The Dean

Makes sense, given the situation. I see reporters citing this very thing, then saying (paraphrase) "We'll have a good idea who the starting QB will be on Sat. Traditionally the #1 QB gets the start on the third preseason game." Rex keeps telling them that isn't necessarily true, but they can't seem to shake the notion of whoever starts preseason game #3 is the season starter. I like Carucci, but I really can't understand why he thinks Rex is sending "mixed signals" or engaging in any kind of contradiction. Is the situation just a bit too complex for some sports writers to grasp? http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/08/25/mixed-signals-still-abound-in-quarterback-race/

Excellent. I couldn't stop laughing after Thurmanator's post. I get the feeling he just came from a management consultant or motivational speaker. I used to have so much fun screwing with those guys. "Empty slogans R us!"

I agree with your point about consensus. But the chain of command is never an issue here. Rex will be the person who makes the decision. officially. He is, of course, free to make a different decision than he actually prefers. Any leader who won't do that at least once in awhile is probably a crappy leader, IMO. In this case, it might be a good thing for Rex to be uncomfortable with his decision, as his decisions about the offense (and QB in particular) have been fairly regrettable in the past---that is, if the decisions in the past were his preference. I think this line of thinking is total BS. But most of all, the Bills have enough talent to do a long way THIS YEAR. This isn't a year you waste "building for the future". This is the future they've been building toward. To think an offense good enough to go deep into the playoffs is bad for the team is ridiculous. To think a "meh"* offense helps Roman get a HC job, is equally ridiculous. * not specifically referring to the player here. I'll make one final point in this thread. If Rex actually overrules Roman's choice of QB (something I don't think is going to happen), hasn't he done the same thing to Roman and the offense that many claim Idzik did to him? If, in this scenario, Roman doesn't get to play the QB he thinks will do the best job for the offense, do we make excuses for him the way some do for Rex's performance with the Jets?

Found guilty? Was Ben ever charged with a crime?

Because it is, for an uninjured player. You give good reasons why a player might accept it. But I'm pretty sure an uninjured player can file a grievance with the NFL if they are put on IR without being injured.

He refused pretty good money and got about what I might expect the Bills to offer, if they were to make one (probably more than the Bills might offer). Mathis probably made a good choice for what is left of his career.

I suppose that is one way to look at it.

Really? Since they already have "Wood" they don't need Levitre (levitra)---since that is for when you don't have/can't get wood.

Aye aye aye. That's the point. We're working of some very vague rumors here. The rumors could well be false and their actual positions different than what we know. This question is about who should make the call. The individual players involved aren't really relevant here. It isn't' as if the Bills have one clear starter or there would be no question. Take the player you like off the table. Who would you trust to pick the starting QB?

You make a good point.

It isn't a democracy---it isn't as if they have a vote and whoever wins starts. And of course it is, officially Rex's decision. But he'd be a fool, and show very bad faith, if his decision wasn't ultimately that recommended by the OC. What if Rex tells Roman, "I understand you want to start TT (or EJ), but we need to win a few games early to get some momentum this season. We can start to work TT into the lineup by making some packages for him. And, if TT is truly ready, he'll still be ready, and healthy, later in the year. After all, what are the chances Matt lasts the year?" Since you think Rex should have final say, you are fine with that, too. Right? You are simply bringing your preference for QB into a discussion about who should make the decision. It is intellectually dishonest.

Davis might be swiped off the PS as soon as he is put there. I lean toward Hogan here. He has produced. (I keep underestimating how athletic he actually is, as well as his size.) But his drops concern me.

No doubt, bandit. If it wasn't for his high salary, he'd most not be on the chopping block in Tennessee. If cut, maybe the Bills get him on the cheap---strictly as a backup.

We have two right near the start of their careers. Even better, they have had some time to lean on the bench. While I'm not all-in on either EJ or TT, I'm fairly bullish on the Bills QB situation right now.

There have been a number of driver issues, as should be expected. I put it on a rather underpowered Windows 7 laptop, just to screw around. I'm not crazy about some of the choices they made (the settings in Edge are absurd). But I think it will be fine. I would still hold off for a few months, unless your current OS is screwed up. Actually, for most people, upgrading is usually a mistake, IMO. If your computer runs well, why screw with it? You know the OS, the software runs---why mess around? Windows 7 is supported until 2020 and Windows 8 a couple years more. Make your next computer Windows 10. Of course, if you have a spare PC, sure, take a shot.

