The Dean

I agree. Well, I'd say Chan was very good for about 90% of the plays. He didn't seem to be able to call redzone plays very well, though. and those are so important. But between the 20's the guy was magic. Also, at times I think he used to stop himself. Sometimes a play would just kill, over and over. And, out of the blue, they would just no longer run it, even though the defense hadn't stopped it yet. That kind of thing would always send me into a rage. I like Roman because I don't think he will be "figured out" like some before him (I'm looking at you, Gilbride). He can vary his offense to the talent, and I think, to the defense.

I'm not worried about the Bills making that move. Agreed. I see this as an example of an organization completely destroying any chance a talented QB had for developing.

Indeed, if it comes from the agent. But again, I'd be very hard on an agent that let that out, if I was the player.

Decision day is today, or tomorrow, maybe. And I'm one who can't understand how this information gets out to the public. It suggests a mole on the inside. If I was the guy in charge, I'd be very suspicious if inside information got to the press, and I'd do my best to scheme a way to find out who was the leak. Beat me to it, as usual, Yolo

For what it's worth, FF defensive rankings really don't reflect the overall quality of the D--at least not in the leagues I have been in. We only get points for scores and shutouts. I have been lobbying for years to get turnovers included. But even if they are included, just having a good strong D isn't enough to get many points in most leagues, in my experience.

I don't think they will go that route, but it wouldn't be foreign to Roman. Kaep saw the field for a few plays a game when Smith was their starting QB, I believe.

EJ's play hasn't been consistent this preseason? And if you aren't simply going by this preseason, what are you using to judge Tyrod's consistency? Did you hang around training camp every day and watch the QBs? It's clear to me, all the Bills' QBs have been consistent this preseason. Cassel has a pretty extensive record with a lot of inconstancy (which includes some pretty decent play). EJ has a much shorter record, also exhibiting some inconsistency (including some good play). TT doesn't really have any previous gameday record from which to draw conclusions. So, if you care to respond, what period of time are you using to judge consistency? Really? I really hope they can be bothered to make adjustments to accommodate talent. If not, this team is in serious trouble, IMO.

I respect you and your information. Metz. But I was a bit confused why so many continue to put so much belief in the "Roman wants Cassel, Rex wants TT" talk. I think that was true, generally, at some point in the past. But what I'm hearing is, a few weeks ago, both were far from set on who they preferred---and this was before the start of preseason. A lot has happened in the past few weeks and evaluations change. For what it's worth, I heard the Bills were more or less settled on their season #1 just before the Steeler game---and it wasn't Cassel. My source is pretty good, but not infallible so I have been careful about saying too much on this topic. Plus, until the decision is actually made, there is always a chance for re-evaluation. Like you this Wawrow tweet has me a bit confused. Wawrow is a rock-solid reporter and isn't in the business of passing along BS. So he's getting that info from somewhere. Of course, he could be getting bad info, or just intentional smoke. Last night or this morning (can't remember which) I was watching the NFL Network they had two guys (ex players I think) talking about the Bills QB situation. The question was asked: "Did EJ do anything to help himself tonight", or something to that effect. Both said, unequivocally, "No". Now I'm thinking, "Really". If he didn't help himself AT ALL, then there was basically nothing he could have done to help himself, and you have to wonder why they would even start him, and bring him back into the game. Now, had their answer been, "Yes, but not enough to pass TT (or Cassel) because they also played well" then at least I'd have understood the answer. But if EJ didn't help himself with that performance, then starting him was an exercise in futility, I think, for the Bills coaching staff. As for cutting Cassel, I have been strongly against the idea, and I'm still against it, though perhaps not as strongly as I was. As for cutting, or trading EJ (assuming TT gets the start), I am very strongly against that--unless they get remarkable value in a trade, which is very unlikely. The only reason I think you keep Cassel is to serve as a gameday #2, in case of injury. He probably can be (or should be) ready to play with less preparation during the week than either TT or EJ. And it probably isn't the worst thing to not have someone in the QB room with a lot of starting experience. Is that worth $4 million? I don't know the Bills financial numbers, but I'm guessing they can afford it and get the extension deals done. Or put another way, I don't think that $ will be the difference between getting the extension deals done.

But it's the only thing that court should be looking at, which is my point. There is a CBA in place and it gives Goodell this power. Pretty much end of story, unless they find there is something wrong with the CBA or that Goodell has somehow violated the spirit of the agreement (which is the fair and unbiased portion). But no detailed analysis is really needed. Broad strokes can tell you if this was, or wasn't, a case of the NFL being out to get Brady, and/or targeting him unfairly. And I also understand that more is being examined here, which is preposterous, IMO. And end run around the CBA and a judge basking in the glory. I can only hope when it's all said and done (if there is no settlement) the judge does the right thing and tells the NFLPA to pound sand.

