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Why? Do you think Losman could've been Aaron Rodgers?

wWhat bad QB's had bad pro days?

Probably at least 1. All of them. Zero.

The guy who hired him gave him some help.

The corollary to having two cheap guys like Lynch and Simiean is that they have some money to spend on a QB and have a decent window with the rest of that roster. Most of the other teams only have one or the other. SF is up there for me with TT. I think he ends up there, personally. Nice weather, starting job and definitely some cash.

Depends on the QB. Guys like Wilson and TT on his game tend to elevate bums because no corner can cover any WR of any talent level for 7 seconds.

Our defense played SF with Kaep, and LA with Keenum. A slow starting Cards team. And a Pats 3rd string QB with a dead hand. And got shredded by Fitz a couple weeks prior. The defense stunk all year, they just faced even worse offenses.

My bad. Important to keep in mind for fitting him on a Texans or Denver though. Yeah I'm stretching.

Tyrod Taylor is not going to get the Brock O treatment this FA period. He's just not. He'll get a deal a la Fitzpatrick, a short term bottom tier starter deal. Browns Kizer SF Trubisky Bills Cutler and Watson Jets Mahomes Denver TT Chicago Hoyer for a tank year Houston Brocketship

Compare how many plays Sherman was on Woods to how many Gilmore was on Brown.

No one is going to overpay for his services because they know he's not good enough. His potential is next to zero.

Easy to cover a guy when you only cover him for half of his plays.

Self preservation mode will be the opposite of making a risky high priced trade for a risky QB in the hopes of making the postseason. If it blows up, Dougie would be gone.

You take self loathing to a whole new level my man.

It only happens if Doug Whaley has the brains to look at it like that. I doubt he does. He'll probably trade away some 2018 picks to make a run with Hoyer at QB.

49ers.

More realistic than TT.

Ditch TT and trade for Romo. If he stays healthy, the Bills go 12-4 and make a postseason run. If he gets hurt, we go 4-12 and get a top 5 pick for the next great QB. Win - win.

Well that and his only evidence that Mike Williams is the Mike Evans to Watson's Johnny Football is the Nat'l Championship game. Watson had a WR who made 2 great catches? Basically makes him a bust, IMO.

Of course they aren't gonna come out and say Whaly screwed up. Wawrow was of the opinion that he gave him a phone interview minutes after Whaley's disaster due to the mess, and with a desire to clean it up. I happen to agree with the guy who conducted the interview.

You're right. That's why the Pegulas took the action to hold two separate interviews to clear up his mess.

Okay. I imagine Terry and Kim disagree.

They both are.

Don't forget even in eliminated teams like Collins (okay, pick 33 but very close) and Karl Joseph.

I agree, it was flawed. And it was not going to win a Superbowl. But that's irrelevant. It was good enough to back into the playoffs and maybe win a game there with a great defense. We had the #1 rushing attack in the NFL by a lot. There was enough salvageable there to not blow it up. Do I think TT was the long-term answer? No. However, if the Bills were gearing up for a 2017 playoff push, which they are (a mistake but an understandable one), the move is not to bandaid the defense which sucked and rip out the whole offense. You put the best team possible forward. They are going to make the fatal mistake of taking a day 3 QB, keeping TT and changing his system. And I don't think anyone can argue that TT is at his most effective throwing the ball 15 times, and helping McCoy and TD Mike find wide open lanes because he's a threat to run. This is nothing new with the Bills. They did it 2014. Our owners and GM fundamentally do not the importance of continuity when things are okay. They have proved it again and again. Personally, I don't think it much matters because the 2014 defense is dead and gone and this group won't play to that level in 2 years or so. But if they revert to 2014 form with draft adds and FA's, which I think Whaley is banking on, and your goal is to make the playoffs, you do not destroy an offense top 10 in points scored. And that's not just TT. You can ditch him, get a guy like Watson, Romo, Rivers, and still keep the O together. But ditching the OC and his system and the QB is a recipe for disaster. TL;DR You change schemes, coaches and key players drastically when units SUCK, not when they have numerous tangible positives.