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12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Nobody is ignoring it. Acting like this is going to be his baseline is foolish tho.
His true value is somewhere in the middle and paying someone after what likely will be a career best season isn't smart. You are doing exactly what most people do in the stock market...buy at the all time high and then sell when it loses value.
If they could get a deal done for $10-11 million, I'm all for paying him. $15 million? No.
He wants to be paid as if he will have that season every year and the Bills want to pay him as if that's likely an outlier season but they still value him as a very good but not elite player.
And that's smart business for the Bills. And Cook is right to try and use his last season as leverage to get overpaid, but the Bills simply aren't dumb enough to do it.
So the 10-11 million you're OK with paying, isn't that paying a premium based on last season, certainly it can't be for his first 2 seasons.
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3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Nobody is ignoring it. Acting like this is going to be his baseline is foolish tho.
His true value is somewhere in the middle and paying someone after what likely will be a career best season isn't smart. You are doing exactly what most people do in the stock market...buy at the all time high and then sell when it loses value.
If they could get a deal done for $10-11 million, I'm all for paying him. $15 million? No.
He wants to be paid as if he will have that season every year and the Bills want to pay him as if that's likely an outlier season but they still value him as a very good but not elite player.
Who does that? Hahaha.
Most people do that? Really?
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42 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Nobody wants him gone. Most people don't want to pay him a contract he doesn't deserve based on his body of work either tho.
Ignore the dramatic improvement in his game and 18 tds, but determine his worth by his previous 2 seasons. Makes no sense whatsoever.
I still think it's fans who are easily butthurt and are so offended that he tweeted a few times about the money.
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25 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:
I don’t think anyone wants him gone. Speaking only for myself, I hope we extend him without disrupting the Bills salary cap structure. The conversation is about “at what cost?”.
That's almost always the question.
We can structure a contract with heavier cap hits late in the term. I happens all the time, but it's interesting that when it comes to Cook, i don't hear anyone brining I that approach to the contract.
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5 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Don't dismiss it, but also don't dismiss the combined 4 rushing TD's he had the two years prior. I would expect a serious regression to the mean. Much more likely to have 6-8 TDs this year than 16(18 counting receiving TDs as well) again.
Would expect last year's output to likely be an outlier over his career and likely his career high point, and you never pay someone based on an outlier year---well, I mean poorly run teams do it a lot, but it's not something you want to see the Bills do.
Bills paying him based on a career best year is not a wise financial decision.
With that logic we really have no RB's on the roster worth much of a contract.
Can't expect much more than 3 rushing TDs from Davis or 1 from Ty.
Yeah, not many players put up neck to back 18td seasons, but this is no ordinary offense, we were the highest scoring team in the league. This is becoming a run first offense and Cook excels in that. We sign him to an extension, might even lower this years cap number.
Honestly, never seen a high drafted player coming off such a tremendous season with so many wanting him gone.
This is what the Sabres do, not the Bills.
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11 hours ago, Another Fan said:
Or I’ll just say for the sake of argument average quarterback play.
I’d say only 8 or 9.
Point being I think too much is still put on his shoulders to carry the team.
That's what we pay him for. I dont think too much is on his shoulders, it's just the right amount for a superstar QB, but we also spent high picks on Cook, Coleman, Torrence, Brown... to help.
He's got big shoulders, nothing to worry about.
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On 5/6/2025 at 7:32 PM, Victory Formation said:
Nobody likes the guy. He’s entitled and has a poisonous personality. He’s never been told no before in his life. He should be grateful that he was drafted at all.
You're ragging on Sanders because some John Doe is filing a lawsuit?
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1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said:
The personnel is a MVP QB, a top 5 offensive line, and an excellent OC…. which is exactly what Aaron Jones benefited in his 16 TD season. The part of Beane’s job that is difficult is deciding if it’s worth paying Cook if that means losing McGovern, Torrence, etc in the next few years. The way the league has turned it honestly seems to be easier to find a “starting caliber” rb than an above average lineman now, especially on a cost controlled rookie deal. Cook is a heck of a weapon, but the math might not math with Allen making $55 mil now.
It definitely takes a full team to succeed, josh had a season with minimal sacks and INTS, in part because of the success of Cook. We were more of a ball control team last season, much more balanced but still dangerous.
I'm not worried about the cap. We extended key players with good contracts, the cap always goes up significantly, contracts fall off every year, Daquan Jones, regretfully Milano, AJ, Bosa, all go away next season. We drafted a lot of defense this year to replace veterans with rookie contracts.
We can afford Cook if they want to.
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10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Yes, he had 16 TDs. That's one year.
Over the last three years, he's managed 2, then 2, and then 16.
What's next year most likely to look like? Seven? Eight, maybe? Nine? That's my guess. Maybe it'll be 16 again, but he still has a lot to prove before that seems very likely.
Right now it looks like some kind of statistical anomaly. Not that that means Cook isn't good. He is. But for RBs, a high TD count has an awful lot to do with how many chances he gets and how good the OL is, of course. His long breakaways (and he has a few) are a different situation. His speed made a lot of difference on several of those plays, but overall you just see well-blocked, well-executed plays which did not require a sensational effort by the back.
Doubt it?
Here's a video of all his TDs last season.
Do you look at this and say, "Wow, what a back!! Almost none of those get scored by another runner?" I don't. I see speed killing on three or so of those plays. And that beautiful five or six yard run up the gut where a guy hits him head on and his contact balance allows him to get right off it and score. Other than that, though, I see a lot of effective plays by a fine football team.