Did you see the couple? I doubt there would be any issue with too little food.

It is. But that thread is a giant clusterfu#!. I have to agree a bit with the OP and NoSaint. Any judicial review in this case should be limited to: 1. Is the CBA legal (not unconstitutional or illegal in some other way)? 2. Does Goodell have the right to make the decision under the CBA? And maybe 3. Just some general assurance that the process was handled in a way consistent with spirit of the CBA I don't believe the court should be involved in the details of violation or the NFL's investigation, except to assure the accusation, and findings weren't completely fabricated and pulled out of thin air. Whole thing should take about an hour. But the judge wants them to settle it themselves and they like to get their names mentioned in national media. Maybe the NFLPA will assure they have an arbitration process next time.

Rivers is a very good QB. I'm not so sure he would have made it in Buffalo, though. With the weather/wind and the poor offensive line play when he came up, I honestly believe he would have been another "bust" had the Bills drafted him. Cutler on the other hand, has the arm strength. Unfortunately I don't think he has the mental fortitude to stick out what he would have had to deal with in Buffalo. That's not to say either wouldn't have been better than JP. I just think it's funny the post mentioned he wanted to punch JP without mentioning it was when JP was a cocky rookie (many here think cocky is a good attribute in a QB), and that he also wanted to punch other QBs seen as somewhat successful.

I also despise CBS's site. But I think this is a link to the actual Fletcher video: http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/videos/514726467729/0/quarterbacks-london-fletcher-wanted-to-punch I couldn't get it to play in Chrome but it played in Firefox. No explanation here, except as a rookie, JP was cocky. Also wanted to punch Rivers and Cutler, BTW. Two QBs coveted by many here.

Damn! And just when I was about to join! Brian Krebs has been all over this from the start. I linked a few of his posts early on, and thought I linked the post where he was targeting Thadeus Zu, but it looks as though I did not. Here it is: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/who-hacked-ashley-madison/ There remains some doubt to whether TZ is the actual hacker, but I think there is less doubt he knows who the hackers are. For people interested in this sort of thing, I recommend keeping a regular eye on Brian Kreb's blog.

Well, no. Because I don't fo to Dennys. I avoid chain restaurants whenever possible. Particularly when I'm in a place where I know the restaurants. But if you think Dennys has the best seafood on Transit road, who am I to argue. I live in Florida now. Then again, some people to to Red Lobster down here. I can't figure it out.

Are you sure you aren't thinking about Lee Evans? I liked Lee, too, but he was a guy who didn't break tackles. Josh was a very good YAC guy. Unfortunately the Bills didn't use him much on crossing patterns where he was a killer.

It's really none of my business as I can't make it that far north. But Dennys? For dinner? My cousin, Elaine, had the best line I ever heard when it comes to eating there. "Nobody goes to Dennys. Sometimes you just end up there." With all the places on Transit road, why would you pick Dennys? Again, I know it is none of my business.

I have to disagree with Josh Reed. He was underrated and under-appreciated by Bills' fans. Guy could catch a ball in traffic with his teeth. Truth is, he had a bad year or two, when he was forced into the #1 WR role and pressed a bit too hard. And, to be honest, I think he smoked entirely too much pot, based on how he sounded in interviews. But the man was fearless and blocked like a mofo. Maybe he wasn't suited to the #1 role and wilted under the pressure to do so. But he was hardly a bust.

People spend a lot of money building really ugly buildings.

I'd probably go with pot and whiskey, but I think we're on the same page.

The fallacious part was this "If the starter of PS game #3 is historically the starter of the season, wouldn't the staff put the QB they thought was going to be that guy in that slot for the game?" If you really didn't mean that, then we're all good. You could be right in your assumption the Bills will end up staring EJ, based on some historical evidence. But I think the sentence above makes no real sense.

Awesome!

I don't know what? Who will be the starting QB for the season? Well, I have been tipped by someone with inside knowledge, but no, I don't know for sure. What does that have to do with discussion? But thinking: In the past whoever started preseason game #3 typically starts during the season THEREFORE the Bills staff is using that historical trend to decide who starts preseason game #3 and/or the regular season, is preposterous reasoning. You really should take a logic class or two.

The fallacy is, because it is typically done in the past, it has to be in the plan this particular time. What has traditionally happened/what usually happens can be completely unrelated to what is happening this time. A bit of "post hoc ergo propter hoc". In the past, the QB that started the third preseason game had already been named the starter. It wasn't as if they became the starter because they started the third preseason game. Comprende? My guess is, in the past, the staff had already decided who was going to start at QB for the season. What you should really look at, if you were doing a comparison, is what happens in the third game when the coaching staff has made clear statements the starting QB is not yet known. Even in those cases, they wouldn't necessitate the same thinking as in this particular case. Decisions of this type stand alone---they just fall into a pattern. The pattern doesn't make the decision.