klos63
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The point is you need to have a better plan than a belief (or a prayer) that someone may improve. Where is the plan B,C,D? A player may improve, or he may get worse or backslide. Henderson is what he is, an acceptable backup. He has had years to prove otherwise and the statistics show exactly what he is. As you say, taking someone even in the 1st round is nothing more than a gamble. Not taking anyone in the draft at all is throwing your money on the table and folding before the cards are even dealt. You are guaranteed to lose
I would say the 'belief' a player will improved isn't just a prayer, it's based on research and watching a player practice and play in games and understanding what his weaknesses are. Based on what they see and their combined decades of coaching and evaluation experience they determine that a player should improve after his rookie season enough to warrant not using another high draft choice on the same position the next season. I'm sure they have a plan B or C or D, (backups, FA's, trades...), but obviously those choices aren't as good as Plan A. I think you either don't understand how teams plan their roster or just look to criticize. It's not bad to not understand, none of us really do, but most , I think , have a better understanding than you do.
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By any metric the right side of the Bill’s Offensive line was almost a tire fire last year.
In spite of the excellent running and passing talent last year, there was a big black hole on the right side.
An excellent RB tandem. Watkins, McCoy & Clay. TT’s natural ability to take of and run helped pad the stats and masked the weaknesses of the OL. Incognito played way out of his skull last year. Glen was his steady solid self again. The Bill’s pray that Incognito will still play insanely on fire and Glenn will stay solid & steady.
Yet this off-season Bills management has done nothing significant via FA or the draft to address the right side of the OL. The RT situation is still a mess. The RG situation was bad last year, and the team’s plan A, B & C is praying that Miller will have a 2nd year where the light finally turns on for him. Unfortunately this plan is backed up by little more than faith and hope.
The team has Watkins at WR, with Woods as an average slot. Beyond that are a bunch of warm bodies at WR & ST players being counted in the offense. They lost a passable WR in Hogan & didn’t replace him with comparable talent. Harvin retired without comparable replacement. Talent wise the team has less talent than last year.
The Bills plan to improve offensive performance, praying TT will make a major improvement this year. Wow, I’m impressed with all this team has done to improve the offense this year. The “power of prayer”, the plan A,B.C, D and F for the Bills to get better on offense in 2016.
* Remember the stats are padded by TT's running ability & the guard stats are padded by Incognito having a stellar year at guard.
I apologize, I created some really nice tables from stats from Football Outsiders to back all this up,and inserted them here but TBD does not appear to support uploading images or tables. And preview mode showed them fine before actual posting. And it is not obvious if the my media function is even enabled for the board.
Quote from PFF
“… it’s really a tale of two sides. On the left, their pairing is as good as any in the league, and on the right, it’s as bad as any.”
Just because you don't understand the thinking at OBD doesn't mean it's a bad plan. They drafted Miller in the 3rd round last year, teams don't generally give up on draft picks after 1 season, not all draft picks are solid players in their rookie years. Henderson will be in his 3rd year, last year was riddled with a serious illness, this is a big year for him, but you need to give players time. We have picked up a few FA linemen, Mills and Velasco, and probably some more yesterday as UFA. If the expectation that a linemen must succeed as a rookie or he's a bust, you will draft linemen every year and lose opportunities to upgrade in other areas.
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The other common denominator is that they all have red flags and are boom or bust types. Not one of them is a sure thing, but each one can be a star if everything goes right and they stay healthy.
no middle ground. Solid starter maybe? When people use cliches it usually doesn't fit.
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Wrong. I am quite happy with Lawson. I have been a Whaley supporter. He deserves the benefit of the doubt but the last three picks don't help this year.
They need a WR, a SS, and an OT. Not another RB.
You have no idea. You're just guessing but really have no clue what will happen this year. 2 players picked late last year made the team, and one, Karlos Williams was very good. The year before Seantrel Henderson started at RT as a 7th rounder.
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You talking about EJ?
I'm talking about every QB they look at. It's absurd to think they don't do a large scale evaluation of each QB prospect, but unless this is a franchise QB right out of the gate, physical ability is a huge factor, this is football ya know, a game dominated by extraordinarily athletic people.
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It seems when the Bills evaluate QB's they look at physical size and pretty much nothing else.
not arm strength, running ability, deep ball ability, potential development, leadership qualities, coachability, character.... you can't be serious.
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Thanks captain obvious. I was just mentioning that it was an interesting difference in opinion. I was not saying "oh my God look Doug Whaley is crap even Mel Kiper disagrees with him!"
It was just an observation.
You said it was interesting , I just commented that it wasn't because the 2 subjects are not in the same field and their opinions shouldn't be compared.
So, does that narrative go something like this? There once was a choir boy. He ate his peas and carrots and helped little old ladies across the street. One day he got out of bed, and (perhaps, see up thread) bought a gun even though his priest/coach told him not to. He was tired of nursing injured baby animals back to health, so he accidentally headed down to the red light district and asked some woman on a corner to give him a blowjob. It'd only take a minute. There was plenty of time before choir practice.
