Big Gun

But why? How does someone even have these bizarre thoughts? Then not only have these thoughts but actually talk yourself into thinking they are good ideas! OMG!

Too bad for EJ the QB position is 90% mental and 10% skill set. Orton crushes EJ above the shoulders.

Mitch has dumbo sized ears.

Yeah another thread saying blow it all up and start over, again! Done that how many times in the past 15 years and where has that gotten them? Everyone wants to give EJ the benefit of the doubt and give him time to develop, why can't the same be said for Marrone? Why can't Marrone be afforded time to work out his kinks and become better? He has to learn on the job as he can't go to the bench and watch and learn from someone else. Regardless of what you all think I think Marrone and Whaley have made this a better more competitive football team than they have been in a long long time. IMO the ship has a captain and is headed in the right direction but is not going to get there overnight.

yep

This is the smartest post I have seen in a long time around here. I absolutely agree, Spiller is done as a Buffalo Bill IMO.

Rookie???.... oh you have no idea.

Yes Orton is, you are absolutely correct, he is light years better than EJ Manuel as many here thought. Thanks for pointing that out.

Haha, dude you are just too funny! It's so bad I can't take your posts seriously anymore.

Yep! +1 Pretty obvious the football IQ lacking argumentative vocal ones don't understand that.

...or hold onto the effing ball!

You mean Orton would have led them to 23 points today if Bryce Brown doesn't fumble and they would have kicked a FG to ice the game at the end and would have won 23-17.

Man, is there nothing this guy won't do! He's bad news!

Right, because when the season starts everyone plays a vanilla defense! Oy, where does this stuff come from!

IMO you couldn't be more wrong about Orton. 1100+ Yards, 9 TDs, 3 Ints, 104 QBR, 67% Comp, 8 Yards per attempt all after only 4 games and being with the team for what, 3 months, maybe. You want to chop him down and say he is inconsistent, and not playing at a high level. 3-1 and his stats say otherwise, what kind of stats would you like to see if this isn't good enough for you? Is anything good enough for you? How about giving the opponents defenses some credit for being good. From what I could find at the time the Bills played them, the other teams pass defenses were ranked, Mia-14, SD-13, Hou-14, Det-5, NE-3, Minn-9, NYJ-14, and KC-1 against the pass. All top half of the league, what do you expect from the QB each week? 50 points, 400 yards, 4 TDs, 130 QBR, 80% Comp, 12 Yards per attempt? C'mon man! I think you just like to argue!

Thanks man! You better help me up since we give all you zebras a "NICE" Christmas gift. Wink wink!

A sheet pizza and a case of Brador.

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No he doesn't, not even close to good mechanics. That's a major part of his problems.

yep and yep!

He could have done that by staying the backup in Dallas. He wanted to play, that's why he is in Buffalo. Unless the wheels absolutely fall off I think KO has found his "right fit". Highly doubt he is going anywhere.

What! You mad bro! You want some of me!

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^This^ He's a good guy just a bad QB. It is what it is, people wishing he was good doesn't actually make him good. We shall find out this off season.

Yeah, ok sure he does. Excellent chance his upside will be less than what Orton already is. I surely have NEVER seen any semblance that suggests EJ will ever be a competent NFL QB. I think we have seen enough, as have quite a few ex players and media and current coaches, of EJ and his many many fatal faults to answer your question now.