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That is my concern, as well. One question I haven't seen much on is if an out of town bidder put in a higher bid, would the trust give other bidders the chance to beat that bid? I'm not really sure if there's a back and forth element or if you just submit one bid. Like people Have said, maybe Pegula bids 1.2 and Rogers 1.5... could he go 1.55 or something and beat them out? Maybe that's an unknown.

My mistake. 7 catches for 20+ yards and 12 catches for 10-20 yards. My estimate of yardage was overstated, his impact in the screen game was not. It was fantastic. It was rare to watch an NFL team screen that well. Helped having Levitre out in front on a lot of those. Not saying that screens should be our bread and butter for passing the ball (this isn't high school), but I believe our coaches could take at least one or two things that Gailey actually did do well and incorporate them. CJ doesn't do as well in a box. Get him in a 2 yd x 2yd box of space anywhere on the field and he's a threat to score. With a player like that, draw up a few things that give him space. And actually practice them enough so they can be run crisply in a game. Just my opinion.

Put me in the pro CJ Spiller camp. Is he the most complete back in the NFL? No. A few are better. Is he one of the top 10 most dynamic playmakers in the league? Yes. Coaches gotta find better ways to use that talent. You can count the number of screens they threw to him on on one hand. How many of those did he bust for 40+ yards the year before? I understand that marrone and hackett have a very distinct system and philosophy but you have to taylor more special touches for a player like that.

No, that was a low hit at the knee. That's unfortunate, and no one (well, I hope) wants to see anybody get seriously injured like that on the football field. I'm talking about just seeing him try to stand in there, not see Mario beat the tackle on an inside move, and drive his shoulder through Brady's scrawny chest and into the ground like a battering ram. I don't want to see the guy injured... just hit so hard they are thrown off their game. (Example: Ryan Fitzpatrick hit by London Fletcher so hard in Toronto he changed the way he stepped into the pocket. I know, he may have broken ribs in that hit. IMO he also changed the way he stepped up after that. Never say him step forward and deliver the way he did v KC, Oakland, and NE after that hit. He always did a little side step to throw when a defender was coming, causing the ball to float even more) C.Biscuit, totally agree it's a skill that good QBs have to avoid those hits. It makes us, as fans, call them soft when they hit the deck when they see that hit coming, but it's smart. That's why it makes me want to see Brady get crushed once in awhile even more

Tom Brady is a great player, and for some reason it just seems like he always avoids the big hit. I want to see a massive crunch laid on him this season like the one Mario laid on Tannehill last year in the game in Miami. Not the sack he caused the fumble on... the one before that drive. Do y'all remember that? Just a huge, clean, perfect form tackle through the numbers. I want to see Tom walloped like that. Nothing dirty. Just something huge. This is my wish.

Well I put $20 on the 100-1 odds to win it all so... they're gunna do great!

I'll give you four reasons he can't. Their names are Mario, Marcel, Kyle, and Jerry.

Not that I know of. But I've seen plenty of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8oKJbU5MCQ

I couldn't script it better. I swear I am not actually Security dual posting in order to win my own argument. It's just exactly what I said. This has been put to bed. Go Kyle, Go Bills, have a wonderful weekend.

Visit DC sometime. That's just a baby group. Not uncommon to see 30-40 pink segways rolling deep down the mall.

Yes! I got my bet in for the Bills while they were still 100/1 at the Venetian. $2,000 here I come.

Case closed. The legend continues.

No one is saying the team has been strong against the run. I'm saying you are misallocating blame on one player simply because he's been on the team during that time. Linebackers have been the biggest problem in our run equation. Please rattle off the list of our linebackers since Fletcher and Spikes left and tell me how many of them were even mediocre NFL football players. Complete garbage for the most part. Even last year with some improvement, Kiko was not a run stuffing MLB. He's a Will by nature, and that's where he will excel. Spikes and Rivers back there now with Kiko? I'm not going to start counting chickens, but we may have something here. The blame on Kyle is misplaced and not borne of fact. I understand how it looks to the casual fan, but from someone who played the game at a higher level recently, and someone who is in agreement with the majority of football people who grade player performance, we are in agreement that Kyle Williams is an excellent defensive tackle.

Mostly it rests on what I think of RGIII. Loved what he did in their offense in his first year. I believe his game rests on his ability to run with it. If he is a legitimate threat to take off, defenses have to account for that. Opens up the rest of his game and the rest of the offense. In his second season, that threat was gone. He was rarely going to run, and when he did it was not with everything he had to get to the goal line like the year before. You have to earn that threat by really taking off with it. You can't just trick defenses into coming out of coverage because you 'used' to be a running quarterback. The threat better be real, or they won't respect it. He could break out as a pocket passer I suppose. I just haven't seen it yet. He has an arm for sure, but I'm not convinced. You can say he was still nursing the injury, which is true, but it looked to me that because of the injury, he has made a mental decision to no longer run. Or he was coached not to run. Either way. Aside from him, new coach and a whole new system. Always going to be adjustment pains. Their defense was pretty trash last year. I think the stats hide how bad they really were. Fletcher was getting old but that is some serious leadership lost and a solid presence in the middle. With that division though... who knows. Maybe they have a shot.

Well said. Haters just gunna hate. KW is a big boss hog. He doesn't make every play, but he's a fine player and a great addition to our defense/team. Go Bills.