It's becoming clear this isn't about who should make the QB decision for the Bills. For you it's just "don't start Cassel". I think there are about 100 other threads for that. What if it is Rex who wants Cassel and Roman who wants to start TT? I thought this was about who, in the organization, should be empowered and trusted to make that call. I mean, hell, if Rex and Roman want to start Cassel, but Whaley or Pegula disagree, maybe they should make the call--right? I'm not particularly crazy about starting Cassel, either. I think he's an acceptable #2 and I'm glad the Bills have a guy like that (wish he was a bit better, though) on the team. But there are scenarios where perhaps starting Cassel early in the season make sense for the long-term. Maybe Roman likes TT but doesn't think he is quite ready, or can handle a whole playbook, just yet. Maybe he likes EJ and just needs to get more comfortable with him. Whatever. For the long-term health of this team, the coaching staff is more important than one player decision---even the QB. We have a proven OC in Roman now. I think it's crazy, at this point, to not give him the players he thinks he needs to best run the offense---even if I disagree with those decisions.

Of course. As thebandit clearly explained. It will be discussed by the entire group. I'm sure there will be agreement, and possibly some disagreements. Everyone will/should get to share their thoughts and concerns. I'd assume the offensive coaches, in particular, have a lot to add to the discussion--so I don't really think there will be too much of an issue when the final decision gets made. But I think even if Rex would slightly prefer QB X and Roman really wants QB Y, you go with QB Y. Think about it. They brought Roman in to help fix the offense, which has been the real problem for this team the past few years. Roman has a history of grooming QBs and designing effective offenses. Rex has never been able to fix an offense or develop a QB in his years as HC. Here's a crappy analogy: A general contractor has built a few houses and every one of them has horrible electric issues. This contractor has never had any electrical experience and some say he doesn't know a volt from a watt. So he hires a master electrician to build the next house. There is some discussion on what materials to use, and how to go about wiring the house. The electrician's plan is within budget, but the general contractor says, "No, use this stuff instead, and do it my way". Now he's the boss, and he can make the decision. But he'd be one stupid general contractor, and I wouldn't want him building my house. Great managers delegate and trust their people (especially if they got to pick the person), until they prove themselves inadequate for the job.

Yes you can. But if you overrule their decision, then you don't trust them---especially when it's in an area of their expertise and not yours.

Sounds like one of the names from Key and Peele's team.

I can understand why you might want one QB instead of another. I have my thoughts, too. But neither of us are the OC. Our thoughts on the matter aren't important. As a HC, if you don't trust your OC with the most basic, and important decision, right out of the gate, then you don't trust your OC. I think the Bills are in big trouble of the HC (especially this HC) doesn't trust the OC before one regular season game has been played. Apparently it doesn't bother him. So who really gives a damn?

Awesome! I'm dog and house sitting Saturday for a client/friend. The guy has a mac-daddy entertainment system. I should invite a few hundred people over... I better make sure he has stocked the bar for me.

Sure. As long as he isn't overpaid, he could help this team. I still would like them to take a run at Mathis. Who knows, maybe they have. But if he is going to play this year, it isn't likely to be for big money. This teams' OL depth scares the crap out of me.

Could be. Or maybe they already had their fantasy football draft and Satan picked Jordy. That'll teach him! Wow, stuff is getting weird with the Ashley Madison break. Some bounty talk: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/ashleymadison-500k-bounty-for-hackers/ And allegations Ashley Madison execs were hacking computers: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/leaked-ashleymadison-emails-suggest-execs-hacked-competitors/

I'm hearing it could be four fist round picks!

Consider the source. That's why. Because that means Rex isn't letting Roman run the offense to the best of his ability---with the players, and style, he believes will best succeed. Who do you want to trust with offensive decisions? Rex or Roman? I'm not suggesting Roman won't do his best with whomever he has to work with, and make an offense that goes with their skill set. But why tie the guy's hands? Rex has no clue about offensive football. Let the man you hired to do the job, do the job. At least to start the year. If it goes south, then make a change.