FireChan

Pretty sure Bruce Smith, Andre Reed, and Thurma Thomas have already been asked if the Bills treated them like family.

I asked first.

He had Stafford though. He's not the best, but I'd take him for the next 5 years.

Not to get into semantics but.... That's when I disliked the guy. I can't make up my mind if I like the guy or not. Sorry man, not trying to single you out. You're definitely not the only one.

His was the only post when I replied.

I'm arguing that every NFL has NEVER shown consistent commitments to players or coaches. It doesn't happen. They cut or dump players left and right, no matter how loyal the players or coaches are. How many people would be complaining if Pegula fired Marrone on Monday? I assure you, it'd be less than how many are complaining now. The Bills (and every other NFL team) have never rewarded loyalty. Yet we expect coaches and players to take paycuts or never leave for more money or better organizations? It's ludicrous. Edit: In fact, I'll pose you another question. If Marrone didn't opt out, EJ won the QB competition but went on IR week one, and we went 7-9 in 2015, would Marrone be shown loyalty? "He caught a couple bad breaks but he stuck with us?" He'd be shown the door. In a heartbeat. I'd stake my bank account on it. Expecting loyalty in a cut throat business is how you end up getting played. Begrudge him for not being classy, but that's about all you can put on him.

I guess not, but 2013 was unacceptable as an HC. It'd be like going 4-12 with this roster.

That's when huh? Seems like you were all for him 5 days ago. Let's look a little deeper. Wow, 3 days ago, you didn't like him or dislike him. You couldn't make your mind up. Sounds a bit later that the camp incident. Wanna revise a little more history? Say you hated the hire from Day 1 and you knew he sucked. Go big!

They used to tell you enough. I remember 6-10 seasons that we were 3 plays away from being 9-7. It didn't matter because you are what your record says you are. But once you get to 9-7, wins are no longer enough, time to invalidate them.

Of course. Marrone wins a close game and it's luck. Belichick wins a close game and it's because he's a winner.

Moral losses. Classic.

Look at the talent on that roster KTD. 1 good year is not good enough, especially when they regressed.

No, it doesn't. But it casts a shadow when Nate Hackett could be a good OC on the Broncos.

Yes, they showed him such loyalty.

Hmm. Maybe you'll stop giving the FO the benefit of the doubt when they ship their best WR and "Buffalo guy" outta town. Oh wait. Loyalty begets loyalty. You don't get to defend teams for it "being a business," and not extend that courtesy to anyone else involved. The players are all hypocrites.

What?

It doesn't matter. They wrote it off like the last 4 games were a guarantee to go 1-3 and we wouldn't compete and how GB, DEN, and NE were all Superbowl caliber teams, and we embarrassed GB. Wrong time to ask about his job security IMO.

Flipping sides here HARD. Weren't you on the Marrone train two days ago?

Don't confuse a guard with a tackle - Doug Marrone.

Maybe I should have been more clear. The main difference between ego/arrogance is that the winners have big ego's but they deserve it because they're successful, meanwhile the losers are arrogant because they failed. It's sort of a chicken/egg scenario. What came first, the success or the ego?

To be fair, all great sports figures are arrogant. Maybe not blindly arrogant, but they're close. It's why most figures flame out spectacularly because their arrogance doesn't coincide with success.

It worked with Carrol. And Bill Belichick.

Timmy isn't the Gospel.

Or perhaps the acting owner would like to know that the QB retired.

Can you point me to another coach doing things differently?