klos63
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I don't dislike Whaley, simon, and nor do i dislike rex. I just find it hard to believe that rex isn't behind this one because alonso is an odd fit for his d. I have faith in rex as a defensive coach, but it is the case that alonso is a very good player (plus i really like kelly). Whaley did draft Alonso (in tandem with Nix), and he got a ton of praise for it. And rightly so. It's human nature to not want to give up on a player who you picked and who is that good that early.
There is certainly an upside for the Bills because McCoy is good, but on balance i think the Eagles got the better of the trade (on paper at least). I think Alonso is a unique player who can do a lot of things that most lbs can't, but mccoy is a quality player too. If the bills had a chance to go to the sb in the next couple of years, it's a good trade, but they don't because of the qb situation. The mccoy trade reminds me of the dickerson trade - really good rb goes to a bad team and excels, and the team goes 9-6 and 9-7 before falling off the cliff again because the qbs suck. Or AP getting the vikes to the playoffs by the skin of their teeth a couple of years ago followed by the team tanking because they don't have a qb.
I do think mccoy is good, and i expect him to do well for a year or two. So it's not like i see it as all bad! The qb situation remains the same, however. This is all secondary to that issue.
what can he do that most linebackers can't do? What is unique about him? That he can't handle blockers?
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not necessary - he didn't do the job , that's the main issue.
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there we go,
He was manhandled. i addressed that. He is too small to play the MLB. But the Bills wanted him on the field and what else did we have then?
and the run defense was bad anyways.
A rookie was left on the field for what? 100% percent of the snaps? and he did get DROY votes for reason
results weren't there. That's what matters.
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Yet many who are for the trade are against paying Jerry Hughes less.
I try not to think too much about the money. I don't care what they spend as long as the field a strong team. Not my money.
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Let me ask this> did you ever notice how quickly Alonso moved to the play? almost before the snap. Very instinctive Kid. He was never going to shed/stack guards or centers. he would be best with running room. which is why they played him a step deeper from scrimmage
did you notice how often he was out of position, how often he was manhandled by blockers, how he had all his sacks, INT's , FF in the first 4 games and nothing after that. How our run defense was awful until someone replaced him.....
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For those talking cap hit, do you REALY TRULY believe our front office didn't consider that? Honestly, with the ability to restructure, salary cap hits are almost moot.
Come on, you're making sense. Can't do that here.
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@YardsPerPass: A couple people asked why Kiko is bad fit w/ Rex... Kiko best as run and chase guy and not having to take on blocks. 4-3 WLB
What linebacker wouldn't be great if they didn't have to take on blocks? Why do people think outside linebackers don't get blocked.?
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Not a full year anymore. Christ, scott chandler was fully healthy 7+ months after tearing his. By all accounts, alonso's tear was clean. I'd be much more concerned about cartilage damage than an acl these days.
Yeah, and Chandler wasn't very mobile the year he came back, took a full year to get better(still not very mobile)
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Not really - acls are basically arthroscopic surgery these days.
except that they are not. ACL's need a full year to recover. some scope procedures have the players back in a couple weeks.
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is anyone that is concerned about the mileage on McCoy equally concerned about the 2 knee surgeries on Kiko?
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The team that wins the trade is the team that got the better player. McCoy by a mile.
We trade for a premier player and gave up someone that didn't even play last year.
Our defense was tremendous after he got hurt and replaced.
McCoy is a difference maker.
Great trade.
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If their contracts were the same then it could have been a pretty good deal but you're taking an 11million dollar cap hit in this deal so it's not Kiko for McCoy it's Kiko and a top flight FA for McCoy.
if the Bills aren't concerned about the cap hit, why should you or any other fan be.
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Why???????
This doesn't make sense.
RBs are a dime a dozen
Buffalo has depth at RB
His cap hit is high....
This would make more sense if the goal was getting an OL player who could help.
how do you know they don't plan on getting on OL player to help. My guess is that's the obvious next step
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Everyone with their man crushes on Kiko need to find someone else.
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FALSE.
Top 3 RB'S are NOT a dime a dozen. This has been repeated in this thread. And it's wrong.
Exactly, if they are a dime a dozen, where were ours?
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The biggest change in our defense this past year personnel wise was Spikes for Kiko - our defense was significantly better this past year. Kiko was moving to a new position because he wasn't good enough to play in the middle. Fans love him, but he is overrated. He may turn out to be very good, but McCoy is special. Love the trade
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Not sure how I feel but I think Kiko has been one of the most overrated players here so far.
agreed
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Yeah. But does Bill know the lyrics to Aqualung?
Polian was probably in his 20's when Aqualung came out. Probably got high to it before any of us ever did.
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I am alarmed at Polian's opinion. Shaun Hill is one of the worst QBs I have ever seen in the NFL.
I wonder who's opinion has more credibility?
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If Rex actually does what he says he will do in building a power run offense, and a top defense then the Bills won't need a flashy gunslinger type QB! All they need is a guy who can manage the game, and move the chains when needed.
The foolish Browns gave up on 7-6 Hoyer, and signed a 1-10* bum in McClown. Cleveland after they played Buffalo last year lost the next four games to finish the year 7-9. Did i mention that those last four games were all against playoff teams in Indy, Cincy, Carolina, and Baltimore. This with Hoyer playing hurt after that Bills game. The last two years Brian Hoyer has gone 10-6 with Cleveland, and that is the best QB performance that team has seen the last 15 years.
Hoyer managed to play well without his best receivers most of the year as Josh Gordon only played in 5 games, and Jordan Cameron played in 9. Then neither one contributed very much last year. I think Hoyer is the best stop gap FA QB on the market, and it remains to be seen if he can develop further in a good offense with good coaching. That is provided the Bills actually do build a decent O line this season, as no QB will play well running for his life.
Therein lies the problem. We don't have a QB that we have confidence in to 'move the chains'. You make it sound so simple - just get first downs when we need them.
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Has to be a FA, can't see them trading a draft pick for any of these guys. Sanchez wouldn't be a bad option the more I think about it.
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To what end though? Why cut EJ? At worst, he's a solid backup, and his contract isn't anything to worry over from a salary cap perspective. I'm certainly not doubting Leroi (pbuh) but it doesn't make sense.
Actually, at worst he is a bad starter or bad backup that ruins whatever good might be happening with the rest of the team. Just wanted to clarify what 'worst' means.
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I just don't understand all the excitement for an oft injured QB? What has Bradford actually accomplished in the league? I, for one, want no part of Bradford. I'd have to have a defibrillator stationed near me every time he took a sack!
The excitement is that he is potentially available, and the fact is much good is still expected of him around the league. Jeff Fisher seems to want him back, that's good enough for me. I think Fisher is an excellent coach, if he thinks Bradford is good enough to start for him, he's good enough to start for us.
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I like Clay but don't think he is a true TE which is what the Bills need. He is also injured a lot which concerns me as well.
So do you think the Bills don't understand what their needs are regarding the TE position?
Bills to trade Kiko Alonso for LeSean McCoy
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and one of the worst run defenses in the league. It's where you make the tackles, not how many. We didn't really miss him too much, did we? In fact, defense was dominant most of last year, piss poor against the run the year before.