Sorry, i can't easily dismiss 16 TDs like others can.
You may legitimately have concerns about his value, that's fair, but honestly, i think from most fans the reason for much of the criticism is because he posted on twitter a few months ago and no fan base gets more offended than the Bills.
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56 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:
Guys who hit those high levels of TD production on lower snap numbers rarely duplicate it unless they’re power backs. Aaron Jones is probably the best recent example of that. Cook is a very valuable player in this offense as he’s one of the few weapons that can play above the scheme at times, but I wouldn’t expect that TD production to be his new normal.
True, but very few even get to 16 in the first place. We have a tremendous offense, he's a key part, we agree on that.
I think he has the talent and the personnel around him to put up superstar numbers.
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3 hours ago, MJS said:
Couldn't disagree more. Cook isn't worth $15 million a season, so you don't pay him that. Period. He is a running back who doesn't even play 70% of snaps. Move on and find his replacement. The offense won't skip a beat.
How many GMs have this mentality of yours? Basically none. They have to consider their market value and weigh it against the opportunity cost. That's how it works.
How many RBs that did have 70% of the snaps get 16 TD'S. So many dismiss that, it's a big deal.
Re-watch some games from last season, if you do it's impossible to not see his impact and his value to the team.
Then watch how he performed in the playoffs, the guy is a stud, that's why Beane used a very valuable 2nd round pick on him.
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12 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
I said that if Cook wants to get paid early (meaning before the expiration of his current contract), then he needs to give the Bills some kind of incentive to do so.
The cap on his open-market value right now is between $12-13 million per season, at the absolute maximum. That is when Cook is an unrestricted free agent, and there are bottom-feeder teams with $80 million in cap space bidding for his services. Considering that he's not even a 3-down player, I'm not completely sure he could even fetch that amount.
Why would the Bills tear-up his rookie contract - where he's set to receive about $5.7 million, and then extend him for almost three times that amount... when they aren't even competing with another team? Because he's threatening to sit-out the offseason? The only reason Brandon Beane should even consider an extension at this point of the year, is if Cook is willing to give them a hometown discount to stay here.
They're not going to tear up his contract, they'll extend it(if they reach agreement) and structure so his cap hit is minimal this year and next... and maybe a 3rd year. I don't get that nobody hear seems to discuss the actual structure of the deal. People just seem to assume that it would have to be 15mm a year cap hit, which it won't. If Beane wants to extend him, they will.
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As i recently bought my son, Solomon, his jersey, I'm expecting big things.
Although I'm more confident with the jersey that i bought for my son, Oliver.
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Mark Pike, probably the 2nd best special teams player in Bills history.
I just think he was a tremendous ST player and if not for Tasker, probably would have had a ton more publicity.
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31 minutes ago, wppete said:
Force him to play this year or fine him. Let him walk after the season and get most likely a 3rd round compensatory pick…. His career is mirroring his brothers.
How is it mirroring his brother's career?
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23 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:
He will be worth it once he stops dropping passesHe's very dangerous as a receiver. He's not dropping a lot of passes.
I've been watching highlights from last season. Cook is dynamic, one of the best backs on the league. I really want to see him signed to an extension.
He's worth big money.
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26 minutes ago, dorquemada said:
Because it's hilarious? I don't expect you would understand, but it's possible to enjoy more than one thing
It happens every year, to every commissioner. It's hardly funny.
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27 minutes ago, dorquemada said:
So, i'll play the contrarian here and say I'm glad that he still has the job. One of my very favorite sports moments every year is seeing him get booed at the draft
Can I ask why? There seems to me so much to enjoy about sports. It's not like booing the commish is a new thing. No matter who it is they get booed.
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3 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:
Not worth stressing at this point since the media has been silent about it... once the media starts to howl, it'll still take a while to be concerned; as their job is to get ppl riled up and angry. create a story outta nowhere. if there isnt even a media frenzy around it, I can reassure you there really is NO STORY to be had lol
If their job is to get people riled up and angry, they would probably be doing that today.
Maybe that's not their job?
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7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
I can see us signing him for cheap during the summer with the expectation he may not get much playing time and just to help mentor the younger players
They won't take up a roster spot for a mentor.
We have coaches to teach and we have veteran players to help.
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What's the alternative? He's had playoff success, they could do much worse.
We need to count our blessings.
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4 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Massive mistake IMO. I give it 2-3 years before they're looking for a way out.
Purdy is the definition of QB purgatory. Just good enough to be fearful of letting him go, but not good enough to win it all. He was the QB of a team of superstars in their prime with elite offensive coaching and his play in the Super Bowl directly cost that team their chance at glory. And with his new salary they'll never be able to build that caliber of team around him again.
I think Kyle Shanahan could someday go the Andy Reid route of getting fired after 10+ years of disappointing playoff exits, going to a new team where he finds his elite QB, then start racking up championships.
Guarantee money equals 3 years salary, so you're probably correct. That'll give them time to draft a qb.
This just shows the value of any qb that can reasonably be relied on.
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Byes always help, but to what extent depends on that particular week.
What's the injury situation, travel, have a Thursday night game next...
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30 minutes ago, NewEra said:
🙄 or maybe he has no intention of paying him anything because paying top dollar to RBs isn’t in his DNAThat may be the case, if it is, I'm not happy with spending a 2nd round pick on a player that you only expect to have around for 4 seasons. Not good value.
The gift of a counterfeit jersey
in The Stadium Wall
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I bought a couple for my kids this post season, china , i think. They're great quality. $40 each. Not official nfl , but darn close.