I don't know what this guy does in his free time. I suspect very few people do know. And, yeah, it could've been a one-time thing, or it could've been he got caught for the first time. I have no idea.
Hopefully he gets his act together and becomes an All-Pro for the Bills. And sacks Tom Brady a lot.
I don't understand why this is such a big issue. He wanted to pay for a BJ. Big deal. When he is an NFL player , buffalo girls will give him one for free.
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Interesting that Kiper has getting off double teams as a strength and Whaley mentioned it as something they think he needs to develop.
Not really, Kiper isn't a professional scout or GM, Whaley is.
I know nothing good or bad about this guy, but just based on measurables I don't get it. For DL he's short and small, where does he fit?
Same size at KW
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Rex is making a statement with this draft. Defense will be bigger and better than last season's.
it had better be.
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Thanks for the input without reading what was said between me and this guy. I told him this guy is only a 3rd down guy. He said how do I know. I said because we have kyle williams for 1st and 2nd down. Pretty obvious but thanks
what if the team is passing on first and 2nd down and lining up 5 receivers... does he still only play on third down? You know teams don't just run on 1st and 2nd, and only throw on 3rd down. What about 2 minute offense, does KW stay on the field every play?
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That's what I said. He will play 3rd downs if ever. He won't start. We need starters at safety and WR
you keep saying 'if ever' , i don't think it means what you think it means.
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You taking Kyle Williams or Marcel Dareus off the field for this guy? Its already been said of anything they might let Shaq play inside in the nickel. Based on that this was a complete waste of a pick besides depth
Williams and Dareus will play every down this season?? Is that the point you are trying to make?
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Yea because in case you didn't know we have Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams. Take my word for it, this guy ain't starting over those guys lol
We're not talking about starting, it's about rotating. And if Williams missing half the season again, he will play. lol????
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Yes we needed a safety and a WR and either would have seen substantial playing time if not start. This guy is only going to play on 3rd downs if ever
Which safety and WR would have seen substantial playing time?
If ever? You think he may never play at all? And we should take your opinion seriously?
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Robert Woods is a legitimate #2. We already have him.
exactly
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A potential number two WR that plays every down.
which one? if you going to criticize a pick, you need to do better than that
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Per court documents Bills DT Adolphus Washington was arrested at a Columbus hotel when he agreed to pay an undercover cop $100 for oral sex.
sounds about like the going rate? He can afford more now.
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There's a whole thread with best players available per position: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/186238-updated-for-3rd-round-bpa-at-need-positions/
We could have had a WR or S or worst case a RT or a better NT
and any of those would be a starter this season?
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This was a bit of a letdown. I like Adolphus, but he's situational, and light for the D their running. Felt their was Off playmakers available
Which offensive playmaker wouldn't also be 'situational'?
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You don't go for depth in the 3rd. There were a lot of players left on the board. I don't get it
What starter would we pick here? What starting positions are still open?
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Oh boy. This feels like a Rex move -- so obsessed with stopping the run.
Not too thrilled about this, but on the bright side our current ILB's are so terrible it's almost guaranteed he starts.
yeah, stopping the run is so overrated. Let's go back to giving up 200 yards a game. That worked so well.
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Yes. He's done it for us before, and he can play just about any position along the DL. We're talking DE in the 34 base, not DE in a Wide-9.
Great (and old) article, here: http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/1/11/1927873/examining-multiple-defensive-fronts-featuring-kyle-williams
It still applies, and seems to apply every year, because every year we switch schemes and people doubt Kyle's ability to play X position. And then every year he comes in and put in a pro bowl performance.
Trust in the Meatball!
Well, that isnt this year, so we can worry about it when the time comes. There will be another FA and draft to go through. And Kyle may even stick around for a couple more years. Interior DLs can play well into their 30s (Ted, Pat, Sam, etc)
Not trying to start anything , but you have us picking Reed to help KW as a DE, now you state he can play for a few more years as an interior DL. Need to make up your mind.
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Yes, and for exactly the reason you pointed out, which is why I have come around on Reed. We need someone to hold down the Nose, take on 2 blockers in the middle and eat up space, so Kyle and Dareus can get upfield as DEs, and our LBs can make plays behind them.
We'd have Hughes, Dareus, Reed, and Kyle on our DL. Im for it.
He can do all that?
Kyle Williams is now a DE? Has he ever played that position before?
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Or the fact that Buffalo's NFL franchise has sucked for pretty much three quarters of its existence.
i'm pretty sure it does take that into account, that's why we rank pretty low.
Bills Plan to improve the offense “The power of prayer"
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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my post was deleted, i considered that a reprimand. You said the posters you disagreed with were either stupid or dicks, I said someone was clueless. Your comments are acceptable, but mine is not?