Kirby Jackson

Not sure where to put this but here’s the most “bust-proof” guy in the draft (comments are pretty funny):

That’s the point. A school doesn’t determine if a guy will be good or bad. It’s a player and their traits. Jamarcus Russell played at LSU. He was the 1st pick and a massive bust. Ben played at Miami of Ohio and is going to the HOF. That doesn’t mean that Burrow will be terrible and the next QB from Miami will go to the HOF. What AJ McCarron has done as a pro has nothing to do with Tua.

I trust DBs from LSU and OSU the most. They really, really develop them. Fulton will be a good player as will Delpit (despite him sliding).

FWIW, teams are ready for the 2021 draft now. They’ve scouted everyone and have books on the players. Obviously things change but they 100% know the strengths, weaknesses and depth of the draft the following year. They haven’t finished their work but have a pretty good sense of what it will look like. BLESTO and National meetings are right after this draft I think

@Blokestradamus there was a punter that did 25 reps on the bench at the combine

I have no idea where he’s been. I didn’t read too much on it. 2015 to 2020 was just shocking to me. That’s crazy

I’ll bring you up to speed on everything that you’ve missed. There is a lot of talent in the SEC (specifically Alabama and LSU). There are a couple of guys from Iowa that are going to go in the 1st (as there always seems to be lately). The 3 best players in the draft play at or played at Ohio State. There are lots of wide receivers, good tackles and running backs. The draft is thin at IOL and edge. Probably looking at 4-5 first round QBs. Burrow has the fewest question marks which is why he’s going 1. There, that should get you caught up...

Sounds like teams are pretty split on them at this point. It’s going to be interesting IMO to see who goes first. I don’t like it. I don’t like it one bit.

@Blokestradamus where have you been?!? We need you this time of year

Fair enough and he was obviously in consideration. I was SO tempted to say Love but if he ends up as Mahomes I’ll never hear the end of it. I chickened our and picked a guy that will keep me more anonymous. Do you trust Miami of Ohio QBs in the NFL?

Herbert, Love, Chaisson, Becton I actually found this pretty easy. Biggest bust potential to me is always a high ceiling, low floor prospect. These guys all check those boxes IMO. If I have to pick one I’ll pick Chaisson.

I tend to agree here Gunner without soundly like too much of a homer. Okudah and Young to me are the 2 guys in this draft that are “idiot proof.” They get off the bus as high level NFL players with a chance to be elite. There’s pretty much no chance that either is worse than really good IMO (and I’ve seen every snap that they’ve played). When you add in the fact that they play premium positions it’s hard to imagine falling outside of the top 5.

I think the story is something like that. They were super close and were just on this bender for a while. My memory is a little fuzzy on it but remember it being messy.

With the 7th pick the Carolina Panthers select Jeffrey Okudah, cornerback, THE Ohio State University. The Panthers have Okudah as the 3rd best player in this draft. He’s a long, athletic, rangy corner with All-Pro potential. After losing James Bradberry we have a need at the position. We didn’t expect him to be there but are thrilled that he was. We view him as a cornerstone to our rebuild moving forward. @Logic and the Arizona Cardinals are now on the clock

Oh wow!! That changes everything!! This draft is drunk.

Ruggs feels like a mover in this draft. I wouldn’t be shocked (at all) if he were the 1st WR off the board. It just doesn’t feel like the Giants will be that team.

Giants? I think Wirfs and Simmons are the names that we see the most

We really should just give him the highest ranked caucasian skill player and move on.

I’m fairly positive it wasn’t just weed (and I always defend the just weed guys). Gordon was/is an addict. He and Manziel were heading down a dangerous path but were much more dangerous to themselves. Smith has like a handful of DUIs and a domestic. He endangers others as well. That was my point.

Remember the thread where Shenault and Higgins were grouped with the top 3. It was something to the tune of “these 5 are universally regarded as the top 5.” Yeah, no!! It was ALWAYS 3 guys and then a lot of others. The Bills clearly wanted one of the 3 based on Beane’s interview today. He just thought that the price was too high especially with Diggs available. A home run for Beane. I disagree (and I like Brown). I think Okudah is the better player and I think that the drop off from Okudah to CB2 is greater than Brown to Kinlaw.

@Sherlock Holmes is on the phone trying to trade for Kupp or McCaffrey. His reasoning, “because you can’t have enough white skill players.”

ugh, so not a process guy ?

Greatest whiner is debatable. There have a bunch (including Brady). It’s tough to argue anyone else as the greatest ever though. He’s won 6 Super Bowls and played in 3 others. I hate the guy but he’s clearly in a class by himself.

He wasn’t out of the league for 5 years at the time.

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.