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I could never ditch the Bills just because of an owner. I dislike a lot of people's politics, but I'd be hard pressed to find someone I abhorred enough to make me abandon the team. Maybe the Koch brothers. Not just a loud mouth sideshow of a presidential candidate. Go Bills forever.

I believe being the first international owner in NFL history is the kind of groundbreaking thing to put him in the spotlight he might desire. Of course he's going to say he wants to keep them in Buffalo now, because he's smart enough to realize, as most on here have pointed out, that he's locked into Buffalo for at least 7-10 years regardless. Yes he'll make money in Buffalo, but he'll make more money elsewhere. A whole lot more. Again, as many have pointed out in previous threads, when you factor in more than just ticket sales (TV revenue, marketing/merchandising profitability, etc), Buffalo comes up just about dead last in terms of overall profitability and national exposure. But as you say, it still makes a ton of money, so it wouldn't be much of a risk to move anywhere else, because every NFL team makes that much $. Pretty sound idea to make a lot more money by moving actually. I'm not in his head though, so who knows. I just feel his tune may change after 7 years, especially if we haven't won or at least gone to a superbowl in that time. I can see where some of his big time persona may be a plus for the franchise, and I can also see where it would be a major negative. I could see this guy growing to hate Buffalo and Bills fans. Again, pure conjecture. On a selfish note, I'd really rather not have my NFL team universally despised by my friends and coworkers because of who the owner is. Where I work and live, it's safe to say the Donald is universally legitimately disdained or just though of as a complete joke. At least now they usually want to cheer with me for the underdogs! If we sucked AND were hated as bad as good teams that have earned haters... well I guess that wouldn't be shocking luck in the life of a Bills fan, actually.

Have to agree here. Just can't see him wanting to keep a team in WNY. When the time was right, he'd look to make the move. Whether to LA, Toronto, London, etc because it would be the biggest, hugest, most luxurious franchise in the NFL, and he'd want it in the biggest, hugest, most statement making city it could be. And as far as day to day business of how the team/organization is run, promoted, marketed, etc... You think Ralph was a meddling owner? Think about this guy for just another minute...

Agreed completely with no O lineman at 9 in this draft. Find that talent in later rounds. Mike Williams... never again!

He thinks the biggest obstacle to getting the Bills to move to Toronto is the welfare of the Argonauts? Wow. Can you get more pompous that that? I think there are more than a few people in Buffalo, the state of New York, and the United States of America who want to keep the Bills here for maybe just a few other reasons that might prove bigger obstacles to his dream.

Wow. I haven't posted on here since the season. Probably check out the conversation once a month or so. But for some reason, I neglected work for most of the day today, before this happened, reading up on all the conversation I've been missing. Must have been on here for a reason. RIP Ralph and Prayers for JK

My goodness everyone is angry. If they did this to you, you would try and beat them up... really? Theyre putting a foam ball in a net above your head, barely touching you. But especially if you were with your wife, youd be so disrepsected that you would have no choice but to physically assault a 20 year old. Thats probably true for a lot of bills fans, and thats the biggest problem with our stadium, fans, games. Everyone always thinks everything is an insult and wants to fight to prove how tough they are. No one is buying it. Just makes us look like neandrathals. Thank goodness the other teams fans in the video have a sense of humor and dont try to flex nuts by fighting pr instigating. Again, i reserve that this is hilarious, and i hope i see this in action next season.

I think it's hilarious. Everyone who got dunked on gets it and laughs about it. Adds to the fun atmosphere of the tailgate. You guys are old.

Touchdown pass to Graham... you nailed it. What a sight to see a Bills QB handling receivers not being open right away, scrambling, directing the route on the run, then delivering the TD pass. Sure do miss that.

Oh us. Attacking KW as if he's the problem. Please watch game film from yesterday and watch our linebackers get SWALLOWED UP on run blocks. Kiko and company were a non factor in the run. Absolutely decimated. Couldn't fight through one block. That was a much bigger issue. Check out the All 22 grading sometime. It is similar to coaches grading, but a little imperfect because the analysts can't determine exactly what defense (front, coverage, stunt, blitz, etc) was called. It still gives a solid indication of a player's performance. You will find KW near the top of that list for every Bills player, every week, every season. Love Kiko, great motor, playmaker. Needs to put on some size to take on NFL lineman. These aren't PAC 12 boys coming at him to run block him. He's a rookie, he'll get better, and he will be great. Rest of the linebacking core as run stoppers?...... boy do we need some work.

My brother went to UC Boulder. Ralphie (a real Buffalo) is their mascot. I love when they run him out! We need a Ralphie!

Those two are great. Again, I think fans have a tendancy to attribute every run that goes for a gain up the middle as a bad play for the D tackles. Every player on the defensive front is responsible for exactly ONE gap. There are six gaps in between the tackles. Of course it's awesome when you have a D tackle that can split a double team or shed a single man block to make a big play (which these guys do almost as well as anyone in the league). But if you really watch, they do an excellent job of controlling their gaps and not getting pushed around. Linebackers need to fill their gaps on runs as well. This is a big difference between the casual fan who just sees "run for a gain up the middle, must have been the big guys fault" and someone who is familiar with how defensive scheme responsibilities actually are in run defense.

UGHH I agree with you on about everything, but just pointing out the obvious in saying this is said every week! If we did this, we win, if we did that we win. It's always one play. But we always LOSE those games. Again, just the obvious. It just feels so lopsided.

All I want is to be a little more convinced that EJ is the guy to get us there. Just not sure yet. Otherwise I agree. This is a team with a lot of talent. At what point to they start to grind out the wins they need to make the playoffs? When EJ's back?

Sooner or later this team will find the guts it takes to win. Or they'll move to LA. In the meantime

Classic!

Might be harder to get Fortune 500 talent to take the same jobs in the Rust Belt region when most major companies and firms are centered in NYC and other major cities.

All I can say is that it was a tough loss today, we definitely got beat, but the team fought really, really hard. The effort's there, good game plan, just need a little better execution in some phases and a few more players. If these guys keep buying in and sticking with each other, and if EJ works out, we are going to have a pretty damn good football team. Go Bills.

We'll get tossed a bone here of there, our star players will get some national spotlight, but no major media attention until we get back to the playoffs.

Those ankles, like hamstrings or groins... You can get it taped up and feel pretty good all week in practice... until you really try to change direction or push hard in the game. Then you're just back to where you started and it can nag all season. Doesn't always feel like a terrible injury, but sometimes you just have to take a week or two and just sit. I understand he wants to play, but I'd rather have him at 100% in 1-2 weeks than 75% every week for the rest of the season.

Rob Ryan is one of the premier defensive minds in the game?

Truth. Great post by the OP. This kind of analysis gets more to what's really going on in the game than just YPG, RYPG, PYPG, etc... One of the most telling stats? "Looking further, the Bills have had the most defensive drives against them in the NFL with 96(average is 78)" Too many 3 and outs by the O. Gotta move the ball! I think the whole team continues to move in a positive direction, however. GO BILLS!

Go Bills. That's all.

Well, maybe CJ and Fred can get things back to normal for them.