Interesting take. Not to be negative, but I tend to look at us as more of the wildcard category I guess. We could be a team to watch, but we could easily be 6-10 again. Redskins should be in the crap. I think they will be garbage this year. As bad or worse than last year.

This thread is a goldmine. First of all to your point, yes it's all about the money. I don't think Snyder ever really cared about the name. He's just a billionaire that bought the team. The city hates him, true skins fans hate him, and he knows it. I am of the opinion that he has been adamant about no name change because he wants to appear to be on the side of the die hards skins fans. Now that you threaten his money, however, watch his tune change real quick. He'll make it seem like his hand was forced, of course, and it was... by the threat of lost revenue. Secondly, Real Buffalo Joe, your post if hilarious. Last... well on second thought t's probably best if I just go ahead and stay out of the politics

There are 22 players on the field my friend. His role accounts for 4.5% of this football team, not counting special teams. Just because the team hasn't won doesn't mean he's not a great player and a great contributor. You've registered your rebuttal on the player vote. That has some merit, though I inherently disagree. I'd really like you to read my earlier post about "Grading" and hear your thoughts on that. No tongue in cheek, do you know what that is and how it works? Many fans do not. Do you think that the people who do that are lying? Wrong? Just curious.

Posts like these are why I read TBD. Hilarious.

No sir! Your post was just the most recent point of reference building off the post prior. Pardon my newb message board awareness if that's a faux pas Well who can argue with that. #AnalyticsDepartment

I was wondering when the KW haters were going to come out! I love their "arguments". He sucks. Run D aint good. Bills no stop run. I remember this one time I saw something that looked like a thing. Mungo want Duffs... please reference my earlier argument about independent grading that rates him as one of the most technically sound and elite d linemen in the league. Please reference the source of this thread, the top 100 players in the NFL, as voted by the players. The guys who, you know, actually know what it's like to play against him. Not you.

LOL Antonio Bryant? Study? I think he would either be too high to vote period or would be too conceded to vote because it would give props to someone other than himself. I was more thinking like wideouts being like "Yeah, that tackle is the tallest, has huge biceps, and lots of tattoos. He's clearly the best"

It would be cool if certain positions could only vote for the players that they played directly against. ie Only O-lineman can vote for the best D-lineman and vice versa. I think your right that the wideouts don't know jack about what's going on in the trenches for the most part. Likewise, the fatties (term of endearment for ourselves) don't know the first thing about what makes someone good in press coverage. Everyone on D would still vote on overall positions like QB, because everyone plays against some aspect of the QB (defensive backfield has to defend the pass, pass rushers have to try and bring the guy down). Even just limiting Offensive players to voting for only what they perceived to be the best defensive players and vice versa would probably be more representative. But agree with other posters that it's cool that our players get respect from their peers, the ones who really know how good they are.

Yes, they do a pretty great job at it IMO. Obviously only the coaches can get the grades 100% correct, because they're the only ones who ultimately know what each very specific responsibility was in that defense. By watching film, you can be about 95% sure what every player was supposed to do on any given play, however. You can do this because you know everyone is responsible for a gap, and if there is a gap left unfilled, you can almost always determine which bonehead missed their assignment. Even with complicated blitz packages and line stunts the gaps are covered, and you can break down who should have been where. ALMOST always. Description of their grading system, which is pretty much in line with most coaches I've seen on the college level, so assuming it's very close to most pro coaches systems as well. https://www.profootb.../about/grading/ **Sidenote... Monday morning was always dreadful waiting for those grades to be posted in the locker room. You never knew when a coach was going to think you stepped six inches to wide to the left, didn't get your pads low enough, shoelace was undone (OK, maybe not the last one). You'd be like "Coach, I shed two blockers, made a TFL, forced a fumble, which I recovered, scored a TD, and won the game... and I went to every class this week" He'd be like... you forgot to shave before the game... -1!

I don't know how you could say Kyle Williams is the only "elite" player on the team when you have Mario Williams on that line also, but Kyle is a hell of a football player. Great pass rush, and it's not because he has incredible speed or agility. He has incredible tenacity, a high motor, and great football instinct. He has solid footwork, and always maintains his gap in a gap control defense. I find it comical when fans with little to no knowledge of defensive schemes and philosophy attempt to point to overall stats against the run for the entire Bills defense and say, "Derrrrr, see look, he's right in the middle so it must be his fault". You know nothing, John Snow. Every player on the defense is responsible for exactly one gap. Kyle almost always controls his, does not get pushed off the ball, has a great pop and excellent leverage at all times, usually takes on 2 blockers if he doesn't make the play, which for a defensive grade is equivalent to making the tackle (because it frees another defender to make the play). Really excited to see a hoss like Brandon Spikes back there who should be very comfortable making the stops in the middle with a guy like Kyle eating up those blockers who are trying to climb to the next level. Haven't had true beefcake runstopping linebackers since Fletch and T. Spikes were back there, and that's been the real problem with our run D. Please refer to what are known in world of football (actual football, players/coaches, not fans) as grades. You will see that Kyle Williams is not just the highest graded player on the entire Bills team most games, but one of the highest graded d linemen in the entire league. Players are graded every single play for whether they controlled their gap and completed their responsibility in the 11 man defensive scheme. Do your job, and you get neither a + or a -. Do something that contributes to making the play directly and you get a +, screw up and you get a -. That's a simplified version, but basically that's how it works, and Kyle is one of the most technically sound players we have and also is a playmaker. A rare thing indeed to be both. And he wears my number from college, so obviously I'm a bit of a fan!