I don't see that at all. I think he has elite length and excellent footwork and is the classic modern athletic NFL blindside protector. He could stand to improve his functional strength somewhat and coming from William & Mary will need to adjust to a much higher level of competition in the league. It might take until his second year to hit but if Grant hits he can be really, really good. The New York Jets and @DJB are now on the clock.

@Motorin'

Dyami was supposed to be a mid to late 2nd rounder. He went late 3rd. I actually think Williams will go in a similar place to Dyami. I don't think he will be a 2nd round pick. But I do think if the Bills want him they'd have to use a 2nd round pick on him, because I don't think he will last to #109.

I like Royals. I have a 3rd on him grade wise but I wouldn't hate them taking a shot at the end of the 2nd. I considered him as well but he offers you zilch as a receiver. He is the best blocking tight end in the draft.

Thanks @Ralonzo - it worked! This was my draft this morning. I think it is the best one I've done this spring. Another reason I liked it is because the first round was fairly realistic in terms of the ranges the guys there went in which always helps you follow the rest through in a somewhat sensible manner. Explanation of my process below: Round 1 I was left in a spot where my choice at #30 was essentially Scourton or Grant. I have Scourton slightly higher on my board (it's very close, but a point in his favour) and he plays a premium position. So I stayed true to my BPA at a premium spot ethos and took Scourton. Round 2 Not going corner in the first round meant there was some urgency there for me in round two. Luckily there were still some options on the board. Hariston, Amos, Morrison and Porter were all still there. My plan was to try and use one of my 4th round picks to get up for a corner if either - three of the four were gone OR Hariston or Amos were still there after pick 45. Hariston went at 45. So I then started offering teams one of my 4ths to come up. The first one that bit was Seattle at #50 so I sent them my later 4th (#139) to come up from #56 and snag Trey Amos who, as I explained in the TSW mock I'd be willing to take at #30 - he has the same grade as Grant actually by my board - because he is a literal perfect scheme fit for Buffalo's defense. Simpler at #62, Isaiah Bond was there, was BPA and if the off field stuff checks out would be a really good pick for the Bills. Round 3 Not having a 3rd rounder and not having addressed the need at DT I was determined to be aggressive once we got into the latter end of the round. Eventually I was able to swing a trade with our old buddies at the Giants by flipping them our first 5th rounder - #169 - to move up ten spots from #109 in round 4 to #99 in round 3 and get CJ West who I love as a player and think is a better fit for this team than some of the guys like Farmer and Norman-Lott who are being talked about in the late 2nd range. West would be the starting 1T by the end of his rookie year IMO. Round 4 Given my two trade ups in rounds 2 and 3 I had no pick. Round 5 This IS a good running back class. I think its strength is more rounds 3 through 5 than rounds 1 and 2 but even after the bigger names there are guys who can play. I've expressed the concern on these boards however, that drafting one this year is a problem if Cook remains because it is unlikely the Bills keep 4 running backs and Gilliam on the roster. Well here is a way around it.... draft Brashard Smith and he has a chance to stick in year 1 as your returner, something he did very effectively at SMU. So he doesn't take a running back spot on your roster he takes Codrington's role and then if you lose Cook after 2025 in he steps as your speedy home run hitter. He has some James Cook to his game. He is slightly smaller, so he is probably legitimately more a guy you use in a time share with say Ray Davis but he gives you that big play threat. Then with my second 5th rounder I took Kitan Crawford, an athletic safety, an older prospect, but versatile enough to play in the slot, the dime or either safety spot. He'd have a chance to win a job in a weak room. I actually have a late 4th on him. Round 6 The Bills are going to take a linebacker somewhere in this class and Duman-Johnson is their type. A bit undersized, but can cover and hits well for a smaller guy, will be a backup WILL and play some special teams. I also think they will take a tight end somewhere, but I expect that to be more of an in-line blocker who can do some short area security blanket stuff as a receiver, rather than an athletic seam threatener. Yurosek fits that description and I imagine the third tight end spot comes down to him of Davidson's more athletic pass catching skills with the loser of that battle spending the year on the PS and elevated if required. Definitely my favourite one of this spring. If this played out in 3 weeks time I'd be a happy guy.

Huh. I'll give that a try.

Nope. Kennard is a 3rd round grade on my board. Gillotte is a high 4. That's probably harsh because I do like his game. I ended up marking him down a bit because I think he is a tricky scheme fit. He sort of has the body of a 3-4 defensive end (a 4i / 5T) but the game of a bigger 4-3 defensive end. So I kind of end up worrying how he succeeds at the NFL level. I'm just having a scan now I think by my big board based on the way this draft has gone Bond is BPA. It goes: 1. Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas 2. Mason Taylor, TE, LSU 3. Cam Williams, OT, Texas 4. Marcus Mbow, IOL, Purdue They are the only guys I have left with 2nd round grades.

I don't know about the character stuff. It's all very hearsay. If there is something in it, he won't be the pick. He is comfortably the highest graded of any of the guys on the original poll by my board.

Agree on a small move back from #30. It makes more sense to me this year than it did last year. My question mark is about why a team might want to come up. The only two scenarios I can see is maybe a team at the top of the 2nd who didn't take a QB has eyes on Jaxon Dart or Sheduer if one of them is still there. OR Josh Conerly is the last left tackle option standing and someone in the early 2nd (Browns at #33 maybe?) wants to get in front of Kansas City.

I can tell you are wrong.

Can one of you clever techy people twll me how to embed an image? Whenever I try it just gives a link to whichever upload site I used. I just did a really good PFN mock that I want to share.

You have Dane in the wrong list. He is in thr Wallace, Lewis, Ingram list. Late round or UDFAs who are serviceable. Alex Austin has actually been that in the league too but we lost him at cut downs and I don't think you can give the Bills the credit for his development particularly. I get your point totally. Relying on a day 3 guy and McDermott to make wine from water is not a strategy. It's a hope. They have left themselves in a spot where they very likely need a corner within the first two rounds of this draft if they want better than absolute baseline serviceable starter play from Jackson. I think they will pick one at #30. But they shouldn't force one. Best player available at a premium spot is still the right law to live by.

I don't think specific allegations so much as personality questions. Been likened to Jermaine Burton by some.

Maybe. These guys have egos too though. The money is important of course but they don't want to be seen as failures.

It didn't hurt, certainly. But Harmon had the best pass rush win rate of any interior defensive lineman in college football. That is largely just because he is very talented.

I voted Bond. But Ayomanor is my 2nd choice, if the off field is as bad as speculated with Bond.

Sure. Financially it worked. Career wise it was the end.

I'd give them the edge too. Miami 9-8. New England 7-10. Jets 5-12.

Correct. It was a direct trade rather than a move up trade.

We traded for Bryce Brown, running back from the Eagles, during the draft. 2014 maybe?

It was.

In which case I just think you are not watching the right thing.